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Old October 22nd 08, 06:30 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
(PeteCresswell)
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Can anybody recommend something for photographing animals?

The main problem seems tb that the animal will look this way and
that - faster than one can click the shutter.

I'm thinking burst mode...

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Old October 22nd 08, 06:50 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Paul[_6_]
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"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
...

Can anybody recommend something for photographing animals?

The main problem seems tb that the animal will look this way and
that - faster than one can click the shutter.

I'm thinking burst mode...



Sure, Canon 1D III or a Nikon D3. How big is your wallet?

Seriously though, it sounds like you are trying to shoot with maybe a p&s,
so something like an SLR would be faster to respond.

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Old October 22nd 08, 09:27 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Bob Williams
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(PeteCresswell) wrote:
Can anybody recommend something for photographing animals?

The main problem seems tb that the animal will look this way and
that - faster than one can click the shutter.

I'm thinking burst mode...

You need to look at the CASIO EX-FH20.
It can capture at 40 frames/sec. And believe it or not, it even captures
and holds in its buffer, a few frames BEFORE you press the shutter.
Read more at: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08...casio_fh20.asp

Bob Williams
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Old October 22nd 08, 10:39 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Si Taylor
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:50:38 +0100, "Paul" wrote:

"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
.. .

Can anybody recommend something for photographing animals?

The main problem seems tb that the animal will look this way and
that - faster than one can click the shutter.

I'm thinking burst mode...



Sure, Canon 1D III or a Nikon D3. How big is your wallet?

Seriously though, it sounds like you are trying to shoot with maybe a p&s,
so something like an SLR would be faster to respond.


Holy crap. Are you that lame that you don't know how to use ANY camera to shoot
wildlife? I often use super-zoom P&S cameras to capture swift birds in flight. A
super-zoom lens and their light-weight makes it a breeze to frame them
accurately as their distance changes rapidly. (What? You don't know what
hyperfocal means? Learn it.) Ever try to follow a swallow in flight with a 430mm
lens? It's easy when you have the skill and talent, with ANY camera. Are you
seriously this lame and have so little skill that you can't use any camera for
this?

The other much more important reason for using a P&S camera is that they are
totally silent. They won't scare away wild animals like a DSLR will with its
annoyingly loud and obnoxious sound. You also won't change their natural
behavior by putting them on the alert and they make quick darting gestures
trying to figure out what idiot is behind that vegetation, rapidly wondering if
they should stay or go, so they go to be on the safe side, to get away from the
moron making those loud and unnatural noises. You will also appreciate the
silence when you are photographing large predators in the wild. Just what you
want to do is make noises to alert them to your presence.

Wait, on second thought. Yes, you SHOULD use a DSLR. Now go photograph some
Brown Bears and Bengals in the wild. Make sure you let someone know where you
went on your photography trip so they can retrieve the camera and we can all
enjoy you final photos.

I do so love Darwinism. If only these newsgroup idiots who offer their lame
advice actually got out and used their imaginary DSLRs for real wildlife
photography as they claim they do, there'd be so less fewer idiots in the world.

What amazingly stupid and inept idiots these virtual-photographer newsgroup
morons be.
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Old October 22nd 08, 11:02 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Allodoxaphobia
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:42:50 -0700 (PDT), Nervous Nick wrote:

I do so love Darwinism. If only these newsgroup idiots ........

What amazingly stupid and inept idiots these virtual-photographer
newsgroup morons be.


ibid.
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Old October 22nd 08, 11:11 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
George Kerby
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On 10/22/08 4:42 PM, in article
, "Nervous
Nick" wrote:

On Oct 22, 4:39*pm, Si Taylor wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:50:38 +0100, "Paul" wrote:
"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
...


Can anybody recommend something for photographing animals?


The main problem seems tb that the animal will look this way and
that - faster than one can click the shutter.


I'm thinking burst mode...


Sure, Canon 1D III or a Nikon D3. *How big is your wallet?


Seriously though, it sounds like you are trying to shoot with maybe a p&s,
so something like an SLR would be faster to respond.


Holy crap. Are you that lame that you don't know how to use ANY camera to
shoot
wildlife? I often use super-zoom P&S cameras to capture swift birds in
flight. A
super-zoom lens and their light-weight makes it a breeze to frame them
accurately as their distance changes rapidly. (What? You don't know what
hyperfocal means? Learn it.) Ever try to follow a swallow in flight with a
430mm
lens? It's easy when you have the skill and talent, with ANY camera. Are you
seriously this lame and have so little skill that you can't use any camera
for
this?

The other much more important reason for using a P&S camera is that they are
totally silent. They won't scare away wild animals like a DSLR will with its
annoyingly loud and obnoxious sound. You also won't change their natural
behavior by putting them on the alert and they make quick darting gestures
trying to figure out what idiot is behind that vegetation, rapidly wondering
if
they should stay or go, so they go to be on the safe side, to get away from
the
moron making those loud and unnatural noises. You will also appreciate the
silence when you are photographing large predators in the wild. Just what you
want to do is make noises to alert them to your presence.

Wait, on second thought. Yes, you SHOULD use a DSLR. Now go photograph some
Brown Bears and Bengals in the wild. *Make sure you let someone know where
you
went on your photography trip so they can retrieve the camera and we can all
enjoy you final photos.

I do so love Darwinism. If only these newsgroup idiots who offer their lame
advice actually got out and used their imaginary DSLRs for real wildlife
photography as they claim they do, there'd be so less fewer idiots in the
world.

What amazingly stupid and inept idiots these virtual-photographer newsgroup
morons be.


So how do you feel about zucchini?

--
YOP...

;-)

I was gonna suggest a lump of lignite...

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Old October 22nd 08, 11:56 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Roy G[_2_]
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"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
...
Can anybody recommend something for photographing animals?

The main problem seems tb that the animal will look this way and
that - faster than one can click the shutter.

I'm thinking burst mode...

--
PeteCresswell



The one thing you should know about Expert Wildlife Photographers, is that
they were Experts on the Wildlife BEFORE they were Expert Wildlife
Photographers.

So forget about cameras until you know enough about your intended subjects.

Roy G


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Old October 23rd 08, 12:49 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Mark Thomas
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Si Taylor wrote:
(usual rubbish)

Hi, "Vern".
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Old October 23rd 08, 02:01 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
BlackShadow
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Si Taylor wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:50:38 +0100, "Paul" wrote:

"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
...

Can anybody recommend something for photographing animals?

The main problem seems tb that the animal will look this way and
that - faster than one can click the shutter.

I'm thinking burst mode...


Sure, Canon 1D III or a Nikon D3. How big is your wallet?

Seriously though, it sounds like you are trying to shoot with maybe a p&s,
so something like an SLR would be faster to respond.


Holy crap. Are you that lame that you don't know how to use ANY camera to shoot
wildlife?


You can't use any camera to shoot wildlife. Not if you want results worth
framing.

You need a minimum set of performance levels. It needs to have a fast
enough lens to use in the lower levels of light found in many wildlife
habitats, forests, bush, jungle. Not all wildlife flies about in a bright
blue sky. It needs to have sufficient sensitivity to allow the higher ISO's
required by a long lens in less than ideal light. Many wildlife shots are
best early or late in the day when animals go to water. That usually means
a larger sensor than many of the smaller P&S cameras offer.

I often use super-zoom P&S cameras to capture swift birds in flight.


Swift? As against those lumbering, slow moving dirigible birds?


A super-zoom lens and their light-weight makes it a breeze to frame them
accurately as their distance changes rapidly.


And their slower speed at longer lengths negates that advantage. Some P&S
zooms are good for some situations, but I can't imagine ANY professional
wildlife photographer relying on one for all situations. Very much an
amateur answer.


(What? You don't know what
hyperfocal means? Learn it.)


Who suggested that the poster doesn't understand hyperfocal?

Ever try to follow a swallow in flight with a 430mm
lens? It's easy when you have the skill and talent, with ANY camera. Are you
seriously this lame and have so little skill that you can't use any camera for
this?


Once again - you can't use any camera for this, no matter how many times to
try to claim you can. You have already noted that you use a superzoom P&S.
That is NOT any camera and a superzoom P&S would be barely adequate in most
real wildlife situations.


The other much more important reason for using a P&S camera is that they are
totally silent. They won't scare away wild animals like a DSLR will with its
annoyingly loud and obnoxious sound.


If you have got the shot you are after, the sound and the animal's response
are hardly an issue. Do you often miss shots and need to try again? Is that
why you like a quiet camera?

You also won't change their natural
behavior by putting them on the alert and they make quick darting gestures
trying to figure out what idiot is behind that vegetation, rapidly wondering if
they should stay or go, so they go to be on the safe side, to get away from the
moron making those loud and unnatural noises. You will also appreciate the
silence when you are photographing large predators in the wild.


Yes Walter, I can just imagine you photographing large predators in the
wild. Was that before or after you won the war single handed and seduced
all the good looking women?

If all your wildlife experience is with a point and shoot, I suggest you
save up for a better camera then try photographing some wildlife that isn't
creeping around under your fridge.

BlackShadow

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Old October 23rd 08, 02:24 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Per Roy G:
So forget about cameras until you know enough about your intended subjects.


User is somebody else.

Intended subject are dogs that she raises.
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PeteCresswell
 




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