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P&S RETARDS claim another victim (freedom diminished)



 
 
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Old February 1st 10, 02:52 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Graham Harrison[_2_]
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"RichA" wrote in message
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Because these cretins don't know how to turn off flashes in their
cameras and their cameras SUCK for shooting in low-light, we now have
this, a prohibition on photographing a very important document.
Museums often tell people, "no flash photography" but the fools can't
comply.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=34352418


Having run up against similar restrictions in various places I have some
sympathy with the actions of the museums. For instance, I visited a site
in New Zealand where Little Blue Penguins come ashore every evening. They
had had so many problems that they had banned photography. I don't like it
but I understand. You can blame the users of the cameras but you can also
blame the designers who make flash on the default (my SLR suffers from that
and I've had to change the default). If the default was flash off most
people would not bother to find how to change the default but would work out
how to turn it on when needed.

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Old February 1st 10, 06:22 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Pete[_7_]
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Graham Harrison wrote:
"RichA" wrote in message
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Because these cretins don't know how to turn off flashes in their
cameras and their cameras SUCK for shooting in low-light, we now have
this, a prohibition on photographing a very important document.
Museums often tell people, "no flash photography" but the fools can't
comply.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=34352418


Having run up against similar restrictions in various places I have some
sympathy with the actions of the museums. For instance, I visited a site
in New Zealand where Little Blue Penguins come ashore every evening.
They had had so many problems that they had banned photography. I don't
like it but I understand. You can blame the users of the cameras but you
can also blame the designers who make flash on the default (my SLR suffers
from that and I've had to change the default). If the default was flash
off most people would not bother to find how to change the default but
would work out how to turn it on when needed.


That is what I've wanted to say for ages, but I've refrained because my
command of language is insufficient. Thank you for putting it so eloquently.

I've watched people taking pictures on advanced looking, medium sized, and
expensive all-in-ones, of large vessels about 200m away - the flash fires on
every shot. I try not to be judgemental therefore possibilities include: the
flash guide number is higher than I thought possible; instruction books are
too difficult to read; common sense is not important; I have much to learn.
Out of those, only the last one is a certainty.

Pete


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Old February 1st 10, 06:31 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Jürgen Exner
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"Pete" wrote:
I've watched people taking pictures on advanced looking, medium sized, and
expensive all-in-ones, of large vessels about 200m away - the flash fires on
every shot. I try not to be judgemental therefore possibilities include: the
flash guide number is higher than I thought possible; instruction books are
too difficult to read; common sense is not important; I have much to learn.
Out of those, only the last one is a certainty.


I have seen people trying to illuminate Mt. Rainier
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt_Rainier) from 10 miles away using the
build-in flash of a P&S: "Why is the picture so dark? I thought the
flash fired, didn't it?"

jue
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Old February 1st 10, 06:38 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Pete[_7_]
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Jürgen Exner wrote:
I have seen people trying to illuminate Mt. Rainier
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt_Rainier) from 10 miles away using the
build-in flash of a P&S: "Why is the picture so dark? I thought the
flash fired, didn't it?"


Thanks Jue, that's 10 miles/200 m better than anything I've seen. Priceless,
I will always keep this in mind.

Pete


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Old February 2nd 10, 12:05 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 09:31:13 -0800, Jürgen Exner
wrote:

"Pete" wrote:
I've watched people taking pictures on advanced looking, medium sized, and
expensive all-in-ones, of large vessels about 200m away - the flash fires on
every shot. I try not to be judgemental therefore possibilities include: the
flash guide number is higher than I thought possible; instruction books are
too difficult to read; common sense is not important; I have much to learn.
Out of those, only the last one is a certainty.


I have seen people trying to illuminate Mt. Rainier
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt_Rainier) from 10 miles away using the
build-in flash of a P&S: "Why is the picture so dark? I thought the
flash fired, didn't it?"

jue


What's even worse are all those idiots with D/SLRs that have ruined
everyone's chance of taking pictures of stage-plays, concerts, operas, and
all other live performances because of their obnoxiously loud shutters and
slapping mirrors. Not to mention them having to obstruct everyone's view
and become an obstacle hazard with their heavy and large tripods everywhere
they go. Luckily most places for public performances have management smart
enough to allow P&S cameras in because they know the sound from them won't
disturb anyone and destroy everyone's performance that they paid for, like
a DSLR owner will always do, whether you want them to or not. Stupid DSLR
owners always ruin it for EVERYONE.


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Old February 2nd 10, 12:13 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Jürgen Exner
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Dale Greene wrote:
[whatever]

Seems you never run out of new fake names, do you?
*PLONK* again

jue
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Old February 2nd 10, 12:44 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Tony Cooper
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On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:05:47 -0600, Dale Greene
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 09:31:13 -0800, Jürgen Exner
wrote:

"Pete" wrote:
I've watched people taking pictures on advanced looking, medium sized, and
expensive all-in-ones, of large vessels about 200m away - the flash fires on
every shot. I try not to be judgemental therefore possibilities include: the
flash guide number is higher than I thought possible; instruction books are
too difficult to read; common sense is not important; I have much to learn.
Out of those, only the last one is a certainty.


I have seen people trying to illuminate Mt. Rainier
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt_Rainier) from 10 miles away using the
build-in flash of a P&S: "Why is the picture so dark? I thought the
flash fired, didn't it?"

jue


What's even worse are all those idiots with D/SLRs that have ruined
everyone's chance of taking pictures of stage-plays, concerts, operas, and
all other live performances because of their obnoxiously loud shutters and
slapping mirrors. Not to mention them having to obstruct everyone's view
and become an obstacle hazard with their heavy and large tripods everywhere
they go. Luckily most places for public performances have management smart
enough to allow P&S cameras in because they know the sound from them won't
disturb anyone and destroy everyone's performance that they paid for, like
a DSLR owner will always do, whether you want them to or not. Stupid DSLR
owners always ruin it for EVERYONE.

Just the opposite...it's the P&S shooters who have no way to turn off
the flash, or no knowledge of how to turn off the flash, that ruin
live performances. Dslr shooters know how to shoot without flash at
higher ISO settings.


--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
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Old February 2nd 10, 08:11 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Ray Fischer
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Dale Greene wrote:
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 09:31:13 -0800, Jürgen Exner
wrote:

"Pete" wrote:
I've watched people taking pictures on advanced looking, medium sized, and
expensive all-in-ones, of large vessels about 200m away - the flash fires on
every shot. I try not to be judgemental therefore possibilities include: the
flash guide number is higher than I thought possible; instruction books are
too difficult to read; common sense is not important; I have much to learn.
Out of those, only the last one is a certainty.


I have seen people trying to illuminate Mt. Rainier
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt_Rainier) from 10 miles away using the
build-in flash of a P&S: "Why is the picture so dark? I thought the
flash fired, didn't it?"


What's even worse are all those idiots with D/SLRs that have ruined
everyone's chance of taking pictures of stage-plays, concerts, operas, and
all other live performances because of their obnoxiously loud shutters and
slapping mirrors.


If you weren't a stupid troll you'd know that ALL photography is
banned at live performances because the material and the performance
is copyrighted.

--
Ray Fischer


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Old February 2nd 10, 04:45 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
John McWilliams
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tony cooper wrote:
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:00:12 -0600, Dale Greene
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:44:12 -0500, tony cooper
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:05:47 -0600, Dale Greene
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 09:31:13 -0800, Jürgen Exner
wrote:

"Pete" wrote:
I've watched people taking pictures on advanced looking, medium sized, and
expensive all-in-ones, of large vessels about 200m away - the flash fires on
every shot. I try not to be judgemental therefore possibilities include: the
flash guide number is higher than I thought possible; instruction books are
too difficult to read; common sense is not important; I have much to learn.
Out of those, only the last one is a certainty.
I have seen people trying to illuminate Mt. Rainier
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt_Rainier) from 10 miles away using the
build-in flash of a P&S: "Why is the picture so dark? I thought the
flash fired, didn't it?"

jue
What's even worse are all those idiots with D/SLRs that have ruined
everyone's chance of taking pictures of stage-plays, concerts, operas, and
all other live performances because of their obnoxiously loud shutters and
slapping mirrors. Not to mention them having to obstruct everyone's view
and become an obstacle hazard with their heavy and large tripods everywhere
they go. Luckily most places for public performances have management smart
enough to allow P&S cameras in because they know the sound from them won't
disturb anyone and destroy everyone's performance that they paid for, like
a DSLR owner will always do, whether you want them to or not. Stupid DSLR
owners always ruin it for EVERYONE.

Just the opposite...it's the P&S shooters who have no way to turn off
the flash, or no knowledge of how to turn off the flash, that ruin
live performances. Dslr shooters know how to shoot without flash at
higher ISO settings.

I guess that's why D/SLRs are banned at most every public event today and
hardly anyone cares if anyone brings in a P&S camera.


I don't know if dslrs are banned in any public events, but - if so -
its for a different reason. A dslr hanging around someone's neck can
be a dangerous thing in a crowd. It can bang the head of the person
sitting in the row ahead of you.

Where dslrs are banned its more likely that all cameras are banned,
and people carry in p&s's in their pockets and the event staff doesn't
know they are being brought in.

Many theaters I've been to that offer live events (plays and such)
have notice boards up that flash photography is prohibited. Often an
announcement to this effect if made before the play starts. The
announcement doesn't ban cameras...just the use of flash. Other
theaters ban photography. Period. They don't care what type of
camera is involved.

I have never been to an event where dslrs were specifically banned and
p&s cameras were permitted.

It wouldn't bother any of you if this weren't true.


You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the ass.


That's pretty much why many of us don't reply to the nym=shifter.
Although he knows the truth, he states the opposite. He's clever, but
has a hate for something unknown. And a lot of time to troll, bait, and
pest us.

--
john mcwilliams

Never noun verbs!
 




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