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  #101  
Old April 5th 05, 12:13 PM
rafe bustin
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:53:51 GMT, Gregory Blank
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So your idea is to use the CIS bars, in a 3 set to obtain
a RGB image,....wouldn't that be a rather large piece
of hardware to carry?



No, CIS would work for monochrome capture
only, I don't see any easy way to adapt it
for RGB capture in a camera.


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  #102  
Old April 5th 05, 12:13 PM
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:53:51 GMT, Gregory Blank
wrote:


So your idea is to use the CIS bars, in a 3 set to obtain
a RGB image,....wouldn't that be a rather large piece
of hardware to carry?



No, CIS would work for monochrome capture
only, I don't see any easy way to adapt it
for RGB capture in a camera.


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Old April 5th 05, 01:27 PM
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In article ,
rafe bustin wrote:

No, CIS would work for monochrome capture
only, I don't see any easy way to adapt it
for RGB capture in a camera.


Given the quality of LF B&W films and silver prints
I don't see that being of much interest or use, to me.

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  #104  
Old April 5th 05, 01:27 PM
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In article ,
rafe bustin wrote:

No, CIS would work for monochrome capture
only, I don't see any easy way to adapt it
for RGB capture in a camera.


Given the quality of LF B&W films and silver prints
I don't see that being of much interest or use, to me.

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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918
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Old April 5th 05, 03:09 PM
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"rafe bustin" wrote in message
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On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:46:16 -0500, "jjs" wrote:


And you know it's been done. The optics regarding the aerial image and the
length of exposure remain issues.



Please define "aerial image."


Rafe, I am refering to capturing an image using a very small lens at the
plane of focus. It seems appropriate with scanning technology which makes
discrete steps across the plane.

I am saying that
either a CCD or CIS sensor could be waved across
the film plane and capture the image that was
on the ground glass.


I think we are talking about the same thing.


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Old April 5th 05, 03:09 PM
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"rafe bustin" wrote in message
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On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:46:16 -0500, "jjs" wrote:


And you know it's been done. The optics regarding the aerial image and the
length of exposure remain issues.



Please define "aerial image."


Rafe, I am refering to capturing an image using a very small lens at the
plane of focus. It seems appropriate with scanning technology which makes
discrete steps across the plane.

I am saying that
either a CCD or CIS sensor could be waved across
the film plane and capture the image that was
on the ground glass.


I think we are talking about the same thing.


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Old April 6th 05, 03:04 AM
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Gregory Blank wrote:
In article ,
Frank Pittel wrote:

jjs wrote:

: "Sander Vesik" wrote in message
: ...

: Well, realistcly, so will be estimating it based on film sales - after
: all,
: you don't know the relative numbers of people shooting 5 sheets per year
: vs 5 sheets per month or more. Never mind film distributed to channel but
: not sold, spoilage etc.

: Good point. So we should try to find out how many 4x5" films have been
: processed. If we focus upon color then we might have a good idea. No?

Not really. A lot of LF photographers don't shoot color film.


Not only that, but the ones that do, shoot a lot more than others. You
also have students that use LF cameras supplied from schools, are having
film processed.


IIRC all jobo processors support 4x5, and the ATL series automatic ones
have prices that are comparable to many new LF cameras, esp from Linhof.
It also gives you fast medium format and 35mm chromes.

Of course a new toyo + processor + a couple of lens + loader + a mountain
of film + chemicals costs less than a 1ds mark2 body alone, but thats
off-topic.

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  #108  
Old April 6th 05, 03:04 AM
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Gregory Blank wrote:
In article ,
Frank Pittel wrote:

jjs wrote:

: "Sander Vesik" wrote in message
: ...

: Well, realistcly, so will be estimating it based on film sales - after
: all,
: you don't know the relative numbers of people shooting 5 sheets per year
: vs 5 sheets per month or more. Never mind film distributed to channel but
: not sold, spoilage etc.

: Good point. So we should try to find out how many 4x5" films have been
: processed. If we focus upon color then we might have a good idea. No?

Not really. A lot of LF photographers don't shoot color film.


Not only that, but the ones that do, shoot a lot more than others. You
also have students that use LF cameras supplied from schools, are having
film processed.


IIRC all jobo processors support 4x5, and the ATL series automatic ones
have prices that are comparable to many new LF cameras, esp from Linhof.
It also gives you fast medium format and 35mm chromes.

Of course a new toyo + processor + a couple of lens + loader + a mountain
of film + chemicals costs less than a 1ds mark2 body alone, but thats
off-topic.

--
Sander

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  #109  
Old April 6th 05, 01:02 PM
Gregory Blank
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In article ,
Sander Vesik wrote:

IIRC all jobo processors support 4x5, and the ATL series automatic ones
have prices that are comparable to many new LF cameras, esp from Linhof.
It also gives you fast medium format and 35mm chromes.

Of course a new toyo + processor + a couple of lens + loader + a mountain
of film + chemicals costs less than a 1ds mark2 body alone, but thats
off-topic.


I can recommend Jobo processors to anybody I have been very happy
with mine.

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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918
  #110  
Old April 7th 05, 05:02 AM
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:13:05 -0500, rafe bustin wrote:

Some dream of the analog past, I dream of
the digital future.


Why do you have to drag digital imaging into every photography group ?


John - http://www.puresilver.org

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"Just as soon as humanity accepts a new definition of the term humanity." - John
 




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