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  #31  
Old November 12th 20, 11:48 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,rec.photo.digital,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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Default Google Photos will end its free unlimited storage on June 1st, 2021

In article , Ant
wrote:


Ugh. Is there a list of USB HDDs that have and don't have SATA interfaces?


check the relevant disk drive forums. it's mainly a few 2.5" drives.


Which ones? Maybe someone should do the same in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage and comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage
newsgroups too which I prefer!


there's a couple of reddit subs about shucking and it gets discussed on
other hardware related forums too.

the easiest way is search on the part number.
  #32  
Old November 13th 20, 12:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,rec.photo.digital,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 14:09:46 -0600, Ant wrote:

Apple being able to decrypt iCloud backups is not them not being
encrypted at all.


I'm not even surprised.


Hi Ant,

It's demeaning for me to even have to explain this to you about Alan Baker.

You're not an apologist so I have to warn you that you're dealing with Alan
Baker, who is so incomprehensibly stupid that it's hard to fathom people
like that actually exist (i.e., classic Dunning Kruger Quadrant 1).

Given Alan Baker is an Apple Type III apologist par excellence, his entire
self worth is wrapped up in Apple MARKETING mantra, such that he can't
comprehend that Apple routinely decrypts _every_ single file uploaded.

Alan Baker is so stupid that he claims this isn't the case where it's easy
to prove Alan never even read the thread's cites, all of which come from
extremely reliable sources (and which Apple themselves do not deny).

My main caution in telling you this is that if you try to interact with
Alan Baker, you have to realize almost everything, if not every single
thing he claims, is always dead wrong.

All the Type III apologists are that petrifyingly stupid, sadly to say.
o Why are apologists like Alan Baker so fantastically immune to basics skills an adult should have on the Internet?
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/EiNl6hyMBDo

Having gone to the best schools in this country, and having retired from
decades of Silicon Valley startups, I would have thought people as
petrifyingly shockingly unbelievably stupid as Alan Baker _always_ proves
to be would have been worked out of the species by now.

Rest assured, nothing Alan claims is ever correct - he simply denies
everything he doesn't like _without_ even reading _any_ of the cites.

Read the thread from JF Mezei (which contains _plenty_ of reliable sources)
and make up your own mind - but please don't insult the rest of us by
responding to Alan Baker as if a single thing he has ever said is fact.

Just don't.
It's demeaning for me to even have to explain this to you about Alan Baker.
--
This week in the news November 12, 2020:
"[Judge] Gonzalez Rogers told [Apple], You can't just say it - you
actually have to have facts that support it, and you don't."

o Federal Judge Tosses Apple Counterclaims Against Fortnite Maker
https://www.courthousenews.com/judge-tosses-apple-counterclaims-against-fortnite-maker/
  #33  
Old November 13th 20, 01:11 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,rec.photo.digital,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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On 12 Nov 2020 22:47:47 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

I'm not even surprised.


There's nothing "surprising" or even "concerning" about it. It's yet
another lame non-issue raised by clueless Apple haters.


IMHO, Apple sold their customers' privacy down the river to Google.

Do any of these Type III apologists (e.g., Joerg Lorenz, Alan Baker, Lewis,
Jolly Roger, et al.) notice that about a fifth of Apple's total revenue is
from selling out their customers to Google (which is also Google's _largest
single payment yearly)?

Details he
o Google Pays Apple $8-12 Billion Per Year to be Default iOS Search Engine
https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/yU6d7f670Ho

"Apple now receives an estimated $8 billion to $12 billion in annual
payments, up from $1 billion a year in 2014, in exchange for
building Google's search engine into its products."

"It is probably the single biggest payment that Google makes to anyone
and accounts for 14 to 21 percent of Apple's annual profits."

o Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/25/technology/apple-google-search-antitrust.html
--
Bringing FACTS to all the Usenet ngs, even the child-like Apple newsgroups.
  #34  
Old November 13th 20, 01:11 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,rec.photo.digital,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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On 12 Nov 2020 19:59:21 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

*Everything put to the iCloud is read _and_ analyzed by Apple*
o Some of that is _automatically_ sent to law enforcement, unencrypted.


Cite, please!


You'll get no objective evidence to back up this asinine assertion,
because: troll.


o Apple has confirmed it's automatically scanning images backed up to iCloud
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/VkODI4K1SC8

Adults on this newsgroup will note that all these Type III Apple
Apologists, e.g., Jolly Roger, Lewis, Alan Baker, Joerg Lorenz, etc.,
literally _hate_ what Apple does so much they deny all facts about Apple.

o Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusive-idUSKBN1ZK1CT

Like flat earth cultists, Type III apologists simply deny the facts exist.

o Apple scans photos to check for child abuse
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/01/08/apple-scans-icloud-photos-check-child-abuse/

And yet, the facts exist to all but the apologists (as usual).
o Apple doesn't even dispute those facts.

It's only the Apple Apologists (who didn't even read the thread) who
dispute the facts were indisputable in the cites (Apple said they do it).

Details here (which the Type III apologists deny sans even reading):
o iCloud backups are NOT encrypted, by JF Mezei
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/-EA9TYUeVhk

Note: That thread contains the cites to reliable sources that the
apologists are clueless about because these Type III apologists are in
Quadrant I Dunning Kruger (they don't need any facts to form their belief
system which they're so very sure of, and yet, they're always dead wrong).
--
The Apple apologists simply deny all facts about Apple they don't like.

Why?
I don't know why.

I suspect they _hate_ what Apple is so by denying facts, they can maintain
their purely imaginary belief systems intact (like flat earth cultists).
  #35  
Old November 13th 20, 01:17 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,rec.photo.digital,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Arlen Holder
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Default Google Photos will end its free unlimited storage on June 1st, 2021

On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 09:01:42 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

UPDATE (dated today):
o Search warrant shows how Apple tackles [scanning] images on iCloud and email
https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/11/child-abuse-images/

This article has additional details as to what Apple's process might be.


On 12 Nov 2020 19:59:21 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

*Everything put to the iCloud is read _and_ analyzed by Apple*
o Some of that is _automatically_ sent to law enforcement, unencrypted.


Cite, please!


You'll get no objective evidence to back up this asinine assertion,
because: troll.


o Apple has confirmed it's automatically scanning images backed up to
iCloud
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/VkODI4K1SC8

Adults on this newsgroup will note that all these Type III Apple
Apologists, e.g., Jolly Roger, Lewis, Alan Baker, Joerg Lorenz, etc.,
literally _hate_ what Apple does so much they deny all facts about Apple.

o Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusive-idUSKBN1ZK1CT

Like flat earth cultists, Type III apologists simply deny the facts exist.

o Apple scans photos to check for child abuse
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/01/08/apple-scans-icloud-photos-check-child-abuse/

And yet, the facts exist to all but the apologists (as usual).
o Apple doesn't even dispute those facts.

It's only the Apple Apologists (who didn't even read the thread) who
dispute the facts were indisputable in the cites (Apple said they do it).

Details here (which the Type III apologists deny sans even reading):
o iCloud backups are NOT encrypted, by JF Mezei
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/-EA9TYUeVhk

Note: That thread contains the cites to reliable sources that the
apologists are clueless about because these Type III apologists are in
Quadrant I Dunning Kruger (they don't need any facts to form their belief
system which they're so very sure of, and yet, they're always dead wrong).
--
The Apple apologists simply deny all facts about Apple they don't like.

Why?
I don't know why.

I suspect they _hate_ what Apple is so by denying facts, they can maintain
their purely imaginary belief systems intact (like flat earth cultists).
  #36  
Old November 13th 20, 01:18 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,rec.photo.digital,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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On 2020-11-12 4:11 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
On 12 Nov 2020 19:59:21 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

*Everything put to the iCloud is read _and_ analyzed by Apple*
o Some of that is _automatically_ sent to law enforcement, unencrypted.

Cite, please!


You'll get no objective evidence to back up this asinine assertion,
because: troll.


o Apple has confirmed it's automatically scanning images backed up to iCloud
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/VkODI4K1SC8


Even if you're correct about them scanning images, images are hardly
"everything".

Oh, and your source explicitly says they're not "reading" your photos,
but applying a hashing function to compare them against the hashes of
known images of child sexual abuse:

'Since 2008, the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children
(NCMEC) has made available a list of hash values for known child sexual
abuse images, provided by ISPs, that enables companies to check large
volumes of files for matches without those companies themselves having
to keep copies of offending images.'

And they're doing so while keeping the images themselves encrypted:

'Recent advances in encryption and hashing mean that technologies like
PhotoDNA can operate within a service with end-to-end encryption.
Certain types of encryption algorithms, known as partially or fully
homomorphic, can perform image hashing on encrypted data. This means
that images in encrypted messages can be checked against known harmful
material without Facebook or anyone else being able to decrypt the
image. This analysis provides no information about an image’s contents,
preserving privacy, unless it is a known image of child sexual abuse.'

You lose.
  #37  
Old November 13th 20, 01:18 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,rec.photo.digital,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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Default Google Photos will end its free unlimited storage on June 1st,2021

On 2020-11-12 4:11 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
On 12 Nov 2020 22:47:47 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

I'm not even surprised.


There's nothing "surprising" or even "concerning" about it. It's yet
another lame non-issue raised by clueless Apple haters.


IMHO, Apple sold their customers' privacy down the river to Google.


Note the way Arlen has snipped that this sub-thread was about encryption
of iCloud backups...
  #38  
Old November 13th 20, 01:19 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,rec.photo.digital,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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Default Google Photos will end its free unlimited storage on June 1st,2021

On 2020-11-12 4:17 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 09:01:42 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

UPDATE (dated today):
o Search warrant shows how Apple tackles [scanning] images on iCloud and email
https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/11/child-abuse-images/

This article has additional details as to what Apple's process might be.


On 12 Nov 2020 19:59:21 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

*Everything put to the iCloud is read _and_ analyzed by Apple*
o Some of that is _automatically_ sent to law enforcement, unencrypted.

Cite, please!


You'll get no objective evidence to back up this asinine assertion,
because: troll.


o Apple has confirmed it's automatically scanning images backed up to
iCloud
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/VkODI4K1SC8


A lie.

Plain and simple.
  #39  
Old November 13th 20, 01:33 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,rec.photo.digital,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 16:21:03 -0600, Ant wrote:

Which ones? Maybe someone should do the same in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage and comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage
newsgroups too which I prefer!


See also this thread:
o Comparison of the hundred dollar Costco Seagate 5TB USB & 8TB USB HDD on sale now
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage/c/nXXYOAypvqs

In these dejagoogle archives:
o http://tinyurl.com/comp-sys-mac-hardware-storage
o https://tinyurl.com/sys-ibm-pc-hardware-storage (30 char limit)
  #40  
Old November 13th 20, 04:56 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,rec.photo.digital,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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Ant wrote:
In comp.mobile.android nospam wrote:
In article , Ant
wrote:


For a while Best Buy had 8TB WD Red drives inside a USB housing for that
price or less. Maybe last Black Friday. Remove it from the housing
and you had a really nice internal drive.
Be careful doing that these days. Some of the external drives have the
USB controller built onto the PCB with no SATA interface available to
the user.
Ugh. Is there a list of USB HDDs that have and don't have SATA interfaces?


check the relevant disk drive forums. it's mainly a few 2.5" drives.


Which ones? Maybe someone should do the same in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage and comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage
newsgroups too which I prefer!


The 15mm thick 2.5" drives for a start.

There's no reason for them to have a SATA connector,
because they're not to be offered to the retail
market as internal drives.

Those are an orphan product used only within 2.5"
external drives.

The 3.5" drives are still "suitable" for usage in
external housings or as raw drive mechanisms for
the retail market.

The 8TB drive in question, has a visual hint. It has
two USB connectors on the front. And one USB on the back.
This suggests a separate PCB to house the hub function.
It makes sense then, to also have a SATA to USB function
on the (separate) adapter board too (hub chip, converter chip).

But before getting too excited, the seagate drive is:

1) SMR (the good kind is PMR)
2) 120MB/sec ("hello to year 2007" or so, this is the SMR rate)
3) *Could* have aggressive spindown behavior.
Requires a tester to test. Without spindown the
drive could overheat.

Paul
 




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