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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 02:33:09 GMT, A Concerned Contributer
wrote: He won't answer you he put you in his killfile along long time ago. Perhaps you belong there. Perhaps ? You are truly a kind person ! Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email |
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 02:37:15 GMT, Gregory Blank
wrote: Personally I like Rodinal, its great for film testing because it like Mike Scarpitti is so predictable. I am sure if he tried it using 1+100 dilution with say 120 or 4x5 film his mind would change....and that could be a good thing. A change of mind that is ;-) Ya know, I still like Rodinal even though the similarities with Scarpitti are so uncanny. == Rodinal is a grainy developer. Scarpitti is very abrasive. == Rodinal sacrifices about 1/2 stop of film speed. Scarpitti is not very swift either. == Rodinal diluted 1:100 causes adjacency in the developed image. Scarpitti always makes a mountain out of a molehill. == One thing they don't have in common : character. Rodinal is to Scarpitti as Jack Daniels is to Budweiser. One might say that Scapitti simply doesn't know Jack. ;)) Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email |
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 02:37:15 GMT, Gregory Blank
wrote: Personally I like Rodinal, its great for film testing because it like Mike Scarpitti is so predictable. I am sure if he tried it using 1+100 dilution with say 120 or 4x5 film his mind would change....and that could be a good thing. A change of mind that is ;-) Ya know, I still like Rodinal even though the similarities with Scarpitti are so uncanny. == Rodinal is a grainy developer. Scarpitti is very abrasive. == Rodinal sacrifices about 1/2 stop of film speed. Scarpitti is not very swift either. == Rodinal diluted 1:100 causes adjacency in the developed image. Scarpitti always makes a mountain out of a molehill. == One thing they don't have in common : character. Rodinal is to Scarpitti as Jack Daniels is to Budweiser. One might say that Scapitti simply doesn't know Jack. ;)) Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email |
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 02:33:09 GMT, A Concerned Contributer
wrote: He won't answer you he put you in his killfile along long time ago. Perhaps you belong there. In article , (Michael Scarpitti) wrote: John wrote in message . .. On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:22:44 +0000 (UTC), Leigh Marrin/KM6JE wrote: Sigh... Scarpitti is SO predictable... That's one word. Try pathetic as well. Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email You don't know me, or my work. Shut up and let me answer the man's question! This last complaint by the nameless one is exactly what he was accused of in response to his first reply to the OP. A Concerned Contributer wrote: Why don't you shut up and let them ask the question. The Massive development chart says rated at 200 ISO the time for 1+100 is 15 minutes 68F....it beats the hell out of listening to your whining. http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.html In article , (Michael Scarpitti) wrote: I cannot recommend Rodinal and most fast films. Paterson Acutol is MUCH better, and I use it on Neopan 400 all the time. Dilute 1+14, develop for 8 minutes @ 20C/68F. Forget Rodinal. It is an old, old product. Not recommended for modern films at all. It continues. Robert Vervoordt, MFA |
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 02:30:55 GMT, Udie Lafing
wrote: In article , (Michael Scarpitti) wrote: Rodinal has a rather high alkalinity and therefore causes considerable graininess. Its developing agent is not particulary efficient either, which means there is some speed loss compared to other products. This is just wrong. When diluted to working strength, Rodinal's alkalinity is not really so high. Someone have a meter? Rodinal's graininess is primarily a result of using a dilute developer with few salts in solution, a low buffered alkali and no chemicals that modify the developer's action. Try Rodinal at 1:100 , :200, etc. along with some Sodium Sulfite . Anything from 30 grams, and up, per liter of working solution will do. That alone will reduce the appearance of grain, speed development and give an increase in film speed. Reuse it once, immediately, and the grain gets reduced more.. But, the nameless one never knew that. His ignorance in some areas is profound, despite his expressions of some sort of dogma as omniscience. Acutol and Neopan 400 are just fabulous together! So some say about Sigfried and Roy but that doesn't mean I want spend the night in my car with them. What's that expression? "Go get 'em, Tiger?" ;-/ Robert Vervoordt, MFA |
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 02:30:55 GMT, Udie Lafing
wrote: In article , (Michael Scarpitti) wrote: Rodinal has a rather high alkalinity and therefore causes considerable graininess. Its developing agent is not particulary efficient either, which means there is some speed loss compared to other products. This is just wrong. When diluted to working strength, Rodinal's alkalinity is not really so high. Someone have a meter? Rodinal's graininess is primarily a result of using a dilute developer with few salts in solution, a low buffered alkali and no chemicals that modify the developer's action. Try Rodinal at 1:100 , :200, etc. along with some Sodium Sulfite . Anything from 30 grams, and up, per liter of working solution will do. That alone will reduce the appearance of grain, speed development and give an increase in film speed. Reuse it once, immediately, and the grain gets reduced more.. But, the nameless one never knew that. His ignorance in some areas is profound, despite his expressions of some sort of dogma as omniscience. Acutol and Neopan 400 are just fabulous together! So some say about Sigfried and Roy but that doesn't mean I want spend the night in my car with them. What's that expression? "Go get 'em, Tiger?" ;-/ Robert Vervoordt, MFA |
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 01:24:16 -0500, John
wrote: On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 02:37:15 GMT, Gregory Blank wrote: Personally I like Rodinal, its great for film testing because it like Mike Scarpitti is so predictable. I am sure if he tried it using 1+100 dilution with say 120 or 4x5 film his mind would change....and that could be a good thing. A change of mind that is ;-) Ya know, I still like Rodinal even though the similarities with Scarpitti are so uncanny. == Rodinal is a grainy developer. Scarpitti is very abrasive. == Rodinal sacrifices about 1/2 stop of film speed. Scarpitti is not very swift either. == Rodinal diluted 1:100 causes adjacency in the developed image. Scarpitti always makes a mountain out of a molehill. == One thing they don't have in common : character. Rodinal is to Scarpitti as Jack Daniels is to Budweiser. One might say that Scapitti simply doesn't know Jack. ;)) Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email Hmm, so are you suggesting that both would be improved by further dilution? I could well enjoy less of the nameless one around here. Maybe just getting them to consume more Sulfite will smooth the edges. Naah. The nameless one is exactly like Rodinal, so, in his own description, is useless for modern film. Don't listen to him, Newbies! Robert Vervoordt, MFA |
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 01:24:16 -0500, John
wrote: On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 02:37:15 GMT, Gregory Blank wrote: Personally I like Rodinal, its great for film testing because it like Mike Scarpitti is so predictable. I am sure if he tried it using 1+100 dilution with say 120 or 4x5 film his mind would change....and that could be a good thing. A change of mind that is ;-) Ya know, I still like Rodinal even though the similarities with Scarpitti are so uncanny. == Rodinal is a grainy developer. Scarpitti is very abrasive. == Rodinal sacrifices about 1/2 stop of film speed. Scarpitti is not very swift either. == Rodinal diluted 1:100 causes adjacency in the developed image. Scarpitti always makes a mountain out of a molehill. == One thing they don't have in common : character. Rodinal is to Scarpitti as Jack Daniels is to Budweiser. One might say that Scapitti simply doesn't know Jack. ;)) Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email Hmm, so are you suggesting that both would be improved by further dilution? I could well enjoy less of the nameless one around here. Maybe just getting them to consume more Sulfite will smooth the edges. Naah. The nameless one is exactly like Rodinal, so, in his own description, is useless for modern film. Don't listen to him, Newbies! Robert Vervoordt, MFA |
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I am gonna print this and put it on my wall.
In article , John wrote: On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 02:37:15 GMT, Gregory Blank wrote: Personally I like Rodinal, its great for film testing because it like Mike Scarpitti is so predictable. I am sure if he tried it using 1+100 dilution with say 120 or 4x5 film his mind would change....and that could be a good thing. A change of mind that is ;-) Ya know, I still like Rodinal even though the similarities with Scarpitti are so uncanny. == Rodinal is a grainy developer. Scarpitti is very abrasive. == Rodinal sacrifices about 1/2 stop of film speed. Scarpitti is not very swift either. == Rodinal diluted 1:100 causes adjacency in the developed image. Scarpitti always makes a mountain out of a molehill. == One thing they don't have in common : character. Rodinal is to Scarpitti as Jack Daniels is to Budweiser. One might say that Scapitti simply doesn't know Jack. ;)) Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email -- LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 |
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