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I'm in the process of building a new computer ....
Eric Stevens:
I'm in the process of building a new computer and, so far, I have only got to the paper stage. No Apple Stores in NZ? All you need is a bit of paper or plastic and they'll send you home with a new computer that works. And works and works and works... -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm |
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On 25/07/2016 16:52, Mayayana wrote:
| I do disagree with your other comment on AMD processors. I've had some | problems with them in the past, and would never touch them now. I | always buy Intel. "Some problems"? What problems? Some years ago they were tricky in that one needed to be aware of possible overheating problems. They needed good cooling and preferably a heat monitor. But that hasn't been true for many years. They now have built-in functionality to shut down for microseconds at a time, when not needed for any work, which keeps them easily within a low temp range, not much above Summer air temperatures. I've built about 10 computers in the past several years, for myself and friends. All have AMD CPUs. None has had any problems. Yes, overheating was one, motherboard problems (appreciate those aren't of AMD's making) resulting in various incompatibilities. Friends of mine also use AMD and haven't reported significant problems. Here's a balanced comparison: http://www.techradar.com/news/comput...is-best-936589 I also agree with the comment on buying one or two steps down from the top level. For most people CPU power is now "adequate". Gamers and video editors are possible exceptions! -- Cheers, David Web: http://www.satsignal.eu |
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On 7/25/2016 11:30 AM, David Taylor wrote:
On 25/07/2016 15:33, Mayayana wrote: [] The port is. The support is not. The only advantage of USB3 is speed. If you use memory sticks daily that might matter. Otherwise it's of little relevance. With the size of files these days (especially camera files) USB 3 is a significant advantage. I don't do a lot, but when backing up onto a 64 GB USB stick or 1 TB HD, or downloading an SD card, USB does show a real speed increase. Whether USB-C is going to replace it is another question.... I do disagree with your other comment on AMD processors. I've had some problems with them in the past, and would never touch them now. I always buy Intel. Even the Intel processors used in tablets are fine, and with an SSD they will boot Windows-10 very quickly. I've built quite a few systems over the years and bought a few also. All have had AMD processors and I've never had an issue with any of them, |
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nospam ha usato la sua tastiera per scrivere :
that's a contradiction. usb 3 is backwards compatible which means that plugging a usb 2 device into a usb 3 port or a usb 3 device into a usb 2 port will work, just at usb 2 speeds. if it doesn't work, then something is non-compliant with the spec. but in the real world I have found USB3 devices that doesn't work on old pc's USB2, and it is not a matter of current. Don't ask me why because I don't know, but it happens. wrong. usb3 can source substantially more power, along with other benefits, but even if that was the only advantage, the difference is *huge*. In my office i have pc pc with usb3; not a great pc, but win a good cpu (i7 2600). Copying large files tu a usb3 disk reach a speed around 80/90 Mb/sec, but the pc slow down as an old P4 until the copy finished. nonsense. anyone that uses a hard drive or ssd daily (i.e., everyone) will greatly benefit from the additional speed of usb3 (and power if the device is bus-powered). I agree. Speed is good enough to overcome the negative issues. I never found devices that really needs all the current that usb3 can supply, but better to have some current more than less. |
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In article , Adriano
wrote: that's a contradiction. usb 3 is backwards compatible which means that plugging a usb 2 device into a usb 3 port or a usb 3 device into a usb 2 port will work, just at usb 2 speeds. if it doesn't work, then something is non-compliant with the spec. but in the real world I have found USB3 devices that doesn't work on old pc's USB2, and it is not a matter of current. Don't ask me why because I don't know, but it happens. then they're defective or non-compliant. wrong. usb3 can source substantially more power, along with other benefits, but even if that was the only advantage, the difference is *huge*. In my office i have pc pc with usb3; not a great pc, but win a good cpu (i7 2600). Copying large files tu a usb3 disk reach a speed around 80/90 Mb/sec, but the pc slow down as an old P4 until the copy finished. something is limiting your speeds if you're only getting 80/90 mb/s. nonsense. anyone that uses a hard drive or ssd daily (i.e., everyone) will greatly benefit from the additional speed of usb3 (and power if the device is bus-powered). I agree. Speed is good enough to overcome the negative issues. what negative issues? usb3 is in every way better than usb 2. I never found devices that really needs all the current that usb3 can supply, but better to have some current more than less. you've never used a bus-powered hard drive? or charged a phone? |
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On 7/25/2016 10:56 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , Mayayana wrote: | usb 3 is backwards compatible. a bunch of usb 3 ports is all that's | needed. The port is. The support is not. that's a contradiction. usb 3 is backwards compatible which means that plugging a usb 2 device into a usb 3 port or a usb 3 device into a usb 2 port will work, just at usb 2 speeds. if it doesn't work, then something is non-compliant with the spec. Perhaps that is what Mayayana meant by "support"? I have a USB3 HD that *only* works on a USB2 port for some reason. And, of course, this kind of thing isn't a new problem. -- Best regards, Neil |
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In article , Neil
wrote: | usb 3 is backwards compatible. a bunch of usb 3 ports is all that's | needed. The port is. The support is not. that's a contradiction. usb 3 is backwards compatible which means that plugging a usb 2 device into a usb 3 port or a usb 3 device into a usb 2 port will work, just at usb 2 speeds. if it doesn't work, then something is non-compliant with the spec. Perhaps that is what Mayayana meant by "support"? I have a USB3 HD that *only* works on a USB2 port for some reason. And, of course, this kind of thing isn't a new problem. either your drive or your usb 3 ports are defective or non-compliant. don't blame the technology for buying ****ty products. |
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On 25/07/2016 17:54, PAS wrote:
[] I've built quite a few systems over the years and bought a few also. All have had AMD processors and I've never had an issue with any of them, That's good to hear. We were seeing problems even a few years ago, but as I said earlier, that may reflect more on the motherboards than the processors themselves. -- Cheers, David Web: http://www.satsignal.eu |
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On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 14:17:50 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Neil wrote: | usb 3 is backwards compatible. a bunch of usb 3 ports is all that's | needed. The port is. The support is not. that's a contradiction. usb 3 is backwards compatible which means that plugging a usb 2 device into a usb 3 port or a usb 3 device into a usb 2 port will work, just at usb 2 speeds. if it doesn't work, then something is non-compliant with the spec. Perhaps that is what Mayayana meant by "support"? I have a USB3 HD that *only* works on a USB2 port for some reason. And, of course, this kind of thing isn't a new problem. either your drive or your usb 3 ports are defective or non-compliant. Or bad cables, or drivers, or a port that isn't even connected, or connected to the wrong mainboard terminal. USB3 has been around long enough now that there shouldn't be any issues with recent mainboards, or really anything else. But you never know. |
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In article , Bill W
wrote: | usb 3 is backwards compatible. a bunch of usb 3 ports is all that's | needed. The port is. The support is not. that's a contradiction. usb 3 is backwards compatible which means that plugging a usb 2 device into a usb 3 port or a usb 3 device into a usb 2 port will work, just at usb 2 speeds. if it doesn't work, then something is non-compliant with the spec. Perhaps that is what Mayayana meant by "support"? I have a USB3 HD that *only* works on a USB2 port for some reason. And, of course, this kind of thing isn't a new problem. either your drive or your usb 3 ports are defective or non-compliant. Or bad cables, or drivers, or a port that isn't even connected, or connected to the wrong mainboard terminal. USB3 has been around long enough now that there shouldn't be any issues with recent mainboards, or really anything else. But you never know. the usb spec requires that usb 3 devices and hosts be able to negotiate a usb 2 connection (or even usb 1 with an ancient device) if both sides don't support usb 3. if that doesn't happen, something is wrong and needs to be fixed. |
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