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Old October 23rd 04, 09:46 PM
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jjs wrote:

"Tom Phillips" wrote in message
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When I photograph for a client, I give them what they want.
Otherwise I don't get paid...


Another example of your inability to think across disciplines. Too simple.
End of conversation.



Clearly you're offended on a personal level re wilhelm.

The fact is he _consults_ for the digital materials indistry
and his opinions are nescessarily influenced by that.

As Sgt. Friday used to say, just the facts, ma'am.
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Old October 23rd 04, 09:56 PM
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Gregory W Blank wrote:

In article ,
Tom Phillips wrote:

It makes good points however I doubt that most homes lighting approaches
120 Lux on all walls,.....thats very bright. I have a 2' flourescent light mounted 4' above my
enlarger area it emits 29 Lux at the base board.


But with florescent lights comes increased UV which is bad if used for
print lighting.


Its not, I don't hang work in my darkroom. Nor do I display
prints under florescent light of any type.


I wasn't suggesting you did.
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Old October 24th 04, 10:06 AM
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"jjs" wrote in message ...
"John" wrote in message
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:06:09 -0500, "jjs" wrote:


Well, that's an inscrutible assertion. Mind telling me what you mean?


Too many professionals have questioned the methods used by
Wilhelm and Co. . I don't feel that his info is reliable. Does that
sound like Bush ? It should.


Well, look at it this way - it's a natural thing to disagree and in this
case there are not many people with the high level of expertise neccessary
to evaluate Wilhelm's research, and of course we have to be skeptical of the
vendors and manufacturer's who protest his evaluations. I think he has made
some corrections to one or two studies, but I'm fairly sure they followed
the usual scientific rationals which are always neccessary. It's an honest
thing to do in science. OTOH, I am not qualified to adequately critique
Henry Wilhelm's work, and I'll bet no one else here is either.

And finally, I've talked to Henry and several of his friends and colleagues,
used his early archival washer shortly after it was commercialized, my mate
went to college with him and he was my neighbor so very long ago, so I may
be prejudiced in ways that I do not even know. (He wouldn't know me from
Adam. I keep a very low profile.)


Fascist illogical cowards usually do:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...nt ry.western

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...n%26start%3D25
  #544  
Old October 24th 04, 10:06 AM
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"jjs" wrote in message ...
"John" wrote in message
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:06:09 -0500, "jjs" wrote:


Well, that's an inscrutible assertion. Mind telling me what you mean?


Too many professionals have questioned the methods used by
Wilhelm and Co. . I don't feel that his info is reliable. Does that
sound like Bush ? It should.


Well, look at it this way - it's a natural thing to disagree and in this
case there are not many people with the high level of expertise neccessary
to evaluate Wilhelm's research, and of course we have to be skeptical of the
vendors and manufacturer's who protest his evaluations. I think he has made
some corrections to one or two studies, but I'm fairly sure they followed
the usual scientific rationals which are always neccessary. It's an honest
thing to do in science. OTOH, I am not qualified to adequately critique
Henry Wilhelm's work, and I'll bet no one else here is either.

And finally, I've talked to Henry and several of his friends and colleagues,
used his early archival washer shortly after it was commercialized, my mate
went to college with him and he was my neighbor so very long ago, so I may
be prejudiced in ways that I do not even know. (He wouldn't know me from
Adam. I keep a very low profile.)


Fascist illogical cowards usually do:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...nt ry.western

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...n%26start%3D25
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Old October 24th 04, 09:25 PM
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jjs wrote:

"K D B" wrote in message
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Fascist illogical cowards [...]


I see I forgot to killfile you here, too. KDB is another NoLife predator.
Say Bye KDB.



Wilhelm is an illegal alien? ;-)
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Old October 24th 04, 09:25 PM
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jjs wrote:

"K D B" wrote in message
m...

Fascist illogical cowards [...]


I see I forgot to killfile you here, too. KDB is another NoLife predator.
Say Bye KDB.



Wilhelm is an illegal alien? ;-)
 




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