Canon 20D: Full dpreview

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos20d/

Phil is becoming sloppy with many errors and omissions.

I couldn't find the low-light AF focus test.

Or shot to shot time using single shot in Raw after the purposely
restricted 6 shot buffer.

The centre focus cross type sensor does operate with aperture f5.6
as well as f2.8. At F2.8 the sensor uses different elements giving 3
times the accuracy.

No mention of lens used in today's samples gallery. I didn't bother to
explore the EXIF data.

Pity the shutter/mirror are so loud. It would have been an ideal camera
for use in available light work during live performances in theatre.

The response from Nikon will be fascinating. Trouble is a long time to
hang on for. Release at the PMA show but not available until later on year.

Nikon have promised 5 tiers of DSLR cameras. D70 entry level - just been
reduced to £780ish including the excellent !8-70mm lens (this lens would
be classed as an L class lens in Canon speak as it incorporates 3 ED
elements)

The D100/D200.

A New semi-pro camera.

Then the D1/D2 series.

Then what?

Deryck

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:11:58 GMT, deryck lant
wrote:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos20d/

Phil is becoming sloppy with many errors and omissions.

He also chose to ignore many reported problems with the camera, many
pros don't trust it and many others have had all sorts of problems
that Canon seems to be ignoring.

Maybe a new item should be added to the reviews called reliability or
significant problems reported.

Oh, well - I will hang on to my very reliable D60.

Lou

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:11:58 GMT, deryck lant
wrote:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos20d/

Phil is becoming sloppy with many errors and omissions.

He also chose to ignore many reported problems with the camera, many
pros don't trust it and many others have had all sorts of problems
that Canon seems to be ignoring.

Maybe a new item should be added to the reviews called reliability or
significant problems reported.

Oh, well - I will hang on to my very reliable D60.

Lou

The message
from deryck lant contains these words:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos20d/

Phil is becoming sloppy with many errors and omissions.

I couldn't find the low-light AF focus test.

Or shot to shot time using single shot in Raw after the purposely
restricted 6 shot buffer.

The centre focus cross type sensor does operate with aperture f5.6
as well as f2.8. At F2.8 the sensor uses different elements giving 3
times the accuracy.

No mention of lens used in today's samples gallery. I didn't bother to
explore the EXIF data.

The review has now been amended adding lens used for samples.

Pity the shutter/mirror are so loud. It would have been an ideal camera
for use in available light work during live performances in theatre.

The response from Nikon will be fascinating. Trouble is a long time to
hang on for. Release at the PMA show but not available until later on year.

Nikon have promised 5 tiers of DSLR cameras. D70 entry level - just been
reduced to £780ish including the excellent !8-70mm lens (this lens would
be classed as an L class lens in Canon speak as it incorporates 3 ED
elements)

The D100/D200.

A New semi-pro camera.

Then the D1/D2 series.

Then what?

Deryck

The message
from deryck lant contains these words:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos20d/

Phil is becoming sloppy with many errors and omissions.

I couldn't find the low-light AF focus test.

Or shot to shot time using single shot in Raw after the purposely
restricted 6 shot buffer.

The centre focus cross type sensor does operate with aperture f5.6
as well as f2.8. At F2.8 the sensor uses different elements giving 3
times the accuracy.

No mention of lens used in today's samples gallery. I didn't bother to
explore the EXIF data.

The review has now been amended adding lens used for samples.

Pity the shutter/mirror are so loud. It would have been an ideal camera
for use in available light work during live performances in theatre.

The response from Nikon will be fascinating. Trouble is a long time to
hang on for. Release at the PMA show but not available until later on year.

Nikon have promised 5 tiers of DSLR cameras. D70 entry level - just been
reduced to £780ish including the excellent !8-70mm lens (this lens would
be classed as an L class lens in Canon speak as it incorporates 3 ED
elements)

The D100/D200.

A New semi-pro camera.

Then the D1/D2 series.

Then what?

Deryck

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 18:36:52 GMT, Lou wrote:

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:11:58 GMT, deryck lant
wrote:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos20d/

Phil is becoming sloppy with many errors and omissions.

He also chose to ignore many reported problems with the camera, many
pros don't trust it and many others have had all sorts of problems
that Canon seems to be ignoring.

Maybe a new item should be added to the reviews called reliability or
significant problems reported.

Oh, well - I will hang on to my very reliable D60.

Lou

As he stated in his D30/D60/10D/20D forum, he did not experience any
of the problems, so he didn't report any of them. You can read all
about the problems in the forum if you need to.

Doug

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 00:24:02 GMT, The Naked Whiz
wrote:

As he stated in his D30/D60/10D/20D forum, he did not experience any
of the problems, so he didn't report any of them. You can read all
about the problems in the forum if you need to.

He must not read his own forums or any others. Canon may have sent
him a 20D that had been well checked out.

I would hope that any complete review would make mention of the
problems reported by the pros at least, they amount to more than a
smattering.

Lou

"Lou" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 00:24:02 GMT, The Naked Whiz
wrote:

As he stated in his D30/D60/10D/20D forum, he did not experience any
of the problems, so he didn't report any of them. You can read all
about the problems in the forum if you need to.

He must not read his own forums or any others. Canon may have sent
him a 20D that had been well checked out.

I would hope that any complete review would make mention of the
problems reported by the pros at least, they amount to more than a
smattering.

Lou

The review states that the firmware is 1.0.5, the latest firmware update, so
it would be expected that there would be no, or at least fewer, issues with
the camera.

--
Skip Middleton
http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com

"Lou" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 00:24:02 GMT, The Naked Whiz
wrote:

As he stated in his D30/D60/10D/20D forum, he did not experience any
of the problems, so he didn't report any of them. You can read all
about the problems in the forum if you need to.

He must not read his own forums or any others. Canon may have sent
him a 20D that had been well checked out.

I would hope that any complete review would make mention of the
problems reported by the pros at least, they amount to more than a
smattering.

Lou

The review states that the firmware is 1.0.5, the latest firmware update, so
it would be expected that there would be no, or at least fewer, issues with
the camera.

--
Skip Middleton
http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com

deryck lant wrote:

Nikon have promised 5 tiers of DSLR cameras. D70 entry level - just been
reduced to £780ish including the excellent !8-70mm lens (this lens would
be classed as an L class lens in Canon speak as it incorporates 3 ED
elements)

The D100/D200.

A New semi-pro camera.

Then the D1/D2 series.

Then what?

Lenses? What's making me think heavily about going 20D instead
of D70 is the availability of a reasonable consumer mid-telephoto
with image stabilisation.

If Nikon comes out with an AF-S VR 70-200 DX f4.5-5.6, it'll
be the bomb.

--
Ken Tough