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"Jer" wrote: Dwight has already been brainwashed into believing the government is here to save his silly ass. Most of us know better. And you believe what, Jer? That the government is here to harm you? That a government elected by the people should be disbanded because it prevents you from doing whatever you want? Or do you just prefer a government ran by Jer's rules alone? Stewart |
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"Steve" wrote: (snip) Nobody expects you to know the intricacies of alcohol laws in different jurisdictions. They're probably complicated enough in your own state and county. That you didn't even know that there are dry counties anywhere is the issue. If you were unaware of something about our most widely abused drug that is so widely known, why should your unsubstantiated claims about other drugs be accepted? I don't know the specific drug laws in every town, county, or state either, nor would I likely waste time researching that since it is essentually a local issue. After all, that is not really germane to the issue being discussed here - the general question of whether illegal drugs should be illegal. Stewart |
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"Steve" wrote: (snip) If you ever got a blow job in some of the places where it's illegal you're a criminal and possibly a felon. Even though your crime had no victims you could be doing long, hard time in prison. (snip) Oh, come on, Steve. Can you name a single person in this country doing "hard time in prison" solely due to an blow job? If not, lets stick to reality. (snip) Do you see the line that reads "arrests ruin lives and are a disappointment to families"? Wasn't that similarity the entire point of the exchange? That an arrest causes harm to the person arrested and his family, regardless of the crime the arrest is for? Except for asking if we thought robbery should be legalized because the arrest has a negative impact on the robber. (snip) Perhaps you need to be reminded of the actual exchange at this point. You claimed drug arrests are "ruining a lot of people and their families." I responded by pointing out that "arresting a bank robber ruins his life and is a disappointment to his family, but would you truly argue for legalization of bank robbery on those grounds?" There was no comparison there between drug use and bank robbery, and no comment about the "similarity of the punishment for two crimes." Instead, the only thing mentioned was the similarity of both arrests ruining lives and disappointing families. If you still cannot understand that, further explination is useless. Stewart |
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wrote: (snip) As someone else pointed out, the measurement is fallacious because I would be able to perform many tasks after five joints which would be difficult for the dead guy who downed 35 "glasses" of alcohol. The pamphlet didn't say anything about 35 glasses of alcohol, only the rough comparison to six or seven glasses. I used that to extrapolate the greater estimate for those consuming larger quantities of marijuana. Stewart |
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"Mxsmanic" wrote: Dwight Stewart writes: Why would you consider the National Institute on Drug Abuse, managed by Democrats under President Clinton and now by Republicans under President Bush, with the same conclusions under both parties, to be anything other than an independent site? The name alone seems to reveal a certain bias. Why? The agency exists to address the specific issue of drug abuse. Drug _use_ is addressed by the FDA. Stewart |
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:25:51 GMT, "Dwight Stewart"
wrote: wrote: How goddamn dare you accuse me in a public forum of being a drug user, you arrogant jerkoff? I am completely in favor of legalization, but have never in my entire life used any illegal drugs. I think you protest just a little too much. TS. You're also very quick to assume the title of drug user when nothing was said to pin that directly on you. As I said earlier, most people in this country seldom discuss drugs. What planet is your country on? You cqn hardly turn on the TV or go to the local supermarket without hearing the discussion. Of those who do, most don't see legalization as an option worthy of consideration. In your tiny town maybe. Come on out to the west coast and hear reality. Therefore, when one sees someone fanatically Your simple-minded characterization. arguing in favor of legalization, not just discussing it in passing, it is certainly reasonable to wonder if that person has personal motivations for doing so - motivations beyond just politics or taxes. Like hell it's reasonable. Unless you're the kind of narrow-minded jerk (which you have shown yourself to be) who has to mpute criminal motives to those who don't agree with his pontifical generalizations, gleaned from governmeb=nt pamphlets. Stewart |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:13 GMT, "Dwight Stewart"
wrote: "Jer" wrote: Dwight has already been brainwashed into believing the government is here to save his silly ass. Most of us know better. And you believe what, Jer? That the government is here to harm you? That a government elected by the people should be disbanded because it prevents you from doing whatever you want? Or do you just prefer a government ran by Jer's rules alone? What kind of pisass logic teacher taught you that anything not A must therefore be Z? We have lots of other choices of letters. Stewart |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:46:30 GMT, "Dwight Stewart"
wrote: "Steve" wrote: (snip) Nobody expects you to know the intricacies of alcohol laws in different jurisdictions. They're probably complicated enough in your own state and county. That you didn't even know that there are dry counties anywhere is the issue. If you were unaware of something about our most widely abused drug that is so widely known, why should your unsubstantiated claims about other drugs be accepted? I don't know the specific drug laws in every town, county, or state either, nor would I likely waste time researching that since it is essentually a local issue. After all, that is not really germane to the issue being discussed here - the general question of whether illegal drugs should be illegal. Don't you get dizzy living out there in the Land of Circular Arguments. Stewart |
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:42:50 GMT, "Dwight Stewart"
wrote: "Steve" wrote: Dwight Stewart wrote: Do you really equate oral sex and illegal drug use? Of course I do. I'm sure you do. However, since most people see those as two entirely different things, I doubt it is true for most reading your comments. (snip) You offered an argument based on the similarity of the punishment for two crimes, and then used it to make yet another bizarre leapt indicating your inability to see how different the crimes themselves are. (snip) Now you're trying to twist my words. Beyond the context given (arrests ruin lives and are a disappointment to families), I said nothing about "the similarity of the punishment for two crimes." Therefore, I didn't use that to make a leap to anything. (snip) You've taken many opportunities to make leaps of ignorance by going beyond the scope of any given analogy and coming up with bizarre extrapolations. In this case (snip) The only bizarre extrapolations here seem to be coming from your own mind, not anything else. Have you not noticed that you seem to be the only person here coming to these strange conclusions about the things I've said. Most others, even those who disagree with my views, seem to have no problem comprehending exactly what I'm saying. Bullcrap -- most of wht you write is barely above the level of gibberish. In reality, I suspect you also understand very well what I'm saying, but just don't like what is said. Stewart |
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