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I'm in the process of building a new computer ....
I'm in the process of building a new computer and, so far, I have only
got to the paper stage. I am not looking for the right-now blazingly fast but I would like it to stay out of the bog-slow for the next five years. I have a number of questions upon which I would like comments. 1. How many threads are Photoshop/LightRoom likely to be able to use over the next five years? Anyone who knows DxO sufficiently well is also welcome to comment. 2. With how much RAM should should the machine be equipped? I have a zillion other questions but that will do for a start. nospam is welcome. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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On 25/07/2016 09:34, Eric Stevens wrote:
I'm in the process of building a new computer and, so far, I have only got to the paper stage. I am not looking for the right-now blazingly fast but I would like it to stay out of the bog-slow for the next five years. I have a number of questions upon which I would like comments. 1. How many threads are Photoshop/LightRoom likely to be able to use over the next five years? Anyone who knows DxO sufficiently well is also welcome to comment. 2. With how much RAM should should the machine be equipped? I have a zillion other questions but that will do for a start. 1. If in doubt, get a 4-coe with hyperthreading. 2. I would start with 16 GB, and 32 GB isn't a "silly" amount. SSD for the system. HD or two for your data. USB 3.0 and (perhaps if you have older peripherals) USB 2.0 as well. Some USB 3 doesn't work with USB 2, and some USB 2 doesn't work with USB 1. Sigh! USB-C? -- Cheers, David Web: http://www.satsignal.eu |
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I'm in the process of building a new computer ....
| I'm in the process of building a new computer and, so far, I have only
| got to the paper stage. | | I am not looking for the right-now blazingly fast but I would like it | to stay out of the bog-slow for the next five years. | There was a discussion here awhile back where someone demonstrated that most modern software can use all cores. I built myself a new computer about 6 months ago. AMD FX-8300 Processor - 8-core, 3.3GHz Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Altogether it was a little over $300, I think. Then I also got an SSD. I don't find the SSD amazing, but it's a nice boost, especially for booting. There are so many factors. And most problems with speed these days are about software and system configuration rather than hardware. Hardware is way beyond what most people need and has been for years. I've heard warnings about Win10 being slow and heavy, but haven't used it much myself. It might be fine if you have lots of power and RAM for it, which you will. RAM, of course, is important, but it should be cheap and easy now to get far more than you really need. And any motherboard you buy should be RAM-expandable to your heart's content. My own approach is to buy decent, but never the latest. Whatever came out in the past 6 months is always "blazingly fast". Whatever's a year old is always "good enough for sending email". But that same hardware was blazingly fast last year. The high end is for suckers. For photo editing I'd be more focussed on researching graphic cards. Buy a good CPU for not more than $100. I'd avoid Intel. You're paying for the name and funding their TV ads. Some swear by Intel. I haven't bought their products since about 2000. Motherboard: Judge it based on options and what you need. The main difference is in the combinations of ports and plugins. But this can also be a lot like cars and coins. You can't just say one brand is best. Vintage and model can make a difference, and that's not easy to just look up. But there are sites that do testing and reports. Sometimes there are lemon models of these things, but that doesn't seem to be common. Any old case should be fine. They're not fancy. Though the last case I bought had no reboot button! I had to take one out of an old box. But you shouldn't scrimp on the power supply. If that overloads it will blow everything. What I always do is to go to Tigerdirect, see what they have, then research my likely choices. They provide a lot of info and also list bestsellers. With model numbers one can also search for testing site results. Last but not least, depending on what Windows version you plan to install, make sure there are drivers available for all of the hardware involved. I hope those notes may be of some value. It's sort of a list of unrelated tips as they came to mind. |
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I'm in the process of building a new computer ....
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: 1. How many threads are Photoshop/LightRoom likely to be able to use over the next five years? Anyone who knows DxO sufficiently well is also welcome to comment. photoshop will use as many threads as are necessary for a given task. sometimes it's only one thread, sometimes it's 8 or more. you're *way* overanalyzing things. 2. With how much RAM should should the machine be equipped? as much as you can afford. |
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I'm in the process of building a new computer ....
In article , David Taylor
wrote: SSD for the system. HD or two for your data. ssd for everything, hd for backups and rarely used files. USB 3.0 and (perhaps if you have older peripherals) USB 2.0 as well. Some USB 3 doesn't work with USB 2, and some USB 2 doesn't work with USB 1. Sigh! complete nonsense. usb 3 is backwards compatible. a bunch of usb 3 ports is all that's needed. USB-C? absolutely. usb-c is the future. |
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| usb 3 is backwards compatible. a bunch of usb 3 ports is all that's
| needed. | The port is. The support is not. The only advantage of USB3 is speed. If you use memory sticks daily that might matter. Otherwise it's of little relevance. |
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I'm in the process of building a new computer ....
In article , Mayayana
wrote: | usb 3 is backwards compatible. a bunch of usb 3 ports is all that's | needed. The port is. The support is not. that's a contradiction. usb 3 is backwards compatible which means that plugging a usb 2 device into a usb 3 port or a usb 3 device into a usb 2 port will work, just at usb 2 speeds. if it doesn't work, then something is non-compliant with the spec. The only advantage of USB3 is speed. wrong. usb3 can source substantially more power, along with other benefits, but even if that was the only advantage, the difference is *huge*. If you use memory sticks daily that might matter. Otherwise it's of little relevance. nonsense. anyone that uses a hard drive or ssd daily (i.e., everyone) will greatly benefit from the additional speed of usb3 (and power if the device is bus-powered). |
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On 25/07/2016 15:33, Mayayana wrote:
[] The port is. The support is not. The only advantage of USB3 is speed. If you use memory sticks daily that might matter. Otherwise it's of little relevance. With the size of files these days (especially camera files) USB 3 is a significant advantage. I don't do a lot, but when backing up onto a 64 GB USB stick or 1 TB HD, or downloading an SD card, USB does show a real speed increase. Whether USB-C is going to replace it is another question.... I do disagree with your other comment on AMD processors. I've had some problems with them in the past, and would never touch them now. I always buy Intel. Even the Intel processors used in tablets are fine, and with an SSD they will boot Windows-10 very quickly. -- Cheers, David Web: http://www.satsignal.eu |
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I'm in the process of building a new computer ....
| I do disagree with your other comment on AMD processors. I've had some
| problems with them in the past, and would never touch them now. I | always buy Intel. "Some problems"? What problems? Some years ago they were tricky in that one needed to be aware of possible overheating problems. They needed good cooling and preferably a heat monitor. But that hasn't been true for many years. They now have built-in functionality to shut down for microseconds at a time, when not needed for any work, which keeps them easily within a low temp range, not much above Summer air temperatures. I've built about 10 computers in the past several years, for myself and friends. All have AMD CPUs. None has had any problems. |
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I'm in the process of building a new computer ....
In article , David Taylor
wrote: Whether USB-C is going to replace it is another question.... one which has been answered. usb-c is already replacing usb-a/b as well as several other connectors. not only is usb-c capable of substantially faster speeds (currently up to 10gbit), but it supports a *lot* more power (up to 100w and in either direction), has a reversible plug and is also plug-compatible with thunderbolt 3. there already are several computers and mobile devices that *only* have usb-c, including ones from hp and google. |
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