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Neopan400 in Rodinal 1:100?
Hi,
Has anyone tried this combination? I'm looking for nice tonality, don't care much about the grain. Ifordpan400 was very nice in R09 1:100, I hope Neopan will be better;-) Blazej |
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"Kokon" wrote in message ...
Hi, Has anyone tried this combination? I'm looking for nice tonality, don't care much about the grain. Ifordpan400 was very nice in R09 1:100, I hope Neopan will be better;-) Blazej I cannot recommend Rodinal and most fast films. Paterson Acutol is MUCH better, and I use it on Neopan 400 all the time. Dilute 1+14, develop for 8 minutes @ 20C/68F. Forget Rodinal. It is an old, old product. Not recommended for modern films at all. |
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Why don't you shut up and let them ask the question.
The Massive development chart says rated at 200 ISO the time for 1+100 is 15 minutes 68F....it beats the hell out of listening to your whining. http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.html In article , (Michael Scarpitti) wrote: I cannot recommend Rodinal and most fast films. Paterson Acutol is MUCH better, and I use it on Neopan 400 all the time. Dilute 1+14, develop for 8 minutes @ 20C/68F. Forget Rodinal. It is an old, old product. Not recommended for modern films at all. |
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A Concerned Contributer wrote: Why don't you shut up and let them ask the question. The Massive development chart says rated at 200 ISO the time for 1+100 is 15 minutes 68F....it beats the hell out of listening to your whining. http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.html Thx, I know the times, I'm rather interested in users' impressions:-) From my experiences, Ilfordpan400 developed in R09 has comparable grain size to Neopan400 in Microphen 1:1, but the tones and grain pattern are much better. It is also sharper. I also liked TMY in D-23, but now I have some Neopans to shoot;-) In article , (Michael Scarpitti) wrote: I cannot recommend Rodinal and most fast films. Paterson Acutol is MUCH better, and I use it on Neopan 400 all the time. Dilute 1+14, develop for 8 minutes @ 20C/68F. Forget Rodinal. It is an old, old product. Not recommended for modern films at all. Yeah, I know;-) Blazej |
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Michael Scarpitti wrote:
Forget Rodinal. It is an old, old product. Not recommended for modern films at all. Sigh... Scarpitti is SO predictable... Following is a reprint of a recent posting of mine: Date: 2004-08-18 06:26:28 PST "The local Kamera Klub Koffee Klatch does not like Rodinal; they place great importance on fine grain and extreme sharpness. The member who makes tack sharp 20x24" prints from 35mm is held in high esteem; another member who makes 16x20" prints from Minox negs is regarded as a demi-god. Like Mike Scarpitti, members of the Kamera Klub Koffee Klatch almost never use the word "TONALITY". Sorry, but I can't help you with your request; I've never used Neopan. FWIW, following is my one of my favorite camera/film/developer combos: I use my ancient Ansco 120 folder with an uncoated three-element f8 lens, Kodak Tri-X 400 and Rodinal 1:50, developed for Agfa's suggested time. I rate the film at EI 200. Printed full-frame on 8x10" paper, Mike Scarpitti & the other lifetime Photo I students and the local Kamera Klub Koffee Klatch will point out the strong grain pattern, but what they don't have the sensitivity to appreciate are THE TONES; the soft, uncoated crude lens also enhances the effect. But if you're a blundering pedantic fool who actually makes statements like: "A PRESANTATION PRINT MUST BE 11X14" OR LARGER", you will never appreciate the results from the Ansco Folder/Tri-X/Rodinal combo. |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:22:44 +0000 (UTC), Leigh Marrin/KM6JE
wrote: Sigh... Scarpitti is SO predictable... That's one word. Try pathetic as well. Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:22:44 +0000 (UTC), Leigh Marrin/KM6JE
wrote: Sigh... Scarpitti is SO predictable... That's one word. Try pathetic as well. Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email |
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Michael Scarpitti wrote:
: "Kokon" wrote in message ... : Hi, : Has anyone tried this combination? I'm looking for nice tonality, don't care : much about the grain. : Ifordpan400 was very nice in R09 1:100, I hope Neopan will be better;-) : : Blazej : I cannot recommend Rodinal and most fast films. Paterson Acutol is : MUCH better, and I use it on Neopan 400 all the time. Dilute 1+14, : develop for 8 minutes @ 20C/68F. : Forget Rodinal. It is an old, old product. Not recommended for modern : films at all. The only one that I know of that reccomends against using Rodinal is you. -- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you ------------------- |
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Michael Scarpitti wrote:
: "Kokon" wrote in message ... : Hi, : Has anyone tried this combination? I'm looking for nice tonality, don't care : much about the grain. : Ifordpan400 was very nice in R09 1:100, I hope Neopan will be better;-) : : Blazej : I cannot recommend Rodinal and most fast films. Paterson Acutol is : MUCH better, and I use it on Neopan 400 all the time. Dilute 1+14, : develop for 8 minutes @ 20C/68F. : Forget Rodinal. It is an old, old product. Not recommended for modern : films at all. The only one that I know of that reccomends against using Rodinal is you. -- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you ------------------- |
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"Kokon" wrote in message ...
A Concerned Contributer wrote: Why don't you shut up and let them ask the question. The Massive development chart says rated at 200 ISO the time for 1+100 is 15 minutes 68F....it beats the hell out of listening to your whining. http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.html Thx, I know the times, I'm rather interested in users' impressions:-) From my experiences, Ilfordpan400 developed in R09 has comparable grain size to Neopan400 in Microphen 1:1, but the tones and grain pattern are much better. It is also sharper. I also liked TMY in D-23, but now I have some Neopans to shoot;-) In article , (Michael Scarpitti) wrote: I cannot recommend Rodinal and most fast films. Paterson Acutol is MUCH better, and I use it on Neopan 400 all the time. Dilute 1+14, develop for 8 minutes @ 20C/68F. Forget Rodinal. It is an old, old product. Not recommended for modern films at all. Yeah, I know;-) Blazej Rodinal has a rather high alkalinity and therefore causes considerable graininess. Its developing agent is not particulary efficient either, which means there is some speed loss compared to other products. Acutol and Neopan 400 are just fabulous together! |
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