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"Skip M" wrote in message
news:xQqud.622$2r.171@fed1read02... "me" wrote in message ... "Skip M" wrote in message news:Wypud.604$2r.560@fed1read02... "me" wrote in message ... "Skip M" wrote in message news:7fpud.603$2r.527@fed1read02... "me" wrote in message ... Who gives a dam what you do? Film is better no matter how hard some people try not to accept it! me It looks like you're getting a little desperate to not accept the idea that digital has caught up with film, in fact did so some time ago, and in some cases, surpasses it. That is the mantra of digital dullards in every NG. Film; do I have to say it? me I'll tell you what, show me some of your work. And look at mine and tell me which is digital and which is film. And not on my website. I'll mail you prints. As long as you mail me some, too. Like I said, I shoot both. If you don't like digital, what are you doing posting to the digital NG? Take yourself out of the conversation, and be secure in your own little world. Photography rules, no matter how you do it... I posted in rec.photo.equipment.35mm, a photography NG about film cameras. I guess your, in that special ed NG for digital dullards. :-) Film; I won't say it because Skippy gets upset :-( me I haven't noticed you posting much of use over here, either... Work on those reading skills. You appear to be having trouble making up your mind, a minute ago you said you were done with me. Still don't want to compare images? I'm waiting... You *ass*ume incorrectly that I feel a need to prove something to you, I do not. You have a need to prove something to me, which you can not. Film, rules |
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wrote:
snip So that is MY personal experience, Jon. Why don't you tell us all about your ACTUAL experience with this stuff..? How about some examples of your work, or a rundown on your involvement in this, rather than just endless argument? - you seem very shy when that request comes up... Why is that? Like I said, here's a quick afternoon of *my* work when I tried out a new camera - warts and all.. http://community.webshots.com/album/131033374bWiBJm I'd hate to be called a hypocrite.. (O; Nice things there, chrlz (Is that pronounced "Churls"? (My inner ear needs something to process when my eye sees something) You don't expect us to take your opinions seriously just because you are a careful thinker and an accomplished photographer, do you? -- Frank ess |
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"Jon Pike" posted:
"... Yes, but, since you seem to have come into this thread rather late in the game, I'll give you a touch of background. Someone asked about the whether 8mp digital had "theoretical equivalent resolution" to 35mm film. From there Roger N. Clark posted a bunch of very wide ranging statements based on his 'tests.' I pointed out that his tests were severely flawed from many aspects, and he used his claim to having been an editor for a scientific journal for many years as a trump card, rather than actually answer any of the questions I was asking. ...." First: The "points" you tried to point out are and were wrong. And so are the points you are trying to make in your idiotic thread on "12-Stop Film." Second: You ... "Jon Pike" ... have behaved like a little spoiled whiney brat ... or at best, a second-semester college kid who's just finished the Basic Optics portion of his Beginning College Physics course ... and is now trying to argue the finer points of optics and photography with the head of the Physics Department. You should be shutting up and learning. Third: Roger N. Clark has a very well established reputation in the real-world scientific imaging community, **and** in this and several other USENET groups. Just in case you haven't noticed ... He was awarded his Ph.D. from MIT before you were even a friggin' glimmer in your father's eye. Fourth: Next, I suggest that **you** read through http://clarkvision.com/rnc/ http://www.brc.tamus.edu/rs2k/clark.html and then do a Boolean web search (using Google, if you are not familiar with some of the other and better Search Engines) on the string "Roger N. Clark" and cassini Fifth: YOU ... "Jon Pike" ... are nothing more than a really screwed up TROLL. Sixth: PLONK Bye-Bye Idiot. |
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"Jon Pike" posted:
"... Yes, but, since you seem to have come into this thread rather late in the game, I'll give you a touch of background. Someone asked about the whether 8mp digital had "theoretical equivalent resolution" to 35mm film. From there Roger N. Clark posted a bunch of very wide ranging statements based on his 'tests.' I pointed out that his tests were severely flawed from many aspects, and he used his claim to having been an editor for a scientific journal for many years as a trump card, rather than actually answer any of the questions I was asking. ...." First: The "points" you tried to point out are and were wrong. And so are the points you are trying to make in your idiotic thread on "12-Stop Film." Second: You ... "Jon Pike" ... have behaved like a little spoiled whiney brat ... or at best, a second-semester college kid who's just finished the Basic Optics portion of his Beginning College Physics course ... and is now trying to argue the finer points of optics and photography with the head of the Physics Department. You should be shutting up and learning. Third: Roger N. Clark has a very well established reputation in the real-world scientific imaging community, **and** in this and several other USENET groups. Just in case you haven't noticed ... He was awarded his Ph.D. from MIT before you were even a friggin' glimmer in your father's eye. Fourth: Next, I suggest that **you** read through http://clarkvision.com/rnc/ http://www.brc.tamus.edu/rs2k/clark.html and then do a Boolean web search (using Google, if you are not familiar with some of the other and better Search Engines) on the string "Roger N. Clark" and cassini Fifth: YOU ... "Jon Pike" ... are nothing more than a really screwed up TROLL. Sixth: PLONK Bye-Bye Idiot. |
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oups.com... And all of those photog's (I know several of them, even though I don't claim to be one myself) Agreed. are leaving it up to you to fight the 'good fight'. None of them are chiming in. (I think we can discount 'me' and 'teflon' as very genuine trolls with nary a reference or coherent thought so far.) **** you, me |
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oups.com... And all of those photog's (I know several of them, even though I don't claim to be one myself) Agreed. are leaving it up to you to fight the 'good fight'. None of them are chiming in. (I think we can discount 'me' and 'teflon' as very genuine trolls with nary a reference or coherent thought so far.) **** you, me |
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"BillB" wrote in message
... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 16:27:20 -0600, me favorite film fan wrote: That is the mantra of digital dullards in every NG. Film; do I have to say it? me Yes. It's very important to keep saying it as loud and as often as possible. Otherwise our collective memory of film will eventually recede to the distant land of the forgotten, where it will join company with brittle 78's and steel record needles, flammable film stock, daguerrotypes, muskets, bathtub gin and the Stanley Steamer. Vo dee oh doh! Turn up that knob on your brain marked intelligence so you can hear me better. Film, it's the best now and will be far into the future! me |
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"BillB" wrote in message
... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 16:27:20 -0600, me favorite film fan wrote: That is the mantra of digital dullards in every NG. Film; do I have to say it? me Yes. It's very important to keep saying it as loud and as often as possible. Otherwise our collective memory of film will eventually recede to the distant land of the forgotten, where it will join company with brittle 78's and steel record needles, flammable film stock, daguerrotypes, muskets, bathtub gin and the Stanley Steamer. Vo dee oh doh! Turn up that knob on your brain marked intelligence so you can hear me better. Film, it's the best now and will be far into the future! me |
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"Carl" wrote in message
... BillB wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 16:27:20 -0600, me favorite film fan-boi wrote: That is the mantra of digital dullards in every NG. Film; do I have to say it? me Yes. It's very important to keep saying it as loud and as often as possible. Otherwise our collective memory of film will eventually recede to the distant land of the forgotten, where it will join company with brittle 78's and steel record needles, flammable film stock, daguerrotypes, muskets, bathtub gin and the Stanley Steamer. Vo dee oh doh! Of course the true purist - which he obviously is not or he would be promoting it, would be advocating the use of the pinhole camera and milk prints. In fact life has never been the same since the invention of the camera obscura and that damned upstart Galileo. The cheek of the man taking a child's toy and turning it a scientific tool. Turn up that knob on your brain marked intelligence so you can hear me better. (ditto for you jackass.) Film, it's the best now and will be far into the future! me |
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