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Old March 31st 04, 09:07 PM
bk
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Default Zeiss Nettar 6x9

Takes 120 film and yields 8 images. Has a 105mm Nettar lens with f6
to f45 and B, 1/20, 1/75 and 1/200 shutter speeds.

The field of view is very wide, but I must scale focus and the
viewfinder doesn't due justice to the image on the film.

Was the purpose of this design for group portraits or landscapes?
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Old March 31st 04, 09:48 PM
Christian Kolinski
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bk wrote:
Takes 120 film and yields 8 images. Has a 105mm Nettar lens with f6
to f45 and B, 1/20, 1/75 and 1/200 shutter speeds.


The field of view is very wide, but I must scale focus and the
viewfinder doesn't due justice to the image on the film.


That's quite normal for cameras like that.

Was the purpose of this design for group portraits or landscapes?


For everything. Folding cameras like the Nettar have been very popular
during the first half of the 20th century.

Before the Rolleiflexes, Leicas, Contaxes and Hasselblads the folding
cameras ruled the photogafic world (so to speak). First with glass-
plates, later with film.

For portraits you could buy aditional lenses (as the 1,5m or 2m closest
distance limits the use for portraits).

The Nettar was a 3-lens desing and has to be stopped down to produce
acceptable results. In their days the 6x9cm negatives weren't enlarged.
Most of them was just contact-printed. And so the quality of a Nettar
was a big step up from a box-camera.

Chris
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Old April 1st 04, 07:29 PM
bk
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Default Zeiss Nettar 6x9

Christian Kolinski wrote in message ...
bk wrote:
Takes 120 film and yields 8 images. Has a 105mm Nettar lens with f6
to f45 and B, 1/20, 1/75 and 1/200 shutter speeds.


The field of view is very wide, but I must scale focus and the
viewfinder doesn't due justice to the image on the film.


That's quite normal for cameras like that.

Was the purpose of this design for group portraits or landscapes?


For everything. Folding cameras like the Nettar have been very popular
during the first half of the 20th century.

Before the Rolleiflexes, Leicas, Contaxes and Hasselblads the folding
cameras ruled the photogafic world (so to speak). First with glass-
plates, later with film.
For portraits you could buy aditional lenses (as the 1,5m or 2m

closest
distance limits the use for portraits).

The Nettar was a 3-lens desing and has to be stopped down to produce
acceptable results. In their days the 6x9cm negatives weren't enlarged.
Most of them was just contact-printed. And so the quality of a Nettar
was a big step up from a box-camera.

Chris


With the additional lenses do you mean to attach onto the front of the
lens? Or is there a way to detach the shuttered lense and replace
that?
I am using the camera in well lit settings and the smaller f stops do
give a nice edge to edge image.
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Old April 1st 04, 09:20 PM
Christian Kolinski
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Default Zeiss Nettar 6x9

bk wrote:
Christian Kolinski wrote in message ...
bk wrote:
Takes 120 film and yields 8 images. Has a 105mm Nettar lens with f6
to f45 and B, 1/20, 1/75 and 1/200 shutter speeds.


The field of view is very wide, but I must scale focus and the
viewfinder doesn't due justice to the image on the film.


That's quite normal for cameras like that.

Was the purpose of this design for group portraits or landscapes?


For everything. Folding cameras like the Nettar have been very popular
during the first half of the 20th century.

Before the Rolleiflexes, Leicas, Contaxes and Hasselblads the folding
cameras ruled the photogafic world (so to speak). First with glass-
plates, later with film.
For portraits you could buy aditional lenses (as the 1,5m or 2m

closest
distance limits the use for portraits).

The Nettar was a 3-lens desing and has to be stopped down to produce
acceptable results. In their days the 6x9cm negatives weren't enlarged.
Most of them was just contact-printed. And so the quality of a Nettar
was a big step up from a box-camera.

Chris


With the additional lenses do you mean to attach onto the front of the
lens? Or is there a way to detach the shuttered lense and replace
that?


Additional lenses to attach onto the front.
According to my manual there were 5 lenses availiable:

For the 1:6,3 lense:
Type 995/8 for distances from 1m to 2m

For the 1:4,5 lense:
995/24 for 0.75m to 1.5m
995/25 for 0.5 to 0.75m

For the 1:3,5 lense:
995/48 for 0.75 to 1.5m
995/49 for 0.5 to 0.75m

Don't expect to much of those lenses. This have been simple lenses
and therefore didn't do well to picture quality.

There's no way to remove the shuttered lense.

I am using the camera in well lit settings and the smaller f stops do
give a nice edge to edge image.


Yes, they do. Of course you can't expect 'blad like quality from this
camera. But they are a cheap way to get addicted to medium format.
And a 6x9 negative or slide is a impressive thing to look at.

If you're out for a better lens you have to look for a Ikonta with
Tessar or some similar models from Voigtländer (like the Bessa with
Skopar or Heliar). But the Zeiss-Ikons are one of the best folders
ever made. A Bessa feels cheap an fragile compared to a simple Nettar.


Chris
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Old April 2nd 04, 08:30 AM
Lassi Hippeläinen
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Christian Kolinski wrote:

Additional lenses to attach onto the front.
According to my manual there were 5 lenses availiable:

For the 1:6,3 lense:
Type 995/8 for distances from 1m to 2m

For the 1:4,5 lense:
995/24 for 0.75m to 1.5m
995/25 for 0.5 to 0.75m

For the 1:3,5 lense:
995/48 for 0.75 to 1.5m
995/49 for 0.5 to 0.75m

Don't expect to much of those lenses. This have been simple lenses
and therefore didn't do well to picture quality.


Those are ordinary close-up lenses that do not degrade image quality too
much. The tele and wide adapters that were made for other fixed lens
cameras, like Rolleiflex TLRs, are another story.

...
If you're out for a better lens you have to look for a Ikonta with
Tessar or some similar models from Voigtländer (like the Bessa with
Skopar or Heliar). But the Zeiss-Ikons are one of the best folders
ever made. A Bessa feels cheap an fragile compared to a simple Nettar.


Zeiss has always been known as mechanically better than Voigtländer,
even though optically they are equivalent. A cheap way to get the Zeiss
feeling is the Soviet copy called Moscow (6x9 with Tessar-like lens),
but be ware of bad individuals.

-- Lassi
 




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