A Photography forum. PhotoBanter.com

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » PhotoBanter.com forum » Digital Photography » Digital Photography
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats DSLR (again) - Film at 11



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old November 20th 08, 05:23 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Morey Staffer
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2
Default Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats DSLR (again) - Film at 11



http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ca..._results.shtml

  #2  
Old November 20th 08, 05:42 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Sherry Miller
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2
Default Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats DSLR (again) - Film at 11

Morey Staffer wrote:

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ca..._results.shtml


If it beat anything, it was the lens, not the DSLR. I guess this shows
that these two cameras' lenses are on par with Canon's cheapest kit lens
for their budget line of DSLR's.
  #3  
Old November 20th 08, 06:54 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
bradford andersen
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2
Default Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats DSLR (again) - Film at 11

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:42:31 -0600, Sherry Miller wrote:

Morey Staffer wrote:

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ca..._results.shtml


If it beat anything, it was the lens, not the DSLR. I guess this shows
that these two cameras' lenses are on par with Canon's cheapest kit lens
for their budget line of DSLR's.


So .... that means, what? That you're going to have to throw another $2000+
worth of lenses at the DSLR in order to make it beat the image quality and keep
the same zoom range as the P&S camera? Sounds like what you are saying.

  #4  
Old November 20th 08, 08:18 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Jurgen[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4
Default Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats DSLR (again) - Film at 11

bradford andersen wrote in
:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:42:31 -0600, Sherry Miller
wrote:

Morey Staffer wrote:

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ca...IS/outdoor_res
ults.shtml


If it beat anything, it was the lens, not the DSLR. I guess this shows
that these two cameras' lenses are on par with Canon's cheapest kit
lens for their budget line of DSLR's.


So .... that means, what? That you're going to have to throw another
$2000+ worth of lenses at the DSLR in order to make it beat the image
quality and keep the same zoom range as the P&S camera? Sounds like
what you are saying.



There is a small thing called "resolving power" that is convieniently
missing from the assment of this camera. The crap sensor is one exaple and
the plastic element lens is another of why it will never really rival a
DSLR.

Good luch with your faith in the toy. It doesn't "beat" a DSLR or for that
matter even rival one with image quality. All it has is a lens that might
last out the camera and might not - that has a reach few people will ever
need at a sacrifice in quality that will never show up until you try to
print an enlargement.

Nice enough plastic camera with a plastic lens that although it out reaches
the Olympus in the same range, will never come close to the same quality as
the Olympus produces. Dream on children.
  #5  
Old November 20th 08, 08:21 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
David J Taylor[_7_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 677
Default Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats Canon DSLR

Sherry Miller wrote:

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ca..._results.shtml

If it beat anything, it was the lens, not the DSLR. I guess this shows
that these two cameras' lenses are on par with Canon's cheapest kit
lens for their budget line of DSLR's.


Yes, it shows just how bad the cheap Canon lenses can be. Pity they
didn't choose a Nikon instead who generally do better with their lowest
price lenses. Let's see the same test at ISO 1600.

David

  #6  
Old November 20th 08, 08:35 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
ParkerGrant
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3
Default Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats Canon DSLR

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:21:02 GMT, "David J Taylor"
wrote:

Sherry Miller wrote:

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ca..._results.shtml

If it beat anything, it was the lens, not the DSLR. I guess this shows
that these two cameras' lenses are on par with Canon's cheapest kit
lens for their budget line of DSLR's.


Yes, it shows just how bad the cheap Canon lenses can be. Pity they
didn't choose a Nikon instead who generally do better with their lowest
price lenses. Let's see the same test at ISO 1600.

David


Why? A talented photographer they can do all their photography even at ISO25 if
they want to. Many real pros have done just that for many decades. High ISO is
the amateur's crutch. Someone thinking that a selling point is just revealing
that they know very little about how to use a camera properly and even less
about the art of photography.

  #7  
Old November 20th 08, 08:39 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
harvey_carpell
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2
Default Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats DSLR (again) - Film at 11

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:18:54 +0000 (UTC), Jurgen wrote:

bradford andersen wrote in
:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:42:31 -0600, Sherry Miller
wrote:

Morey Staffer wrote:

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ca...IS/outdoor_res
ults.shtml


If it beat anything, it was the lens, not the DSLR. I guess this shows
that these two cameras' lenses are on par with Canon's cheapest kit
lens for their budget line of DSLR's.


So .... that means, what? That you're going to have to throw another
$2000+ worth of lenses at the DSLR in order to make it beat the image
quality and keep the same zoom range as the P&S camera? Sounds like
what you are saying.



There is a small thing called "resolving power" that is convieniently
missing from the assment of this camera. The crap sensor is one exaple and
the plastic element lens is another of why it will never really rival a
DSLR.

Good luch with your faith in the toy. It doesn't "beat" a DSLR or for that
matter even rival one with image quality. All it has is a lens that might
last out the camera and might not - that has a reach few people will ever
need at a sacrifice in quality that will never show up until you try to
print an enlargement.

Nice enough plastic camera with a plastic lens that although it out reaches
the Olympus in the same range, will never come close to the same quality as
the Olympus produces. Dream on children.


Another online idiot that doesn't realize that acrylic lens elements can
outperform even the best and most expensive fluorite designs. Oh well.

  #8  
Old November 20th 08, 10:25 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
bugbear
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,258
Default Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats Canon DSLR

ParkerGrant wrote:

Why? A talented photographer they can do all their photography even at ISO25 if
they want to.


I await such shots from a moody, smoky acoustic gig
in a club.

BugBear
  #9  
Old November 20th 08, 11:29 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
ben_pallace
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1
Default Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats Canon DSLR

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:25:54 +0000, bugbear
wrote:

ParkerGrant wrote:

Why? A talented photographer they can do all their photography even at ISO25 if
they want to.


I await such shots from a moody, smoky acoustic gig
in a club.

BugBear


Depends on the effect that you want to achieve. Some motion-blur is more than
welcomed, it is required to impart some moods and overall ambiance to make a
photo a success. A pro might also request that some strategically placed, but
unobtrusive, lighting might be allowed.

I have some photos of this nature taken at ISO80 from quite a few all-night
outdoor music events. Most of the event lit up with just campfires with a few
dim colored lights hitting the stage. Taken hand-held with a 300mm f.l. lens.
You wait for the right moment to click the shutter. When the artist's face might
be perfectly still but their hand might be in motion to show their work on the
frets of the guitar. Or the moment when their head dips to a limit of its motion
and catching a flair of blurry hair, but the face remains tack-sharp for that
partial second. It's all about the timing, knowing your subject, and being able
to anticipate when to trip the shutter. It's called talent, and the art of
photography. Something that so few of you ever seem to discuss. Most likely
because none of you know what it is. You all want that camera to do it all for
you, don't you. Buy another one, maybe there's talent inside that next camera.
Maybe it's listed on the box or in the manual somewhere. Keep looking, you might
one day find it.

  #10  
Old November 20th 08, 11:37 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
SMS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,312
Default Super-Zoom P&S Camera Beats DSLR (again) - Film at 11

Sherry Miller wrote:
Morey Staffer wrote:

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ca..._results.shtml



If it beat anything, it was the lens, not the DSLR. I guess this shows
that these two cameras' lenses are on par with Canon's cheapest kit lens
for their budget line of DSLR's.


That was my first thought as well, 'wow, the Canon P&S lenses are as bad
as the lens that Canon put into their cheapest kits.' The difference is
that you can change the lens on the D-SLR, LOL.

Geez, the Panasonic looks terrible though.
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FA: Minolta XL601 Super 8 Camera with Intervalometer, 6x Zoom, elmo General Equipment For Sale 0 September 8th 05 05:35 AM
FA: $10>YASHICA 20XL SUPER 8MM ZOOM SOUND MOVIE CAMERA RICH-WA2RQY 35mm Equipment for Sale 0 March 8th 05 04:18 PM
FA : KOWA SUper 66 Medium Format film camera Dan Conti General Equipment For Sale 0 November 29th 04 02:29 AM
FA: Minolta Xl601 Super 8 camera with intervalometer, 6x zoom, time lapse! NR Rick General Equipment For Sale 1 July 27th 04 01:43 PM
FA: Minolta Xl601 Super 8 camera with intervalometer, 6x zoom, time lapse! NR Rick General Equipment For Sale 0 July 4th 04 06:08 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 PhotoBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.