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On 4/17/2013 5:43 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2013-04-17 15:09:37 -0700, Alan Browne said: On 2013.04.17 17:53 , Savageduck wrote: It has had a rough life on the airshow curcuit. http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../1/1612132.jpg "There are two kinds of pilots. Those who have landed gear up and those who will." (An expression that doesn't hold much anymore but was popular in the 70's). A Belgian pilot I knew eventually did the feat. His name was Guerin. ("gair-ain" in French, but we teased him as "Gear-i n) My father managed to get through WWII without a wheels up landing. However, he remembers July 8, 1944, the day he "got blown up" after a Japanese warehouse at Fac Fac, New Guinea exploded in front of him on a low level strafing run, and he flew through the airborne debris. The result was he had a japanese ammunition case jammed in the intercooler intake of one of the engines of his P-38L necessitating a 290 mile single engine flight to return to his home airfield. It even made it into the 9th fighter Squadron Unit history: "Until the 8th, the missions flown by the squadron were very prosaic patrols, but on this date our planes escorted B-25's to Fac Fac. Upon completion of the bombing all the flights strafed the target with fine results. Lt. H. "Daddy Duck" strafed a warehouse which turned out to be an ammunition depot. The resultant explosion threw debris to a very respectable height. Passing thru all the flying boxes and miscellaneous matter fouled up the coolant system of his plane, and Lt. "Daddy Duck" came home on one engine with his right prop feathered, a distance of 290 miles, landing safely. Pieces of ammunition boxes lodged in his intercoolers bore mute testimony to the fate of the warehouse. This was an example of good minimum altitude strafing." http://db.tt/uHYaWaFm The inspiration for your "Savageduck" nickname is now revealed. John |
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On 2013-04-18 14:26:15 -0700, John Turco said:
On 4/17/2013 5:43 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2013-04-17 15:09:37 -0700, Alan Browne said: On 2013.04.17 17:53 , Savageduck wrote: It has had a rough life on the airshow curcuit. http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../1/1612132.jpg "There are two kinds of pilots. Those who have landed gear up and those who will." (An expression that doesn't hold much anymore but was popular in the 70's). A Belgian pilot I knew eventually did the feat. His name was Guerin. ("gair-ain" in French, but we teased him as "Gear-i n) My father managed to get through WWII without a wheels up landing. However, he remembers July 8, 1944, the day he "got blown up" after a Japanese warehouse at Fac Fac, New Guinea exploded in front of him on a low level strafing run, and he flew through the airborne debris. The result was he had a japanese ammunition case jammed in the intercooler intake of one of the engines of his P-38L necessitating a 290 mile single engine flight to return to his home airfield. It even made it into the 9th fighter Squadron Unit history: "Until the 8th, the missions flown by the squadron were very prosaic patrols, but on this date our planes escorted B-25's to Fac Fac. Upon completion of the bombing all the flights strafed the target with fine results. Lt. H. "Daddy Duck" strafed a warehouse which turned out to be an ammunition depot. The resultant explosion threw debris to a very respectable height. Passing thru all the flying boxes and miscellaneous matter fouled up the coolant system of his plane, and Lt. "Daddy Duck" came home on one engine with his right prop feathered, a distance of 290 miles, landing safely. Pieces of ammunition boxes lodged in his intercoolers bore mute testimony to the fate of the warehouse. This was an example of good minimum altitude strafing." http://db.tt/uHYaWaFm The inspiration for your "Savageduck" nickname is now revealed. John Just a "Duck" redaction, or would that be "reducktion"? ....but before he switched to P-38s, he flew a P47D named "BigAssBurd". I also obscured our last name in the shot below taken at Dobodura, New Guinea. http://db.tt/17ViYIJ7 -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 04/17/2013 09:39 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2013-04-17 15:21:45 -0700, Savageduck said: On 2013-04-17 15:00:57 -0700, Savageduck said: On 2013-04-17 14:18:29 -0700, "Russell D." said: I thought some of you aviation buffs might enjoy this photo that I took at a mini air show in Driggs, Idaho last summer. What is wrong with this picture? (Other than it is not that great of a picture, etc., etc.) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25602611/jets.jpg Russell As I noted in you post to rec.photo.equipment.35mm (you should have cross posted here): At first glance one might believe this to be an F-86 "Sabre" followed by a pair MIGs. The F-86 as such was never a Navy aircraft, and was used exclusively by the USAF. However North American Aviation developed the FJ, FJ-2, FJ-3, & FJ-4 "Fury" for the US navy from the basic F-86. That is the aircraft in your capture. You should see that on close examination, your FJ-3 does not have the three on either side of the nose, .50 caliber guns, but is armed with 4 x 20mm cannons, two on either side of the nose. Also, you can just see the tail-hook confirming this as an FJ-4 "Fury", a derivative of the F-86, flown by US Navy & USMC. I just checked, and it is an FJ-4B. This particular one is serial number 143575 owned by Richard Sugden. It was built in 1958. It has had a rough life on the air show circuit. http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../1/1612132.jpg Nice capture! I would add, that #143575 is the last flying example of the FJ-4B "Fury", and has been restored to flying condition after the wheels up landing shown above. I have also taken the liberty to X-post to rec.photo.equipment.35mm as that is appropriate and on topic for both groups. Here is that wheels up landing in 2008: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnuKgAcOD2Q Thanks for the info, Duck. I couldn't remember what the American plane was. And thanks for the history on the plane. That's pretty cool. The other two are of course a Mig 15 and a Mig 17. The announcer of the show said they didn't think that those three types of plane had ever flown together before. They put on a mock dog fight that was pretty cool. All three of them are now home based at the airport in little Driggs, Idaho. Russell |
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On 4/18/2013 6:53 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2013-04-18 14:26:15 -0700, John Turco said: On 4/17/2013 5:43 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2013-04-17 15:09:37 -0700, Alan Browne said: On 2013.04.17 17:53 , Savageduck wrote: It has had a rough life on the airshow curcuit. http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../1/1612132.jpg "There are two kinds of pilots. Those who have landed gear up and those who will." (An expression that doesn't hold much anymore but was popular in the 70's). A Belgian pilot I knew eventually did the feat. His name was Guerin. ("gair-ain" in French, but we teased him as "Gear-i n) My father managed to get through WWII without a wheels up landing. However, he remembers July 8, 1944, the day he "got blown up" after a Japanese warehouse at Fac Fac, New Guinea exploded in front of him on a low level strafing run, and he flew through the airborne debris. The result was he had a japanese ammunition case jammed in the intercooler intake of one of the engines of his P-38L necessitating a 290 mile single engine flight to return to his home airfield. It even made it into the 9th fighter Squadron Unit history: "Until the 8th, the missions flown by the squadron were very prosaic patrols, but on this date our planes escorted B-25's to Fac Fac. Upon completion of the bombing all the flights strafed the target with fine results. Lt. H. "Daddy Duck" strafed a warehouse which turned out to be an ammunition depot. The resultant explosion threw debris to a very respectable height. Passing thru all the flying boxes and miscellaneous matter fouled up the coolant system of his plane, and Lt. "Daddy Duck" came home on one engine with his right prop feathered, a distance of 290 miles, landing safely. Pieces of ammunition boxes lodged in his intercoolers bore mute testimony to the fate of the warehouse. This was an example of good minimum altitude strafing." http://db.tt/uHYaWaFm The inspiration for your "Savageduck" nickname is now revealed. John Just a "Duck" redaction, or would that be "reducktion"? ....but before he switched to P-38s, he flew a P47D named "BigAssBurd". I also obscured our last name in the shot below taken at Dobodura, New Guinea. http://db.tt/17ViYIJ7 It says "Bigasburd" in your photograph, though. John |
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On 2013-04-20 15:46:26 -0700, John Turco said:
On 4/18/2013 6:53 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2013-04-18 14:26:15 -0700, John Turco said: On 4/17/2013 5:43 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2013-04-17 15:09:37 -0700, Alan Browne said: On 2013.04.17 17:53 , Savageduck wrote: It has had a rough life on the airshow curcuit. http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../1/1612132.jpg "There are two kinds of pilots. Those who have landed gear up and those who will." (An expression that doesn't hold much anymore but was popular in the 70's). A Belgian pilot I knew eventually did the feat. His name was Guerin. ("gair-ain" in French, but we teased him as "Gear-i n) My father managed to get through WWII without a wheels up landing. However, he remembers July 8, 1944, the day he "got blown up" after a Japanese warehouse at Fac Fac, New Guinea exploded in front of him on a low level strafing run, and he flew through the airborne debris. The result was he had a japanese ammunition case jammed in the intercooler intake of one of the engines of his P-38L necessitating a 290 mile single engine flight to return to his home airfield. It even made it into the 9th fighter Squadron Unit history: "Until the 8th, the missions flown by the squadron were very prosaic patrols, but on this date our planes escorted B-25's to Fac Fac. Upon completion of the bombing all the flights strafed the target with fine results. Lt. H. "Daddy Duck" strafed a warehouse which turned out to be an ammunition depot. The resultant explosion threw debris to a very respectable height. Passing thru all the flying boxes and miscellaneous matter fouled up the coolant system of his plane, and Lt. "Daddy Duck" came home on one engine with his right prop feathered, a distance of 290 miles, landing safely. Pieces of ammunition boxes lodged in his intercoolers bore mute testimony to the fate of the warehouse. This was an example of good minimum altitude strafing." http://db.tt/uHYaWaFm The inspiration for your "Savageduck" nickname is now revealed. John Just a "Duck" redaction, or would that be "reducktion"? ....but before he switched to P-38s, he flew a P47D named "BigAssBurd". I also obscured our last name in the shot below taken at Dobodura, New Guinea. http://db.tt/17ViYIJ7 It says "Bigasburd" in your photograph, though. John Phingr phahlt! One "S" & two upper case letters too many. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Savageduck wrote: On 2013-04-20 15:46:26 -0700, John Turco said: On 4/18/2013 6:53 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2013-04-18 14:26:15 -0700, John Turco said: On 4/17/2013 5:43 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2013-04-17 15:09:37 -0700, Alan Browne said: On 2013.04.17 17:53 , Savageduck wrote: It has had a rough life on the airshow curcuit. http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../1/1612132.jpg "There are two kinds of pilots. Those who have landed gear up and those who will." (An expression that doesn't hold much anymore but was popular in the 70's). A Belgian pilot I knew eventually did the feat. His name was Guerin. ("gair-ain" in French, but we teased him as "Gear-i n) My father managed to get through WWII without a wheels up landing. However, he remembers July 8, 1944, the day he "got blown up" after a Japanese warehouse at Fac Fac, New Guinea exploded in front of him on a low level strafing run, and he flew through the airborne debris. The result was he had a japanese ammunition case jammed in the intercooler intake of one of the engines of his P-38L necessitating a 290 mile single engine flight to return to his home airfield. It even made it into the 9th fighter Squadron Unit history: "Until the 8th, the missions flown by the squadron were very prosaic patrols, but on this date our planes escorted B-25's to Fac Fac. Upon completion of the bombing all the flights strafed the target with fine results. Lt. H. "Daddy Duck" strafed a warehouse which turned out to be an ammunition depot. The resultant explosion threw debris to a very respectable height. Passing thru all the flying boxes and miscellaneous matter fouled up the coolant system of his plane, and Lt. "Daddy Duck" came home on one engine with his right prop feathered, a distance of 290 miles, landing safely. Pieces of ammunition boxes lodged in his intercoolers bore mute testimony to the fate of the warehouse. This was an example of good minimum altitude strafing." http://db.tt/uHYaWaFm The inspiration for your "Savageduck" nickname is now revealed. John Just a "Duck" redaction, or would that be "reducktion"? ....but before he switched to P-38s, he flew a P47D named "BigAssBurd". I also obscured our last name in the shot below taken at Dobodura, New Guinea. http://db.tt/17ViYIJ7 It says "Bigasburd" in your photograph, though. John Phingr phahlt! One "S" & two upper case letters too many. I knew I had seen that name and picture somewhere. P47 was like driving a mack truck compared to the P38. The name came from what pilots thought of the P47 w.. |
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On 2013-04-21 06:00:10 -0700, Walter Banks said:
Savageduck wrote: On 2013-04-20 15:46:26 -0700, John Turco said: On 4/18/2013 6:53 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2013-04-18 14:26:15 -0700, John Turco said: On 4/17/2013 5:43 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2013-04-17 15:09:37 -0700, Alan Browne said: On 2013.04.17 17:53 , Savageduck wrote: It has had a rough life on the airshow curcuit. http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../1/1612132.jpg "There are two kinds of pilots. Those who have landed gear up and those who will." (An expression that doesn't hold much anymore but was popular in the 70's). A Belgian pilot I knew eventually did the feat. His name was Guerin. ("gair-ain" in French, but we teased him as "Gear-i n) My father managed to get through WWII without a wheels up landing. However, he remembers July 8, 1944, the day he "got blown up" after a Japanese warehouse at Fac Fac, New Guinea exploded in front of him on a low level strafing run, and he flew through the airborne debris. The result was he had a japanese ammunition case jammed in the intercooler intake of one of the engines of his P-38L necessitating a 290 mile single engine flight to return to his home airfield. It even made it into the 9th fighter Squadron Unit history: "Until the 8th, the missions flown by the squadron were very prosaic patrols, but on this date our planes escorted B-25's to Fac Fac. Upon completion of the bombing all the flights strafed the target with fine results. Lt. H. "Daddy Duck" strafed a warehouse which turned out to be an ammunition depot. The resultant explosion threw debris to a very respectable height. Passing thru all the flying boxes and miscellaneous matter fouled up the coolant system of his plane, and Lt. "Daddy Duck" came home on one engine with his right prop feathered, a distance of 290 miles, landing safely. Pieces of ammunition boxes lodged in his intercoolers bore mute testimony to the fate of the warehouse. This was an example of good minimum altitude strafing." http://db.tt/uHYaWaFm The inspiration for your "Savageduck" nickname is now revealed. John Just a "Duck" redaction, or would that be "reducktion"? ....but before he switched to P-38s, he flew a P47D named "BigAssBurd". I also obscured our last name in the shot below taken at Dobodura, New Guinea. http://db.tt/17ViYIJ7 It says "Bigasburd" in your photograph, though. John Phingr phahlt! One "S" & two upper case letters too many. I knew I had seen that name and picture somewhere. P47 was like driving a mack truck compared to the P38. The name came from what pilots thought of the P47 w.. Well as Dad said about the P-47, there was nothing which could catch it in a dive. Just wing over and head down hill with all that weight and 16 cylinders driving it. As far as the P-38 goes, he said that until it got aileron boost with the P-38J & P-38L the earlier editions pretty much handled like a truck, and gave the pilots a good workout. He said flying the P-38J & L models was like having power steering -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 2013.04.21 10:05 , Savageduck wrote:
Well as Dad said about the P-47, there was nothing which could catch it in a dive. Just wing over and head down hill with all that weight and 16 cylinders driving it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shsxuauQA3w -- "A Canadian is someone who knows how to have sex in a canoe." -Pierre Berton |
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On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 07:05:37 -0700, Savageduck
wrote: On 2013-04-21 06:00:10 -0700, Walter Banks said: Savageduck wrote: On 2013-04-20 15:46:26 -0700, John Turco said: On 4/18/2013 6:53 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2013-04-18 14:26:15 -0700, John Turco said: On 4/17/2013 5:43 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2013-04-17 15:09:37 -0700, Alan Browne said: On 2013.04.17 17:53 , Savageduck wrote: It has had a rough life on the airshow curcuit. http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../1/1612132.jpg "There are two kinds of pilots. Those who have landed gear up and those who will." (An expression that doesn't hold much anymore but was popular in the 70's). A Belgian pilot I knew eventually did the feat. His name was Guerin. ("gair-ain" in French, but we teased him as "Gear-i n) My father managed to get through WWII without a wheels up landing. However, he remembers July 8, 1944, the day he "got blown up" after a Japanese warehouse at Fac Fac, New Guinea exploded in front of him on a low level strafing run, and he flew through the airborne debris. The result was he had a japanese ammunition case jammed in the intercooler intake of one of the engines of his P-38L necessitating a 290 mile single engine flight to return to his home airfield. It even made it into the 9th fighter Squadron Unit history: "Until the 8th, the missions flown by the squadron were very prosaic patrols, but on this date our planes escorted B-25's to Fac Fac. Upon completion of the bombing all the flights strafed the target with fine results. Lt. H. "Daddy Duck" strafed a warehouse which turned out to be an ammunition depot. The resultant explosion threw debris to a very respectable height. Passing thru all the flying boxes and miscellaneous matter fouled up the coolant system of his plane, and Lt. "Daddy Duck" came home on one engine with his right prop feathered, a distance of 290 miles, landing safely. Pieces of ammunition boxes lodged in his intercoolers bore mute testimony to the fate of the warehouse. This was an example of good minimum altitude strafing." http://db.tt/uHYaWaFm The inspiration for your "Savageduck" nickname is now revealed. John Just a "Duck" redaction, or would that be "reducktion"? ....but before he switched to P-38s, he flew a P47D named "BigAssBurd". I also obscured our last name in the shot below taken at Dobodura, New Guinea. http://db.tt/17ViYIJ7 It says "Bigasburd" in your photograph, though. John Phingr phahlt! One "S" & two upper case letters too many. I knew I had seen that name and picture somewhere. P47 was like driving a mack truck compared to the P38. The name came from what pilots thought of the P47 w.. Well as Dad said about the P-47, there was nothing which could catch it in a dive. Just wing over and head down hill with all that weight and 16 cylinders driving it. What happened to the other two cylinders? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_R-2800 As far as the P-38 goes, he said that until it got aileron boost with the P-38J & P-38L the earlier editions pretty much handled like a truck, and gave the pilots a good workout. He said flying the P-38J & L models was like having power steering -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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On 2013.04.21 16:10 , Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 07:05:37 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2013-04-21 06:00:10 -0700, Walter Banks said: Savageduck wrote: On 2013-04-20 15:46:26 -0700, John Turco said: On 4/18/2013 6:53 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2013-04-18 14:26:15 -0700, John Turco said: On 4/17/2013 5:43 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2013-04-17 15:09:37 -0700, Alan Browne said: On 2013.04.17 17:53 , Savageduck wrote: It has had a rough life on the airshow curcuit. http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../1/1612132.jpg "There are two kinds of pilots. Those who have landed gear up and those who will." (An expression that doesn't hold much anymore but was popular in the 70's). A Belgian pilot I knew eventually did the feat. His name was Guerin. ("gair-ain" in French, but we teased him as "Gear-i n) My father managed to get through WWII without a wheels up landing. However, he remembers July 8, 1944, the day he "got blown up" after a Japanese warehouse at Fac Fac, New Guinea exploded in front of him on a low level strafing run, and he flew through the airborne debris. The result was he had a japanese ammunition case jammed in the intercooler intake of one of the engines of his P-38L necessitating a 290 mile single engine flight to return to his home airfield. It even made it into the 9th fighter Squadron Unit history: "Until the 8th, the missions flown by the squadron were very prosaic patrols, but on this date our planes escorted B-25's to Fac Fac. Upon completion of the bombing all the flights strafed the target with fine results. Lt. H. "Daddy Duck" strafed a warehouse which turned out to be an ammunition depot. The resultant explosion threw debris to a very respectable height. Passing thru all the flying boxes and miscellaneous matter fouled up the coolant system of his plane, and Lt. "Daddy Duck" came home on one engine with his right prop feathered, a distance of 290 miles, landing safely. Pieces of ammunition boxes lodged in his intercoolers bore mute testimony to the fate of the warehouse. This was an example of good minimum altitude strafing." http://db.tt/uHYaWaFm The inspiration for your "Savageduck" nickname is now revealed. John Just a "Duck" redaction, or would that be "reducktion"? ....but before he switched to P-38s, he flew a P47D named "BigAssBurd". I also obscured our last name in the shot below taken at Dobodura, New Guinea. http://db.tt/17ViYIJ7 It says "Bigasburd" in your photograph, though. John Phingr phahlt! One "S" & two upper case letters too many. I knew I had seen that name and picture somewhere. P47 was like driving a mack truck compared to the P38. The name came from what pilots thought of the P47 w.. Well as Dad said about the P-47, there was nothing which could catch it in a dive. Just wing over and head down hill with all that weight and 16 cylinders driving it. What happened to the other two cylinders? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_R-2800 I'm sure the duck was just testing you... (Note: radial engines always have an uneven number of cylinders per row, so 16 cyl. is impossible). More common were 14 (2x7), 18 (2x9) 27 (3x9). I think there were some 4x7 or 4x9's out there too) 10 or 15 cyl. is "possible" but I don't know of any...). (The only WW-II 5 cylinder radial I recall was the APU for the B-24 (I think). A fellow here built a homebuilt and used one as the engine. It had not been out of its crate since WW II. But it looked brand new. Took a good hour to start the first time (carburetor set up), but after that it was a champ) -- "A Canadian is someone who knows how to have sex in a canoe." -Pierre Berton |
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