Does any other program (windows or linux) do screenshot annotationefficiently?

On 2013-04-21, Danny D. wrote:

Programs on linux that fail the simple annotation triad test a
- GIMP, Inkscape, ImageMagick, F-Spot, Viewnior, Krita, Xfig,

Paint.NET; while no program passes that test, unfortunately,
on Linux.

Not sure what you are looking for, but krita certainly WILL do the 3
tasks you list. It will import images like jpg's, it will allow you
to draw arrows and circles anywhere on the image, and finally, it does
have a text insertion feature. Perhaps not as easily as you would
like, but it can be done. Granted, krita documentation goes from
atrocious to non-existent, but the application will perform the jobs
you require. Jes gotta be smarter than the tool.

nb

On 23 Apr 2013 17:02:39 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2013-04-21, Danny D. wrote:

Programs on linux that fail the simple annotation triad test a
- GIMP, Inkscape, ImageMagick, F-Spot, Viewnior, Krita, Xfig,

Paint.NET; while no program passes that test, unfortunately,
on Linux.

Not sure what you are looking for, but krita certainly WILL do the 3
tasks you list. It will import images like jpg's, it will allow you
to draw arrows and circles anywhere on the image, and finally, it does
have a text insertion feature. Perhaps not as easily as you would
like, but it can be done. Granted, krita documentation goes from
atrocious to non-existent, but the application will perform the jobs
you require. Jes gotta be smarter than the tool.

It's also helpful to not *BE* a tool.

On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 06:50:58 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2013-04-23 03:11:38 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:09:49 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2013-04-22 22:16:20 -0700, "Danny D." said:

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:14:36 -0400 Tony Cooper wrote:

If you want a second or third arrow, you merely copy/paste that layer
and move the arrow on that layer. You don't have to re-draw the
arrow.

That's a very nice feature, especially when you have tiered arrows,
as shown in the Bugatti picture.

Mercedes is going to be miffed that you think that 1936 540K Special,
is a Bugatti.

This is a Bugatti:
http://db.tt/HAs3aoEP

Do you call that a Bugatti?

THIS is a Bugatti!
http://www.carsmoveus.com/wp-content...9990841497.jpg

(With apologies to Crocodile Dundee).

Oh! Come on! You could have come up with a more recent shot of what
probably became German mess kits in 1940.

The last time I saw it, it was in the International Automobile Mueum
in Geneva. That would have been about 15 years ago. The museum has
closed since then and I don't know what happened to the cars.

...and even if it survived WWII, it was just a boulevardier, an
overweight sled, which oozed down the road and would have been less
than adequate on the track.

It was never made for that. Basically it intended for royalty and
Ettore Bugatti had to approve your table manners. I kid you not.

In any case, 120 mph whould not have been called 'oozing' in the
1930s.


The magnesium body, 1935 Type 57S Competition, "Electron Torpedo", I
shot at Laguna Seca in 2010 would have left your sled in its dust.

Not in a straight line. They both had about the same maximum speed.

The car you shot appears not to be an entirely genuine Bugatti.
Certainly all major parts are genuine but different parts seem to have
come from different cars. I suspect it is patterned on the Bugatti
Aerolithe.

See http://www.bugattibuilder.com/forum/...php?f=1&t=2120


...and then there is this very driveable 1937 Bugatti Type 57 SC.
http://db.tt/8JKBVixQ
or this 1938 GP streamliner
http://db.tt/DZTELetj
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 2013-04-23 16:51:48 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 06:50:58 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2013-04-23 03:11:38 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:09:49 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2013-04-22 22:16:20 -0700, "Danny D." said:

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:14:36 -0400 Tony Cooper wrote:

If you want a second or third arrow, you merely copy/paste that layer
and move the arrow on that layer. You don't have to re-draw the
arrow.

That's a very nice feature, especially when you have tiered arrows,
as shown in the Bugatti picture.

Mercedes is going to be miffed that you think that 1936 540K Special,
is a Bugatti.

This is a Bugatti:
http://db.tt/HAs3aoEP

Do you call that a Bugatti?

THIS is a Bugatti!
http://www.carsmoveus.com/wp-content...9990841497.jpg

(With apologies to Crocodile Dundee).

Oh! Come on! You could have come up with a more recent shot of what
probably became German mess kits in 1940.

The last time I saw it, it was in the International Automobile Mueum
in Geneva. That would have been about 15 years ago. The museum has
closed since then and I don't know what happened to the cars.

That is good news. Since the museum has closed it has probably survived
and crossed the boards at some auction house. Check with Jay Leno.

...and even if it survived WWII, it was just a boulevardier, an
overweight sled, which oozed down the road and would have been less
than adequate on the track.

It was never made for that. Basically it intended for royalty and
Ettore Bugatti had to approve your table manners. I kid you not.

In any case, 120 mph whould not have been called 'oozing' in the
1930s.

Do you mean I am not permitted to bait Eric?


The magnesium body, 1935 Type 57S Competition, "Electron Torpedo", I
shot at Laguna Seca in 2010 would have left your sled in its dust.

Not in a straight line. They both had about the same maximum speed.

The car you shot appears not to be an entirely genuine Bugatti.
Certainly all major parts are genuine but different parts seem to have
come from different cars. I suspect it is patterned on the Bugatti
Aerolithe.

See http://www.bugattibuilder.com/forum/...php?f=1&t=2120

The "Aerolithe" is a totally different car. It is a fast back
streamlined coupe, and while technically a Type 57, its only physical
resemblance to the Type 57 roadsters, is the familiar radiator. The
Type 57 was the basis for a whole line of very different cars between
1935 and 1939.
http://www.guildclassiccars.com/1935...Aerolithe.html

The Type 57S above was undergoing a full restoration, and is not a
replica as suggested. This car won the Paris Salon of 1935.

One thing to remember about Bugatti of that era, no two were completely
identical. Most especially the high end models were build with custom
coachwork with several designers involved at that stage of
construction, very much in the same manner as Duesenberg, DelaHaye,
Bentley, and Rolls-Royce.

Some of the most valuable Bugattis are the unrestored running survivors
such as this Type 54GP:
http://db.tt/kXSlavPM

You can see the Type 57S in the background/


...and then there is this very driveable 1937 Bugatti Type 57 SC.
http://db.tt/8JKBVixQ
or this 1938 GP streamliner
http://db.tt/DZTELetj


--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 2013-04-23 16:51:48 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 06:50:58 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2013-04-23 03:11:38 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:09:49 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2013-04-22 22:16:20 -0700, "Danny D." said:

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:14:36 -0400 Tony Cooper wrote:

If you want a second or third arrow, you merely copy/paste that layer
and move the arrow on that layer. You don't have to re-draw the
arrow.

That's a very nice feature, especially when you have tiered arrows,
as shown in the Bugatti picture.

Mercedes is going to be miffed that you think that 1936 540K Special,
is a Bugatti.

This is a Bugatti:
http://db.tt/HAs3aoEP

Do you call that a Bugatti?

THIS is a Bugatti!
http://www.carsmoveus.com/wp-content...9990841497.jpg

(With apologies to Crocodile Dundee).

Oh! Come on! You could have come up with a more recent shot of what
probably became German mess kits in 1940.

The last time I saw it, it was in the International Automobile Mueum
in Geneva. That would have been about 15 years ago. The museum has
closed since then and I don't know what happened to the cars.

...and even if it survived WWII, it was just a boulevardier, an
overweight sled, which oozed down the road and would have been less
than adequate on the track.

It was never made for that. Basically it intended for royalty and
Ettore Bugatti had to approve your table manners. I kid you not.

In any case, 120 mph whould not have been called 'oozing' in the
1930s.


The magnesium body, 1935 Type 57S Competition, "Electron Torpedo", I
shot at Laguna Seca in 2010 would have left your sled in its dust.

Not in a straight line. They both had about the same maximum speed.

The car you shot appears not to be an entirely genuine Bugatti.
Certainly all major parts are genuine but different parts seem to have
come from different cars. I suspect it is patterned on the Bugatti
Aerolithe.

See http://www.bugattibuilder.com/forum/...php?f=1&t=2120

Your bugattibuilder.com site seems to have mis-IDed the photos in its
story and speculated on replica status.
Note the "?", the writer seems unsure.

This is the reconstructed Type 57SC with a replica body.

http://www.mullinautomotivemuseum.co...-roadster.html


...and then there is this very driveable 1937 Bugatti Type 57 SC.
http://db.tt/8JKBVixQ
or this 1938 GP streamliner
http://db.tt/DZTELetj
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens


--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 4/21/2013 4:53 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:


snip



What you are using is a nice little program, but it's not a new
religion or a cure for cancer. I'm not interested in converting you
to an Adobe product, and I'm certainly not interested in stepping back
to a minor program.

Most people don't buy a program to annotate screen shots. That's one
use, but we buy programs to do that and many other things.


The businessman side of you is showing. It's all too obvious that you
are more interested in photography, than playing with tools.

--
PeterN

On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:47:41 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2013-04-23 16:51:48 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 06:50:58 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2013-04-23 03:11:38 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:09:49 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2013-04-22 22:16:20 -0700, "Danny D." said:

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:14:36 -0400 Tony Cooper wrote:

If you want a second or third arrow, you merely copy/paste that layer
and move the arrow on that layer. You don't have to re-draw the
arrow.

That's a very nice feature, especially when you have tiered arrows,
as shown in the Bugatti picture.

Mercedes is going to be miffed that you think that 1936 540K Special,
is a Bugatti.

This is a Bugatti:
http://db.tt/HAs3aoEP

Do you call that a Bugatti?

THIS is a Bugatti!
http://www.carsmoveus.com/wp-content...9990841497.jpg

(With apologies to Crocodile Dundee).

Oh! Come on! You could have come up with a more recent shot of what
probably became German mess kits in 1940.

The last time I saw it, it was in the International Automobile Mueum
in Geneva. That would have been about 15 years ago. The museum has
closed since then and I don't know what happened to the cars.

That is good news. Since the museum has closed it has probably survived
and crossed the boards at some auction house. Check with Jay Leno.

...and even if it survived WWII, it was just a boulevardier, an
overweight sled, which oozed down the road and would have been less
than adequate on the track.

It was never made for that. Basically it intended for royalty and
Ettore Bugatti had to approve your table manners. I kid you not.

In any case, 120 mph whould not have been called 'oozing' in the
1930s.

Do you mean I am not permitted to bait Eric?

Why not? After all, I bait you.


The magnesium body, 1935 Type 57S Competition, "Electron Torpedo", I
shot at Laguna Seca in 2010 would have left your sled in its dust.

Not in a straight line. They both had about the same maximum speed.

The car you shot appears not to be an entirely genuine Bugatti.
Certainly all major parts are genuine but different parts seem to have
come from different cars. I suspect it is patterned on the Bugatti
Aerolithe.

See http://www.bugattibuilder.com/forum/...php?f=1&t=2120

The "Aerolithe" is a totally different car. It is a fast back
streamlined coupe, and while technically a Type 57, its only physical
resemblance to the Type 57 roadsters, is the familiar radiator. The
Type 57 was the basis for a whole line of very different cars between
1935 and 1939.
http://www.guildclassiccars.com/1935...Aerolithe.html

The Type 57S above was undergoing a full restoration, and is not a
replica as suggested. This car won the Paris Salon of 1935.

That's true - and its never been seen since.

I wasn't suggesting the car you photographed was a replica. I was
suggesting it was built out of a collection of Bugatti parts.

http://www.hopupmag.com/index.php/weblog/article/C2/ has more of the
story which is consistent with what I read elsewhere. A chassis + a
gear box + and engine.

"A guy we know has been building this car for some time; I think he
bought the (correct, one-off) frame in about 1981. It had been
acquired from the factory when it all ended in 1960 or so. It’s the
show Bugatti from 1935 which was not sold and went back to the
factory and kind of ‘parted out’, if I have it correct. It’s all
righteous Bug parts on that for-real frame and the body thereon
is…magnesium. Oh, yeah. It’s getting wrapped up now for the world
debut - I think the chassis was at Pebble Beach last year to demo
the engine and run it for the plebes. Anywho, it should be in all
the right mags and shows in time."

The photograph/sketch
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31088803/57222.jpg shows the
intended riveted flange of the elektron guards (wings) as were used in
the Aerolithe. This car undoubtedly has the S type (lowered) chassis
(while the recently made Aerolithe replica seems to have a standard
chassis). The car you photographed has the correct type of chassis
which may well be that of the Aerolithe.

One thing to remember about Bugatti of that era, no two were completely
identical. Most especially the high end models were build with custom
coachwork with several designers involved at that stage of
construction, very much in the same manner as Duesenberg, DelaHaye,
Bentley, and Rolls-Royce.

Some of the most valuable Bugattis are the unrestored running survivors
such as this Type 54GP:
http://db.tt/kXSlavPM

You can see the Type 57S in the background/


...and then there is this very driveable 1937 Bugatti Type 57 SC.
http://db.tt/8JKBVixQ
or this 1938 GP streamliner
http://db.tt/DZTELetj
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 18:54:48 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2013-04-23 16:51:48 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 06:50:58 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2013-04-23 03:11:38 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:09:49 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2013-04-22 22:16:20 -0700, "Danny D." said:

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:14:36 -0400 Tony Cooper wrote:

If you want a second or third arrow, you merely copy/paste that layer
and move the arrow on that layer. You don't have to re-draw the
arrow.

That's a very nice feature, especially when you have tiered arrows,
as shown in the Bugatti picture.

Mercedes is going to be miffed that you think that 1936 540K Special,
is a Bugatti.

This is a Bugatti:
http://db.tt/HAs3aoEP

Do you call that a Bugatti?

THIS is a Bugatti!
http://www.carsmoveus.com/wp-content...9990841497.jpg

(With apologies to Crocodile Dundee).

Oh! Come on! You could have come up with a more recent shot of what
probably became German mess kits in 1940.

The last time I saw it, it was in the International Automobile Mueum
in Geneva. That would have been about 15 years ago. The museum has
closed since then and I don't know what happened to the cars.

...and even if it survived WWII, it was just a boulevardier, an
overweight sled, which oozed down the road and would have been less
than adequate on the track.

It was never made for that. Basically it intended for royalty and
Ettore Bugatti had to approve your table manners. I kid you not.

In any case, 120 mph whould not have been called 'oozing' in the
1930s.


The magnesium body, 1935 Type 57S Competition, "Electron Torpedo", I
shot at Laguna Seca in 2010 would have left your sled in its dust.

Not in a straight line. They both had about the same maximum speed.

The car you shot appears not to be an entirely genuine Bugatti.
Certainly all major parts are genuine but different parts seem to have
come from different cars. I suspect it is patterned on the Bugatti
Aerolithe.

See http://www.bugattibuilder.com/forum/...php?f=1&t=2120

Your bugattibuilder.com site seems to have mis-IDed the photos in its
story and speculated on replica status.
Note the "?", the writer seems unsure.

He's still talking about a replica using Bugatti parts. I think he may
be confused by the unusual chassis taper. It may be that he is looking
at one of the prototype chassis, maybe even that of the Aerolithe.

This is the reconstructed Type 57SC with a replica body.

http://www.mullinautomotivemuseum.co...-roadster.html


...and then there is this very driveable 1937 Bugatti Type 57 SC.
http://db.tt/8JKBVixQ
or this 1938 GP streamliner
http://db.tt/DZTELetj
--
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:02:12 -0700 Savageduck wrote:

In Photoshop they are added to a unique layer as a vector graphic

This is a very useful feature that I've never seen in the
freeware mentioned.

It allows a series of custom arrows to be cut and pasted so that
they're consistent.

That's nice - and NOT in the freeware feature set! (AFAIK)

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:09:49 -0700 Savageduck wrote:

Mercedes is going to be miffed that you think that 1936 540K Special,
is a Bugatti.

Ooops.