Apple gives a new meaning to solid state.

In article , Eric Stevens wrote:

Sandman:
It is clear from the complete quote that "outlasts" was in
reference to the user replacing the computer. You had to snip
that part out of the quote in order to interprete "outlast" as
the computer "giving up". When you include the entire quote,
one *can not* make that interpretation without looking like a
fool or a troll.

Eric Stevens:
Wouldn't you replace a computer if it had "given up"?

Sandman:
Yes, but that has nothing to do with that we're talking about
here. This is yet another diversion from the troll.

Nonsense

Incorrect.

Sandman:
I would replace a computer that had "given up". That doesn't mean
that every computer I have replaced has "given up"

Nobody is suggesting that.

I wouldn't call Tony "nobody". Maybe "nobody serious" or "nobody
important", but not just "nobody".

Tony Cooper
Apple gives a new meaning to solid state.
11/01/2013

"Replace" is normally used to mean that something will be acquired
that will take the place of something that is no longer functional,
and that thing replaced will be discarded."

Sandman:
Basic logical thinking, Eric. You're struggling to get up but
you've been down for the count for several days now.

Stay down, Eric.



--
Sandman[.net]

In article , Eric Stevens wrote:


Sandman:
Sandman: No, it was at that point Tony introduced the
topic of "Apple batteries" and I called him on it. You
then thought I was the one that had made the distinction
when it was your troll buddy. This blew up in your face as
most things have done lately.

Eric Stevens:
He said "*If* the topic was Apple batteries ... "

Sandman:
Yes, as I said - he brought up the topic of "Apple batteries"
as a diversion.

Eric Stevens:
He brought it up as an example. You made it a topic.

Sandman:
As I said, Tony is the one who brought up "Apple batteries", not
me.

But you didn't say that.

He is the one who brought up the topic of "Apple batteries", yes.

Sandman:
Stop arguing in circles just to keep arguing. The first time
the phrase "Apple batteries" was used in this group *ever* (or
at least in the last two years) was when Tony wrote it in the
post I've quoted.

Eric Stevens:
Words on their own do not make a topic.

Sandman:
Never claimed they did. Just correctly saying that it was Tony who
brought up "Apple batteries", not me. You are confused, and trying
to make this in to a "example" vs "topic" is of no consequence to
your mistake.

You were the one who made it a topic

Incorrect, Tony was the one who brought up "Apple batteries"

Still doing your best to argue on and on and on about the smallest details
you can find? Good job, troll boy.

--
Sandman[.net]

On 11/1/2013 10:53 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

The Wi-Fi only iPad only has a digital compass on board, no GPS
circuitry & and no cell assisted GPS. Adding a GPS app is not going to
help in anyway.

apps don't 'use the gps'. they request location at a certain accuracy.

wifi ipads and ipod touches can provide street level accuracy without a
gps if they're near a wifi network.

Are you saying that I can tether the iPad (none cell version,) to my
personal hotspot?

if your hotspot creates a wifi network, sure.

it's possible that it can get location data too, certainly at the city
level.


The tablet is for my wife, her amusement while I am off shooting. That
way I get more shooting time. The only time she uses the in-car nav is
when I put in a preset location for her.

--
PeterN

In article , Sandman
wrote:


None of the prices I listed where cheap.
None came from the "grey market" as you call it
All were for new parts
All were for Apple original parts.
All were to licensed Apple resellers.

What leads you to believe either of the vendors you link to are
authorized by Apple to sell service components or anything else? It
doesn't say so on their web pages, and Apple dealers are both required
and proud to do so.

If they're NOT Apple authorized (and I'm about 99.5% sure they're not),
then by definition anything Apple you buy from them - aside from used
stuff - is grey market.

What Apple laptop? The trackpad for the Macbook Pro 13" 2012 Retina costs
$90 and you can get one he

Again, confusing official procedures with third party improvisations.
While you may be able to buy the trackpad from third-party vendors,
even I can't buy it from Apple - it's considered too dangerous to
remove the battery to get to the trackpad cable.

I'm not sure what point you're trying so hard to make. I offered to
fill you in on how repair on the newer Apple products goes, and on
Apple service procedures in general. I really can't comment on what
some guy in Cleveland does with parts he bought on the internet.

That said, I've personally dealt with both iFixit and WeLoveMacs;
matter of fact, our shop bought service TOOLS from iFixit because they
were cheaper than direct from Apple. Shops like that have their uses.

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 07:22:07 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

OK, let's say you buy them from Apple's battery maker (or perhaps
another battery maker) who is prepared to make them to exactly the
same specifiations as Apple's batteries, what do think Apple's
reaction woud be?

Hint: think "look and feel".

no they won't.

look and feel lawsuits are about the outside, not the inside.

Dummy! Apple would sue. What else do you expect?

how do you know what they would do in a made up situation?

just because one company designs an internal part that nobody but the
factory or repair shop sees to be the same specs as another company's
part does not mean they'll get sued.

You might believe that. Nobody else will.

Bigger hint. Current Apple laptop batteries have their own processor
and onboard firmware. If you make a compatible, you're going to have to
write your own firmware which interacts with the computer the same, but
does not contain any of the same code. If you DO, and Apple notices,
you're in for a hard time.

Batteries are better than they used to be, but far harder to make
knock-offs.

In article , Scott Schuckert
wrote:

Dummy! Apple would sue. What else do you expect?

how do you know what they would do in a made up situation?

just because one company designs an internal part that nobody but the
factory or repair shop sees to be the same specs as another company's
part does not mean they'll get sued.

You might believe that. Nobody else will.

Bigger hint. Current Apple laptop batteries have their own processor
and onboard firmware. If you make a compatible, you're going to have to
write your own firmware which interacts with the computer the same, but
does not contain any of the same code. If you DO, and Apple notices,
you're in for a hard time.

all lithium ion batteries have a cpu & firmware.

do a clean room design, and they should be fine.

Batteries are better than they used to be, but far harder to make
knock-offs.

hasn't stopped the chinese.

In article , PeterN
wrote:

The tablet is for my wife, her amusement while I am off shooting.

then have her decide what she wants.

That
way I get more shooting time. The only time she uses the in-car nav is
when I put in a preset location for her.

she can't do that herself?

In article , Tony Cooper wrote:

Eric Stevens:
The problem arose from the fact that at the time people didn't
realise they were confused - confused in the sense they took
something other than what you intended from your words. This
only become apparent later.

Sandman:
True - and any normal person would have posted this then:

"Oh, you meant they replace the computer, haha, I thought you
meant it broke down, my mistakes, sorry!"

Normal adults don't write "haha".

This is your best comeback, Tony? You behave like a pubescent troll for
days and then your only defense for your childish behaviour is that someone
*else* have written the letters "haha"? Is this what you've sunk to?

It is to be expected though - most children when their stupid behaviour is
being pointed out will instantly go and point to someone else and say "But
HE did something else" instead of just accepting that they've been an
asshole and be done with it. You are that type of child, Tony.

Now, ignore this and go away with the tail between your legs, like you've
been forced to do so many times in this matter.




--
Sandman[.net]

On 11/2/2013 10:36 AM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 09:25:00 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 11/1/2013 10:53 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

The Wi-Fi only iPad only has a digital compass on board, no GPS
circuitry & and no cell assisted GPS. Adding a GPS app is not going to
help in anyway.

apps don't 'use the gps'. they request location at a certain accuracy.

wifi ipads and ipod touches can provide street level accuracy without a
gps if they're near a wifi network.

Are you saying that I can tether the iPad (none cell version,) to my
personal hotspot?

if your hotspot creates a wifi network, sure.

it's possible that it can get location data too, certainly at the city
level.


The tablet is for my wife, her amusement while I am off shooting. That
way I get more shooting time. The only time she uses the in-car nav is
when I put in a preset location for her.

It seems that your wife is amused less expensively than mine. I went
off shooting yesterday and came home to find a note that my wife had
hied off to Bloomingdale's for a sale on sheets.



Not always true. photo trips have been known to end at the shopping
mall. But, both of us are getting off cheap, compared to one of my club
members. His wife enourges spending on cameras, and has been known to
order new cameras and lenses for him. She gets equivalent value in jewelry.

--
PeterN

On 11/2/2013 12:12 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

The tablet is for my wife, her amusement while I am off shooting.

then have her decide what she wants.

She did.


That
way I get more shooting time. The only time she uses the in-car nav is
when I put in a preset location for her.

she can't do that herself?

She won't learn how to use it.

--
PeterN