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Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats DSLR (again) - Film at 11
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Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats DSLR (again) - Film at 11
Morey Staffer wrote:
http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ca..._results.shtml If it beat anything, it was the lens, not the DSLR. I guess this shows that these two cameras' lenses are on par with Canon's cheapest kit lens for their budget line of DSLR's. |
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Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats DSLR (again) - Film at 11
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:42:31 -0600, Sherry Miller wrote:
Morey Staffer wrote: http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ca..._results.shtml If it beat anything, it was the lens, not the DSLR. I guess this shows that these two cameras' lenses are on par with Canon's cheapest kit lens for their budget line of DSLR's. So .... that means, what? That you're going to have to throw another $2000+ worth of lenses at the DSLR in order to make it beat the image quality and keep the same zoom range as the P&S camera? Sounds like what you are saying. |
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Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats DSLR (again) - Film at 11
bradford andersen wrote in
: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:42:31 -0600, Sherry Miller wrote: Morey Staffer wrote: http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ca...IS/outdoor_res ults.shtml If it beat anything, it was the lens, not the DSLR. I guess this shows that these two cameras' lenses are on par with Canon's cheapest kit lens for their budget line of DSLR's. So .... that means, what? That you're going to have to throw another $2000+ worth of lenses at the DSLR in order to make it beat the image quality and keep the same zoom range as the P&S camera? Sounds like what you are saying. There is a small thing called "resolving power" that is convieniently missing from the assment of this camera. The crap sensor is one exaple and the plastic element lens is another of why it will never really rival a DSLR. Good luch with your faith in the toy. It doesn't "beat" a DSLR or for that matter even rival one with image quality. All it has is a lens that might last out the camera and might not - that has a reach few people will ever need at a sacrifice in quality that will never show up until you try to print an enlargement. Nice enough plastic camera with a plastic lens that although it out reaches the Olympus in the same range, will never come close to the same quality as the Olympus produces. Dream on children. |
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Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats Canon DSLR
Sherry Miller wrote:
http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ca..._results.shtml If it beat anything, it was the lens, not the DSLR. I guess this shows that these two cameras' lenses are on par with Canon's cheapest kit lens for their budget line of DSLR's. Yes, it shows just how bad the cheap Canon lenses can be. Pity they didn't choose a Nikon instead who generally do better with their lowest price lenses. Let's see the same test at ISO 1600. David |
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Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats Canon DSLR
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:21:02 GMT, "David J Taylor"
wrote: Sherry Miller wrote: http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ca..._results.shtml If it beat anything, it was the lens, not the DSLR. I guess this shows that these two cameras' lenses are on par with Canon's cheapest kit lens for their budget line of DSLR's. Yes, it shows just how bad the cheap Canon lenses can be. Pity they didn't choose a Nikon instead who generally do better with their lowest price lenses. Let's see the same test at ISO 1600. David Why? A talented photographer they can do all their photography even at ISO25 if they want to. Many real pros have done just that for many decades. High ISO is the amateur's crutch. Someone thinking that a selling point is just revealing that they know very little about how to use a camera properly and even less about the art of photography. |
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Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats DSLR (again) - Film at 11
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:18:54 +0000 (UTC), Jurgen wrote:
bradford andersen wrote in : On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:42:31 -0600, Sherry Miller wrote: Morey Staffer wrote: http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ca...IS/outdoor_res ults.shtml If it beat anything, it was the lens, not the DSLR. I guess this shows that these two cameras' lenses are on par with Canon's cheapest kit lens for their budget line of DSLR's. So .... that means, what? That you're going to have to throw another $2000+ worth of lenses at the DSLR in order to make it beat the image quality and keep the same zoom range as the P&S camera? Sounds like what you are saying. There is a small thing called "resolving power" that is convieniently missing from the assment of this camera. The crap sensor is one exaple and the plastic element lens is another of why it will never really rival a DSLR. Good luch with your faith in the toy. It doesn't "beat" a DSLR or for that matter even rival one with image quality. All it has is a lens that might last out the camera and might not - that has a reach few people will ever need at a sacrifice in quality that will never show up until you try to print an enlargement. Nice enough plastic camera with a plastic lens that although it out reaches the Olympus in the same range, will never come close to the same quality as the Olympus produces. Dream on children. Another online idiot that doesn't realize that acrylic lens elements can outperform even the best and most expensive fluorite designs. Oh well. |
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Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats Canon DSLR
ParkerGrant wrote:
Why? A talented photographer they can do all their photography even at ISO25 if they want to. I await such shots from a moody, smoky acoustic gig in a club. BugBear |
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Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats Canon DSLR
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:25:54 +0000, bugbear
wrote: ParkerGrant wrote: Why? A talented photographer they can do all their photography even at ISO25 if they want to. I await such shots from a moody, smoky acoustic gig in a club. BugBear Depends on the effect that you want to achieve. Some motion-blur is more than welcomed, it is required to impart some moods and overall ambiance to make a photo a success. A pro might also request that some strategically placed, but unobtrusive, lighting might be allowed. I have some photos of this nature taken at ISO80 from quite a few all-night outdoor music events. Most of the event lit up with just campfires with a few dim colored lights hitting the stage. Taken hand-held with a 300mm f.l. lens. You wait for the right moment to click the shutter. When the artist's face might be perfectly still but their hand might be in motion to show their work on the frets of the guitar. Or the moment when their head dips to a limit of its motion and catching a flair of blurry hair, but the face remains tack-sharp for that partial second. It's all about the timing, knowing your subject, and being able to anticipate when to trip the shutter. It's called talent, and the art of photography. Something that so few of you ever seem to discuss. Most likely because none of you know what it is. You all want that camera to do it all for you, don't you. Buy another one, maybe there's talent inside that next camera. Maybe it's listed on the box or in the manual somewhere. Keep looking, you might one day find it. |
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Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats DSLR (again) - Film at 11
Sherry Miller wrote:
Morey Staffer wrote: http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ca..._results.shtml If it beat anything, it was the lens, not the DSLR. I guess this shows that these two cameras' lenses are on par with Canon's cheapest kit lens for their budget line of DSLR's. That was my first thought as well, 'wow, the Canon P&S lenses are as bad as the lens that Canon put into their cheapest kits.' The difference is that you can change the lens on the D-SLR, LOL. Geez, the Panasonic looks terrible though. |
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