Adobe - Photoshop and their "Subscriptions"

I have been a Photoshop user since the very first release of the
software for the PC way back in what, 1990? 1994?? Both personal and
at all of the screenprinting companies I managed over the years and
right up to my own personal photography work. I looked at GIMP once,
Same with COREL..... and a few other wannabe's.

Through all the years I've been a loyal Adobe customer and never
really considered anything else as the Photoshop products always did
well for me.

Over the weekend I purchased a Nikon D3200 camera. This camera uses
NEF-Compressed RAW format. I use Photoshop CS3 mostly out of laziness
in updating. Also though there is the cost with seeming annual
upgrades. CS3 did everything I need it to do so if it ain't broken
don't fix it.

My research and updating of CS3 let to naught as those of you in the
"know" will nod your heads to. So I figured I would call Adobe and
learn what the cost would be to upgrade.

Imagine my surprise when I learned of Adobe's current Subscription
demands to have the privilege of using their products.

I understand some Harvard MBA's brilliant idea in try to develop a
"locked in" customer base. I mean isn't that what every business
wants? A SECURE market share! I understand some Fisk Economics PhD
coming up with the idea that a steady flow of cash would be far easier
to manage than the normal ebb and flow of cash trending. It cuts into
your sailing and golf time to actually have to MANAGE your cash flow
doesn't it?

So now I am faced now with being a long time and loyal customer of yet
another economic STEAMROLLER in the form of a massive corporation that
begs for my hard earned $$$ without wanting to work as hard at
customer SERVICE as I must in MY business.

This locked in customer base, whether it is a 2 year cell phone
CONTRACT or an ongoing subscription for the privilege of using Adobe's
products is, in my humble Opinion complete and utter bull****.

Let's try this concept: Develop a Superior Product. Sell it at a fair
market price by BUILDING VALUE in your product. THEN secure your
market share through EXEMPLARY customer service and support! THAT is
how you build a LOYAL customer base and market share!

In short I would like all these overpaid MBA's to go a little OLD
SCHOOL and learn what CUSTOMER SATISFACTION is all about and what
satisfied customers mean to the health of a major company. Didn't they
teach you in your MBA classes that Loyal customers grow from HAPPY and
PLEASED buyers that perceive VALUE form the spending of their hard
earned dollars on your products!

That's not good enough for the Marketing Gestapo today though. They
know that the state of customer service in America today is pathetic!
They KNOW they cannot compete toe to toe AND **** off their clientele
with crappy service! So, they figure a captive clientele is better.

No It's not! Now I find alternatives to Photoshop. When I leave a
company with my loyalty crapped on...I will never go back.

This is going to hurt Adobe badly...... Oh and the ONLY people diving
feet first into this CLOUD bull**** like Adobe and every other company
is touting so heavily.......is the WORST idea EVER. You might as well
give your sensitive information to the Taliban!

Farewell Adobe...... It's been nice but I'm done with y'all!

In article ,
wrote:

I have been a Photoshop user since the very first release of the
software for the PC way back in what, 1990? 1994?? Both personal and
at all of the screenprinting companies I managed over the years and
right up to my own personal photography work. I looked at GIMP once,
Same with COREL..... and a few other wannabe's.

Through all the years I've been a loyal Adobe customer and never
really considered anything else as the Photoshop products always did
well for me.

Over the weekend I purchased a Nikon D3200 camera. This camera uses
NEF-Compressed RAW format. I use Photoshop CS3 mostly out of laziness
in updating. Also though there is the cost with seeming annual
upgrades. CS3 did everything I need it to do so if it ain't broken
don't fix it.

if cs3 was doing everything you needed all this time, then you don't
need to update to cs6 or creative cloud.

photoshop elements for $60 is all you need.

rest of your rant snipped.

On 2013.06.03 19:19 , wrote:

Over the weekend I purchased a Nikon D3200 camera. This camera uses
NEF-Compressed RAW format. I use Photoshop CS3 mostly out of laziness
in updating. Also though there is the cost with seeming annual
upgrades. CS3 did everything I need it to do so if it ain't broken
don't fix it.

I didn't read most of your rant but here's what you do:

1. Get the free Adobe DNGConverter to convert your raw files to DNG.

2. Keep using CS3 as before.

--
"A Canadian is someone who knows how to have sex in a canoe."
-Pierre Berton

In article , Alan Browne
wrote:

Over the weekend I purchased a Nikon D3200 camera. This camera uses
NEF-Compressed RAW format. I use Photoshop CS3 mostly out of laziness
in updating. Also though there is the cost with seeming annual
upgrades. CS3 did everything I need it to do so if it ain't broken
don't fix it.

I didn't read most of your rant but here's what you do:

1. Get the free Adobe DNGConverter to convert your raw files to DNG.

2. Keep using CS3 as before.

that also works.

On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 20:16:22 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2013.06.03 19:19 , wrote:

Over the weekend I purchased a Nikon D3200 camera. This camera uses
NEF-Compressed RAW format. I use Photoshop CS3 mostly out of laziness
in updating. Also though there is the cost with seeming annual
upgrades. CS3 did everything I need it to do so if it ain't broken
don't fix it.

I didn't read most of your rant but here's what you do:

1. Get the free Adobe DNGConverter to convert your raw files to DNG.

2. Keep using CS3 as before.

Thank you both very much. Sorry about the rant.... Been months since I
had a good one and that certainly did not qualify as a good one.
However I am disapointed in Adobe. Actually I started out just to say
I thought this was going to hurt them. Also, this is what I get for
having lived in a cave for a couple of years.

Elements you say? Hummm. DNG. Had not gotten that far into the problem
solving. Been to enraptured with the new camera. You both have,
magnanimously given me a couple of directions to pursue. Thank you for
your generosity and for mercifully snipping the rest of a poor rant
aired in the wrong place.

On 2013.06.03 20:45 , wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 20:16:22 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2013.06.03 19:19 , wrote:

Over the weekend I purchased a Nikon D3200 camera. This camera uses
NEF-Compressed RAW format. I use Photoshop CS3 mostly out of laziness
in updating. Also though there is the cost with seeming annual
upgrades. CS3 did everything I need it to do so if it ain't broken
don't fix it.

I didn't read most of your rant but here's what you do:

1. Get the free Adobe DNGConverter to convert your raw files to DNG.

2. Keep using CS3 as before.

Thank you both very much. Sorry about the rant.... Been months since I
had a good one and that certainly did not qualify as a good one.
However I am disapointed in Adobe. Actually I started out just to say
I thought this was going to hurt them. Also, this is what I get for
having lived in a cave for a couple of years.

Elements you say?

I didn't say Elements at all.

I said: 1) Get the free DNG converter and 2) _continue_ using CS3 with
the DNG files instead of the NEF.

--
"A Canadian is someone who knows how to have sex in a canoe."
-Pierre Berton

In article , Alan Browne
wrote:

Over the weekend I purchased a Nikon D3200 camera. This camera uses
NEF-Compressed RAW format. I use Photoshop CS3 mostly out of laziness
in updating. Also though there is the cost with seeming annual
upgrades. CS3 did everything I need it to do so if it ain't broken
don't fix it.

I didn't read most of your rant but here's what you do:

1. Get the free Adobe DNGConverter to convert your raw files to DNG.

2. Keep using CS3 as before.

Thank you both very much. Sorry about the rant.... Been months since I
had a good one and that certainly did not qualify as a good one.
However I am disapointed in Adobe. Actually I started out just to say
I thought this was going to hurt them. Also, this is what I get for
having lived in a cave for a couple of years.

Elements you say?

I didn't say Elements at all.

i suggested elements.

I said: 1) Get the free DNG converter and 2) _continue_ using CS3 with
the DNG files instead of the NEF.

the most recent version of elements will be far more convenient than
that.

however, dng converter is free.

On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 18:18:37 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Alan Browne
wrote:

Over the weekend I purchased a Nikon D3200 camera. This camera uses
NEF-Compressed RAW format. I use Photoshop CS3 mostly out of laziness
in updating. Also though there is the cost with seeming annual
upgrades. CS3 did everything I need it to do so if it ain't broken
don't fix it.

I didn't read most of your rant but here's what you do:

1. Get the free Adobe DNGConverter to convert your raw files to DNG.

2. Keep using CS3 as before.

Thank you both very much. Sorry about the rant.... Been months since I
had a good one and that certainly did not qualify as a good one.
However I am disapointed in Adobe. Actually I started out just to say
I thought this was going to hurt them. Also, this is what I get for
having lived in a cave for a couple of years.

Elements you say?

I didn't say Elements at all.

i suggested elements.

I said: 1) Get the free DNG converter and 2) _continue_ using CS3 with
the DNG files instead of the NEF.

the most recent version of elements will be far more convenient than
that.

however, dng converter is free.

Yes, I was recognizing both your early contributions.....and
overlooking my rudeness.

I used Elements back in it's very first iteration. However I also had
Photoshop and used it heavily in the printing industry so it seemed
redundant back then and I have not kept uip with it having stuck with
PS all along.

So, I am now venturing outside my comfort zone and "broadening my
horizons" as my anger management obsessive girlfriend constantly
reminds me. Let's just face it...Old men do not like change! At least
I don't...

I am going to grab the DNG converter tonight. Thanks much both of
ya's.

In article ,
Alan Browne wrote:

1. Get the free Adobe DNGConverter to convert your raw files to DNG.

2. Keep using CS3 as before.

FWIW, I didn't like what DNG did to the image quality of some of my
Olympus OM-D pictures.

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In article , Paul Ciszek
wrote:

FWIW, I didn't like what DNG did to the image quality of some of my
Olympus OM-D pictures.

converting to dng didn't do that. what you did afterwards might have,
however.