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I need As much Help With Night Photography of Locomotives as I can get
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I need As much Help With Night Photography of Locomotives as I can get what is your problem? a little info would help.. color /b&w? moving or standing trains? close up or distant. b/w over expose and slightly underdevelope, you need to get more detail in the threashold areas, the blacks, over exposing will get build up exposure, under developing will keep the highlights from burning out, see any zone system book. color, shoot at late twilight so there is a bit of fill. for a cool effect, lock down your tripod (you are using one right) and shoot one at twilight one stop under, shoot again at full dark with all the lights on. |
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I need As much Help With Night Photography of Locomotives as I can get Hi Try he http://www.trainweb.org http://www.trainweb.org/members/dire...otography.html -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards / Gruß Lars e-mail: Remove the obvious. Besuchen Sie meine Foto-links / Visit my Photo-links / Besøg min Foto-links: http://www.fotolinks.dk or http://www.photolinks.dk |
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"Timothy" wrote in message om... I need As much Help With Night Photography of Locomotives as I can get 1. Don't Set Up Tripod Shots Directly In Front Of Them When They're Moving Along The Tracks. |
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zeitgeist wrote: color, shoot at late twilight so there is a bit of fill. for a cool effect, lock down your tripod (you are using one right) and shoot one at twilight one stop under, shoot again at full dark with all the lights on. I have seen you describe this technique a few times now, but I (as a newbee) can't help thinking - won't that give an overexposed picture? I know that the right answer would be that I should go out an experiment, and I might also do exacly that, but I would like to hear if I did get it right! So you say at twilight a picture one stop under - how do I deside what is would be the correct exposure? At twilight I can't meter anything .. or can I? Then I wait until it's totally dark (and in this case when the train comes) take another one on top of the previous picture. How do I determine the exposure I need here? The same as last? Martin |
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"Martin Djernæs" wrote in message news:78iib.546551$Oz4.468454@rwcrnsc54... Hi, zeitgeist wrote: color, shoot at late twilight so there is a bit of fill. for a cool effect, lock down your tripod (you are using one right) and shoot one at twilight one stop under, shoot again at full dark with all the lights on. I have seen you describe this technique a few times now, but I (as a newbee) can't help thinking - won't that give an overexposed picture? I know that the right answer would be that I should go out an experiment, and I might also do exacly that, but I would like to hear if I did get it right! So you say at twilight a picture one stop under - how do I deside what is would be the correct exposure? At twilight I can't meter anything .. or can I? Then I wait until it's totally dark (and in this case when the train comes) take another one on top of the previous picture. How do I determine the exposure I need here? The same as last? Your bigger concern is underexposure, with long exposures you start to get a bit of reciprocity failure, the longer you expose the longer you need to expose cause the film gets slower. overexposure will give you too much detail, give you a twilight effect that just seems muddy. A little overexposure you can print down, one reason you want to give the night scene a bit of twilight exposure is to prevent too much underexposure. Here's a few lights, here's a bit of black area, with a base expo, you still have lights, but the blank areas have a bit of shape and definition, (of course if you lab thinks its day light expo, or the guy tries to help you, geez this pic is underexposed better lighting it up some...) One stop under will just drop the tones in value, remember a meter assumes a medium gray. so one stop under will give you a range of detail but slightly muted. doing a twilight shot can put you in the area where reciprocity failure can start, but that's OK, if your background exposure is 1.2 or even 1.5 stops under it shouldn't matter that much. You want to get a threshold exposure on the neg, that will make the image much better and easier to print, there will be some detail available. If you want to do better, get specific amounts of detail, well then you need experience, and what the pros do is bracket, which is hard with a roll film camera, but the ones I've seen do this will use 4x5's and sheet film, load the holder, shoot, take notes. wait a couple hours. exposure for the lights, you can get guestimations from guides, sometimes the film box gives a hint, but generally its an artistic choice, (or happy surprise when you get the film back) You can go for warm glow or bright wash out with the length of exposure. Its a matter of your taste, you can always try again, eventually you will hit on a combo that works for you. I haven't done it in years and can't remember what the heck times I used. Oh, and two shots that are one stop under will give you one fully exposed neg. |
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Hi,
zeitgeist wrote: I have seen you describe this technique a few times now, but I (as a newbee) can't help thinking - won't that give an overexposed picture? One stop under will just drop the tones in value, remember a meter assumes a medium gray. so one stop under will give you a range of detail but slightly muted. doing a twilight shot can put you in the area where reciprocity Now I get it (I hope) - at twilight I meeter the scene and take the first shot one below. Now I wait and take the second shot at the same exposure setting. I think I was expecting that the meetering should be redone! ........................ but generally its an artistic choice, (or happy surprise when you get the film back) So basically .. trail and error .. and try again :-) Thanks for the detailed explanation. Martin |
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"zeitgeist" wrote in message .net...
I need As much Help With Night Photography of Locomotives as I can get what is your problem? a little info would help.. color /b&w? moving or standing trains? close up or distant. b/w over expose and slightly underdevelope, you need to get more detail in the threashold areas, the blacks, over exposing will get build up exposure, under developing will keep the highlights from burning out, see any zone system book. color, shoot at late twilight so there is a bit of fill. for a cool effect, lock down your tripod (you are using one right) and shoot one at twilight one stop under, shoot again at full dark with all the lights on. OOP MY BAD I shoot color and then convert it to B&W The B&W's look good if the train is Not moving or moving at a speed under 10mph anf faster then that I wont shoot it i'm using a 2.0 mega pixel Camera which is able to take great night shots like this one at St. Louis |
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