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Old October 21st 15, 12:51 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default OSX Photos, and the worst of all things preceeding it

On 10/20/2015 6:23 PM, nospam wrote:
In article ,
Sandman wrote:


So Photos - still a huge disappointment for us that know that Apple knows how to
make a kickass photo management application. Bleh.


you're not its target market.


OMG, nospam made a sensible remark.

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Old October 21st 15, 01:30 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default OSX Photos, and the worst of all things preceeding it

In article ,
nospam wrote:

In article 2015102015451228245-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

So Photos - still a huge disappointment for us that know that Apple
knows how to make a kickass photo management application. Bleh.

you're not its target market.


What market? Its target is every OSX user. It is free and an integrated
part of OSX. If you are an OSX user you are going to have it on your
computer even if you don't want it. Then you have to employ avoidance
tactics to stop it from intruding where it is not needed.


the target market is casual users who do not need the power and
capabilities of a pro-level product.

those who want something more capable can buy lightroom or something
else that better fits their needs.

expecting apple to include something on the level of lightroom or
aperture with every mac entirely for free is ludicrous.

The truth is, it is a huge disapointment given that Apple once had a
very good pro level application in Aperture and **** canned it. For
those of us who are LR users, we lucked out, now Photos is just an
irritation like a chronic rash.


aperture wasn't included with every mac.

apple killed aperture because it was a market failure. it should not be
a big surprise that a product that does not sell well is discontinued.


Aperture was a failure because it is so incredibly buggy. It's slower
than the RAW photo editor I use on my cellphone. It crashes every few
minutes. Preview and high quality renders are misaligned. Noise
reduction doesn't work. High ISO RAW produces strange hues. Some
combinations of adjustments produce garbage pixels. It's version-locked
to Mac OS.

The Adobe side of things is no better and their GUI looks like an X
Windows app straight out of 1989. I've been struggling with the horrid
workflow of Canon DPP simply because it renders accurately without
crashing. I'm going to buy some new photo software as soon as I get a
new Linux box.

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Old October 21st 15, 01:40 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default OSX Photos, and the worst of all things preceeding it

In article , Kevin
McMurtrie wrote:

apple killed aperture because it was a market failure. it should not be
a big surprise that a product that does not sell well is discontinued.


Aperture was a failure because it is so incredibly buggy. It's slower
than the RAW photo editor I use on my cellphone. It crashes every few
minutes. Preview and high quality renders are misaligned. Noise
reduction doesn't work. High ISO RAW produces strange hues. Some
combinations of adjustments produce garbage pixels. It's version-locked
to Mac OS.

The Adobe side of things is no better and their GUI looks like an X
Windows app straight out of 1989. I've been struggling with the horrid
workflow of Canon DPP simply because it renders accurately without
crashing. I'm going to buy some new photo software as soon as I get a
new Linux box.


nonsense.
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Old October 21st 15, 02:35 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Kevin McMurtrie:

It's all about the walled garden and making life stupid-simple.


MSOffice, Adobe CC and other world-class graphics applications,
world-class software for publishing, biotechnology, aerospace, physics,
astronomy... The only wall I have noticed is the one that keeps malware
out.

Apple will slowly seal itself off from the rest of the world and
collapse into a small invisible cult...


O, no! We have to go back to calling it "beleaguered Apple" again!

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Old October 21st 15, 08:08 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article ,
PeterN wrote:

On 10/20/2015 6:23 PM, nospam wrote:
In article ,
Sandman wrote:


So Photos - still a huge disappointment for us that know that Apple knows
how to
make a kickass photo management application. Bleh.


you're not its target market.


OMG, nospam made a sensible remark.


Sandy buys expensive equipment from Apple Corp... Shouldn't he find joy
in the throw alongs? ;-p
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Old October 21st 15, 08:09 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article ,
Kevin McMurtrie wrote:

It's all about the walled garden and making life stupid-simple.


No... It's about making stupid living simple.

I
figure Apple will slowly seal itself off from the rest of the world and
collapse into a small invisible cult. It's a shame because there was a
time when Apple was the champion of open standards and simple
interconnectivity.

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Old October 21st 15, 10:33 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , nospam wrote:

Sandman:
So Photos - still a huge disappointment for us that know that
Apple knows how to make a kickass photo management application.
Bleh.


you're not its target market.


So why did you say this:

"what's known about photos is *very* promising."
/ nospam- 12/09/2014

Promising to whom? And also:

"non-destructive plug-ins is *extremely* powerful."
/ nospam- 12/09/2014

They would be, if they existed like you claimed over and over they would. But
they don't, like I said all along.

"apple has said that plugins will be non-destructive. end of
story."
/ nospam- 02/07/2015

You never could point to where exactly they had said that though.

"plugins will be non-destructive."
/ nospam- 02/09/2015

That didn't deter you from making empty claims.

Also, you were pretty adamant about Adobe being scared about Photos, and your own
hopes for Photos were extremely high and how it would leave Lightroom "in the
dust":

"everyone is focused (pun intended) on the end of aperture
rather than the beginning of what may turn out to be a
*much* better app that could leave lightroom in the dust."

"even adobe knows it and they're scared. why do you think
they're 'doubling down' when their only competitor on the
mac just called it quits??"
/ nospam- 06/30/2014

In the end, Apple came up with a POS that leaves nothing in the dust, but is left
in the dust itself by every single photo management application known to mankind.

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Old October 21st 15, 10:36 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default OSX Photos, and the worst of all things preceeding it

In article , Kevin McMurtrie
wrote:

It's all about the walled garden and making life stupid-simple.


There is no supposed "walled garden" in Photos, but it is being overly simplistic
and a poor replacement for iPhoto.

I figure Apple will slowly seal itself off from the rest of the
world and collapse into a small invisible cult.


Haha, wishful thinking at its best.


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Old October 21st 15, 10:41 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default OSX Photos, and the worst of all things preceeding it

In article 2015102014082194537-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, Savageduck wrote:

Sandman:
So with El Capitan, Photos for the Mac is finally more or less
"done". And what did we get? Well, pretty much nothing. Photo
management for kids, perhaps.


apple was done with any sort of professional photo management and
editing software when they suspended develoment on Aperture.


Yeah, but I secretly hoped that some of the people that was hoping for Photos to
be good to be right, and I'm disappointed at how big of a POS it turned out to
be.

For anybody involved in serious photo asset management and editing
Photos is a sad joke, and nothing is going to save it, certainly not
any extensions forced to run on a POS.


Well, while there are some things in the application that is sorely lacking out
side of photo *editing*, I think that had the extensions been seemlessly inte
grated into the editing pipeline and indeed had been non-destructive, it would
suddenly be a whole other deal.

Today you have the color, brightness and black&white control, and you can add
more controls to the adjustment chain. If extensions were loaded this way, and
edited this way, then it could have been quite powerful.

While Jon Ive did great things for Apple with the iPod, and iPhone,
in the post-Jobs era, his minimalist philosophy has seriously
damaged many other aspects of the Apple product range including
Photos, which is aimed at the iPhone, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter
clientele.


Indeed.

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Old October 21st 15, 10:41 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default OSX Photos, and the worst of all things preceeding it

In article ,
Sandman wrote:

In article , Kevin McMurtrie
wrote:

It's all about the walled garden and making life stupid-simple.


There is no supposed "walled garden" in Photos, but it is being overly
simplistic
and a poor replacement for iPhoto.

I figure Apple will slowly seal itself off from the rest of the
world and collapse into a small invisible cult.


Haha, wishful thinking at its best.


Haven't you seen the new "campus" previews? Looks like an Apple without
a core to me...
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