Nikon D300s Raw File

Rick wrote:
Why do we need a new Adobe Camera Raw if this is the same sensor as
the D300. Does every model require there own - even if they are the
same sensor.

Thanks, Rick


It's not the same as the D300. It is the same as the D5000, and improved
over the D300. It may also have slightly different AA filter parameters
to the D5000 and therefore need a minor tweak to ACR, though often
enough it's just a camera identity change.

David

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David Kilpatrick wrote:
Rick wrote:
Why do we need a new Adobe Camera Raw if this is the same sensor as
the D300. Does every model require there own - even if they are the
same sensor.

Thanks, Rick


It's not the same as the D300. It is the same as the D5000, and improved
over the D300. It may also have slightly different AA filter parameters
to the D5000 and therefore need a minor tweak to ACR, though often
enough it's just a camera identity change.

Is it the same as the D5000? DXO rates that below the d90, mainly
higher s/n ratio and lower dr at higher ISO.

David Kilpatrick wrote:
Rick wrote:
Why do we need a new Adobe Camera Raw if this is the same sensor as
the D300. Does every model require there own - even if they are the
same sensor.

It's not the same as the D300. It is the same as the D5000, and improved
over the D300. It may also have slightly different AA filter parameters
to the D5000 and therefore need a minor tweak to ACR, though often
enough it's just a camera identity change.

Even if it was the same sensor there's no way for ACR to know that
it's the same sensor. Cameras record in the RAW file a camera
identifier and not a sensor identifier.

--
Ray Fischer

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David Kilpatrick wrote:
Rick wrote:
Why do we need a new Adobe Camera Raw if this is the same sensor as
the D300. Does every model require there own - even if they are the
same sensor.

It's not the same as the D300. It is the same as the D5000, and improved
over the D300. It may also have slightly different AA filter parameters
to the D5000 and therefore need a minor tweak to ACR, though often
enough it's just a camera identity change.

Even if it was the same sensor there's no way for ACR to know that
it's the same sensor. Cameras record in the RAW file a camera
identifier and not a sensor identifier.

--
Ray Fischer



Slightly OT but Pentax's K7 uses the same raw files as the K20. I was
dreading having to wait for ACR to catch up but it opened the K7 file
without protest.

Steve

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David Kilpatrick wrote:
Rick wrote:
Why do we need a new Adobe Camera Raw if this is the same sensor as
the D300. Does every model require there own - even if they are the
same sensor.

It's not the same as the D300. It is the same as the D5000, and improved
over the D300. It may also have slightly different AA filter parameters
to the D5000 and therefore need a minor tweak to ACR, though often
enough it's just a camera identity change.

Even if it was the same sensor there's no way for ACR to know that
it's the same sensor. Cameras record in the RAW file a camera
identifier and not a sensor identifier.

--
Ray Fischer



Slightly OT but Pentax's K7 uses the same raw files as the K20. I was
dreading having to wait for ACR to catch up but it opened the K7 file
without protest.

Steve

Actually they are different, CS4 will only open the K-7 files if you have
the updated RAW, you will find that ACR was updated vary early to do K-7
files. CS3 will open K20D files but not K-7 files. I had to go to LightRoom
2.4 to get support for K-7 files.

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David Kilpatrick wrote:
Rick wrote:
Why do we need a new Adobe Camera Raw if this is the same sensor as
the D300. Does every model require there own - even if they are the
same sensor.

It's not the same as the D300. It is the same as the D5000, and improved
over the D300. It may also have slightly different AA filter parameters
to the D5000 and therefore need a minor tweak to ACR, though often
enough it's just a camera identity change.

Even if it was the same sensor there's no way for ACR to know that
it's the same sensor. Cameras record in the RAW file a camera
identifier and not a sensor identifier.

--
Ray Fischer



Slightly OT but Pentax's K7 uses the same raw files as the K20. I was
dreading having to wait for ACR to catch up but it opened the K7 file
without protest.

Steve

Actually they are different, CS4 will only open the K-7 files if you have
the updated RAW, you will find that ACR was updated vary early to do K-7
files. CS3 will open K20D files but not K-7 files. I had to go to
LightRoom 2.4 to get support for K-7 files.


Thanks Pete. When ACR opened my K7 files I just guessed they were the same
as the K20 because previously I had had to wait.

Steve

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David Kilpatrick wrote:
Rick wrote:
Why do we need a new Adobe Camera Raw if this is the same sensor as
the D300. Does every model require there own - even if they are the
same sensor.

It's not the same as the D300. It is the same as the D5000, and
improved
over the D300. It may also have slightly different AA filter parameters
to the D5000 and therefore need a minor tweak to ACR, though often
enough it's just a camera identity change.

Even if it was the same sensor there's no way for ACR to know that
it's the same sensor. Cameras record in the RAW file a camera
identifier and not a sensor identifier.

--
Ray Fischer



Slightly OT but Pentax's K7 uses the same raw files as the K20. I was
dreading having to wait for ACR to catch up but it opened the K7 file
without protest.

Steve

Actually they are different, CS4 will only open the K-7 files if you have
the updated RAW, you will find that ACR was updated vary early to do K-7
files. CS3 will open K20D files but not K-7 files. I had to go to
LightRoom 2.4 to get support for K-7 files.


Thanks Pete. When ACR opened my K7 files I just guessed they were the
same as the K20 because previously I had had to wait.

Steve

I had a long wait with my K10D as well, luckily I was able to just shoot DNG
because Pentax had just included it as an option. I am shooting with DNG at
the moment because I want native support in CS3 rather than having to
convert first.


Cheers.

Pete