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On 2012-08-05 10:21 , me wrote:
http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4947_1024.jpg http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4950_1024.jpg Nice, esp. the first one (other than the cropped wing tip). -- "Civilization is the limitless multiplication of unnecessary necessities." -Samuel Clemens. |
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http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4947_1024.jpg http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4950_1024.jpg I hope the speakers don't keep the chicks up. -- Neil |
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On 8/5/2012 11:22 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2012-08-05 10:21 , me wrote: http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4947_1024.jpg http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4950_1024.jpg Nice, esp. the first one (other than the cropped wing tip). Nice capture. The first is a strong image. Shame the speakers get in the way. They make the shot ineligible as a PSA nature shot. Cloning them out would make the first a lot stronger, but if you decide to play, don't enter the image in a PSA competition. -- Peter |
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:39:05 -0400, PeterN
wrote: : On 8/5/2012 11:22 AM, Alan Browne wrote: : On 2012-08-05 10:21 , me wrote: : http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4947_1024.jpg : : http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4950_1024.jpg : : Nice, esp. the first one (other than the cropped wing tip). : : : Nice capture. The first is a strong image. Shame the speakers get in the : way. They make the shot ineligible as a PSA nature shot. Cloning them : out would make the first a lot stronger, but if you decide to play, : don't enter the image in a PSA competition. I don't understand that. I'm guessing that nobody told the ospreys to build their nest there. So why is it less natural than if it were in a tree or on a rock outcropping? It's probably a pretty good location: good visibility and easy to defend from all but airborne predators. Bob |
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On 8/6/2012 10:09 PM, Robert Coe wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:39:05 -0400, PeterN wrote: : On 8/5/2012 11:22 AM, Alan Browne wrote: : On 2012-08-05 10:21 , me wrote: : http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4947_1024.jpg : : http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4950_1024.jpg : : Nice, esp. the first one (other than the cropped wing tip). : : : Nice capture. The first is a strong image. Shame the speakers get in the : way. They make the shot ineligible as a PSA nature shot. Cloning them : out would make the first a lot stronger, but if you decide to play, : don't enter the image in a PSA competition. I don't understand that. I'm guessing that nobody told the ospreys to build their nest there. So why is it less natural than if it were in a tree or on a rock outcropping? It's probably a pretty good location: good visibility and easy to defend from all but airborne predators. Bob I don't agree with that rule either. PSA is in transition, as are camera clubs. IIRC Tony Cooper's camera club only permits extensive editing in their creative category. My CC permits any amount of editing. -- Peter |
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On 2012-08-07 10:58:13 -0700, tony cooper said:
On Tue, 07 Aug 2012 12:18:19 -0400, PeterN wrote: On 8/6/2012 10:09 PM, Robert Coe wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:39:05 -0400, PeterN wrote: : On 8/5/2012 11:22 AM, Alan Browne wrote: : On 2012-08-05 10:21 , me wrote: : http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4947_1024.jpg : : http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4950_1024.jpg : : Nice, esp. the first one (other than the cropped wing tip). : : : Nice capture. The first is a strong image. Shame the speakers get in the : way. They make the shot ineligible as a PSA nature shot. Cloning them : out would make the first a lot stronger, but if you decide to play, : don't enter the image in a PSA competition. I don't understand that. I'm guessing that nobody told the ospreys to build their nest there. So why is it less natural than if it were in a tree or on a rock outcropping? It's probably a pretty good location: good visibility and easy to defend from all but airborne predators. Bob I don't agree with that rule either. PSA is in transition, as are camera clubs. IIRC Tony Cooper's camera club only permits extensive editing in their creative category. My CC permits any amount of editing. If the PSA rules are in transition, no slack in the area of manipulation is apparent: "In the interest of credibility, photographs that misrepresent the truth, such as manipulation to alter the subject matter, or situations which are set up for the purpose of photography, are unacceptable in Photojournalism competition. No elements may be moved, cloned, added, deleted, rearranged or combined. No manipulation or modification is permitted except resizing, sharpening, cropping, selective lightening or darkening, and restoration or original color of the scene. No special effect filters can be applied. Any adjustments must appear natural." The top image - http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4947_1024.jpg would be accepted in the Color (non-creative) category at my CC with the speaker on the left cropped out of the image and the speaker on the right cloned out. That wouldn't be considered to be a change that significantly alters the image. If that fish in osprey's claws was from another image, that would be a clear example of significant alteration. Do you mean something like this? http://db.tt/E1Umxus4 I can't see anyone submitting the other image for competition or bothering to do a lot of post on it. It's a good catch for the photographer, but it's not a competition-worthy image. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 8/7/2012 1:58 PM, tony cooper wrote:
On Tue, 07 Aug 2012 12:18:19 -0400, PeterN wrote: On 8/6/2012 10:09 PM, Robert Coe wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:39:05 -0400, PeterN wrote: : On 8/5/2012 11:22 AM, Alan Browne wrote: : On 2012-08-05 10:21 , me wrote: : http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4947_1024.jpg : : http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4950_1024.jpg : : Nice, esp. the first one (other than the cropped wing tip). : : : Nice capture. The first is a strong image. Shame the speakers get in the : way. They make the shot ineligible as a PSA nature shot. Cloning them : out would make the first a lot stronger, but if you decide to play, : don't enter the image in a PSA competition. I don't understand that. I'm guessing that nobody told the ospreys to build their nest there. So why is it less natural than if it were in a tree or on a rock outcropping? It's probably a pretty good location: good visibility and easy to defend from all but airborne predators. Bob I don't agree with that rule either. PSA is in transition, as are camera clubs. IIRC Tony Cooper's camera club only permits extensive editing in their creative category. My CC permits any amount of editing. If the PSA rules are in transition, no slack in the area of manipulation is apparent: "In the interest of credibility, photographs that misrepresent the truth, such as manipulation to alter the subject matter, or situations which are set up for the purpose of photography, are unacceptable in Photojournalism competition. No elements may be moved, cloned, added, deleted, rearranged or combined. No manipulation or modification is permitted except resizing, sharpening, cropping, selective lightening or darkening, and restoration or original color of the scene. No special effect filters can be applied. Any adjustments must appear natural." The top image - http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4947_1024.jpg would be accepted in the Color (non-creative) category at my CC with the speaker on the left cropped out of the image and the speaker on the right cloned out. That wouldn't be considered to be a change that significantly alters the image. If that fish in osprey's claws was from another image, that would be a clear example of significant alteration. So would cloning out the speakers. When i made my comment, I was referring to the Nature Division, which currently has rules similar to those in the PJ division. The rule revisions referred to are related to the extent of permissible adjustments for exposure compensation, sharpness and blurring. I have heard noting about reality changes. I can't see anyone submitting the other image for competition or bothering to do a lot of post on it. It's a good catch for the photographer, but it's not a competition-worthy image. -- Peter |
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On 8/6/2012 7:57 AM, Neil Ellwood wrote:
me wrote: http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4947_1024.jpg http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4950_1024.jpg I hope the speakers don't keep the chicks up. In my younger days I would try to keep the chick up all night, if possible. Wait, Oh! you mean THAT kind of chick. -- Peter |
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Osprey returning to nest with dinner
On 8/7/2012 3:11 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 8/6/2012 7:57 AM, Neil Ellwood wrote: me wrote: http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4947_1024.jpg http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4950_1024.jpg I hope the speakers don't keep the chicks up. In my younger days I would try to keep the chick up all night, if possible. Wait, Oh! you mean THAT kind of chick. "Keep...up all night"; surely not! -- Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD) Extraneous "not" in Reply To. |
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