Nikon Coolpix LCD is crap in daylight

"Don Lope de Aguirre" wrote in message
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Why do these ****ers put just an LCD for viewing and no viewfinder if the
LCD is **** in bright daylight? I have to guess where the subject is and
hope for the best. You are dumbasses Nikon! OK, not just Nikon but a lot
of camera companies are doing the same thing. You have to pay another
$100.00 just to get a P&S with a viewfinder.

Or shade the thing with your hand or something. Yes, it's annoying, but on
the other hand an optical viewfinder in a compact camera is so wildly
inaccurate I'm not sure how much of a loss it really is.

I used an LCD-only Coolpix a couple of winters ago in Florida, in the bright
mid-day sun, including some situations at the beach, and was able to manage
all right with it.

On 2009-12-05 23:02:30 -0500, "Don Lope de Aguirre" said:

Why do these ****ers put just an LCD for viewing and no viewfinder if
the LCD is **** in bright daylight? I have to guess where the subject
is and hope for the best. You are dumbasses Nikon! OK, not just Nikon
but a lot of camera companies are doing the same thing. You have to pay
another $100.00 just to get a P&S with a viewfinder.

Before you buy, go to the store on a bright sunlit day and tell the
salesperson you won't buy it if they don't walk it outside with you so
you can try it in the sunlight.
--
Michael

On 12/6/09 11:45 AM, in article
, "Neil Harrington"
wrote:


"George Kerby" wrote in message
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On 12/5/09 10:02 PM, in article
,
"Don Lope de Aguirre" wrote:

Why do these ****ers put just an LCD for viewing and no viewfinder if the
LCD is **** in bright daylight? I have to guess where the subject is and
hope for the best. You are dumbasses Nikon! OK, not just Nikon but a lot
of
camera companies are doing the same thing. You have to pay another
$100.00
just to get a P&S with a viewfinder.

If you bought a Canon, you wouldn't have that problem. Did you pay only
fifty bucks for that "Crude-Pix"?

You're mistaken there, George. Here's the latest Canon Elph, $379.99 and NO
OPTICAL VIEWFINDER.
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...ategoryid=145&
modelid=18335


Aww! Didja just HAVE to conveniently snip my URL?!?

Well, here it is - AGAIN:

http://www.nextag.com/canon-sd1200/compare-html

Like I said: A buck fifty will get you an optical viewfinder with Canon, as
opposed to that over-rated, over-priced Nikon crap.

On 12/6/09 11:57 AM, in article
, "Neil Harrington"
wrote:


"George Kerby" wrote in message
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On 12/5/09 10:02 PM, in article
,
"Don Lope de Aguirre" wrote:

Why do these ****ers put just an LCD for viewing and no viewfinder if the
LCD is **** in bright daylight? I have to guess where the subject is and
hope for the best. You are dumbasses Nikon! OK, not just Nikon but a lot
of
camera companies are doing the same thing. You have to pay another
$100.00
just to get a P&S with a viewfinder.

Because the dumbassed mooing masses want it that way. That's why they call
it 'point n' shoot'.

"Composition? We don't need no stinkin' composition!"

Actually though, as far as composition is concerned the LCD is far, far
better than an optical viewfinder in one of those little buggers. Rarely if
ever does an optical viewfinder in a compact camera show more than 80% of
the subject, and what good is that for composition? An LCD shows 100% of
what you'll actually get, or very close to it.

Of course you can't SEE the damn thing in sunlight, but if you could see it
it'd be great for composition. :-)


Now, one company is not just doing one, but they got a second one on the
FRONT of the camera.

The important thing of course is to have a NEW feature in the camera. Next
year: a built-in electric can opener.

Who needs a can opener when they will be building in a microwave?

George Kerby wrote:



On 12/5/09 10:02 PM, in article ,
"Don Lope de wrote:

Why do these ****ers put just an LCD for viewing and no viewfinder if the
LCD is **** in bright daylight? I have to guess where the subject is and
hope for the best. You are dumbasses Nikon! OK, not just Nikon but a lot of
camera companies are doing the same thing. You have to pay another $100.00
just to get a P&S with a viewfinder.

If you bought a Canon, you wouldn't have that problem. Did you pay only
fifty bucks for that "Crude-Pix"?

http://www.nextag.com/canon-sd1200/compare-html

Several Canon point-and-shoots have no optical viewfinder, including the
new SD 980.

Mort

M-M wrote:
That's like saying, "My Porsche drives like crap on the ice."

P&S need good light, so of course they should work in the
sun. It's like saying "My Porsche drives like crap on the
road." "on the ice" would be near darkness for P&S cameras.

-Wolfgang

"George Kerby" wrote in message
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On 12/6/09 11:45 AM, in article
, "Neil Harrington"
wrote:


"George Kerby" wrote in message
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On 12/5/09 10:02 PM, in article
,
"Don Lope de Aguirre" wrote:

Why do these ****ers put just an LCD for viewing and no viewfinder if
the
LCD is **** in bright daylight? I have to guess where the subject is
and
hope for the best. You are dumbasses Nikon! OK, not just Nikon but a
lot
of
camera companies are doing the same thing. You have to pay another
$100.00
just to get a P&S with a viewfinder.

If you bought a Canon, you wouldn't have that problem. Did you pay only
fifty bucks for that "Crude-Pix"?

You're mistaken there, George. Here's the latest Canon Elph, $379.99 and
NO
OPTICAL VIEWFINDER.
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...ategoryid=145&
modelid=18335


Aww! Didja just HAVE to conveniently snip my URL?!?

Sorry, George! I usually do snip after my final comment. I'll try to be more
considerate in the future.


Well, here it is - AGAIN:

http://www.nextag.com/canon-sd1200/compare-html

Like I said: A buck fifty will get you an optical viewfinder with Canon,
as
opposed to that over-rated, over-priced Nikon crap.

Yes, but not on all Canon models as you seemed to imply.

Nikon's abandonment of the optical viewfinder on nearly all Coolpixes is
fairly recent. It's not very long ago that I added a really nice little
Coolpix P50 to my collection. I think I paid about $150 for mine and got
another one for my sister too. Alas, that model has been discontinued and
now there doesn't seem to be any Coolpix in the lineup with an OVF except
for the pricey P6000 -- which has stuff I neither need nor want, such as GPS
and the now usual overload of pixels crammed into its little sensor.

All the compact digicam manufacturers seem to be going in the big-LCD-no-OVF
direction, like it or not. Canon's newest models *all* come without OVF,
except for the G series of course. Likewise all the other makes that I've
looked at. It's pretty much the end of an era as far as viewfinders go.

"Don Lope de Aguirre" wrote in message
...
Why do these ****ers put just an LCD for viewing and no viewfinder if the
LCD is **** in bright daylight? I have to guess where the subject is and
hope for the best. You are dumbasses Nikon! OK, not just Nikon but a lot
of camera companies are doing the same thing. You have to pay another
$100.00 just to get a P&S with a viewfinder.


Or you do what I did with my Kodak Z915:

Parallel 2.5" SS250P (UK DSS4 Parallel) 1 29.95

Screen-Shade



This I got through Yahoo.

In article ,
Rich wrote:
On Dec 5, 11:02*pm, "Don Lope de Aguirre" wrote:
Why do these ****ers put just an LCD for viewing and no viewfinder if the
LCD is **** in bright daylight? I have to guess where the subject is and
hope for the best. You are dumbasses Nikon! OK, not just Nikon but a lot of
camera companies are doing the same thing. You have to pay another $100.00
just to get a P&S with a viewfinder.

All LCDs are crap in sunlight.

The LCD displays on my Garmin GPS navigator, and my Nokia smartphone, are
perfectly and brilliantly readable in direct sunlight - because the
designers took that into account and put a reflective panel behind the
LCD. It's called a transflective display - and it's well past high time
that camera manufacturers started putting them in digital cameras.

Mike S. wrote:

In article ,
Rich wrote:
On Dec 5, 11:02pm, "Don Lope de Aguirre" wrote:
Why do these ****ers put just an LCD for viewing and no viewfinder if the
LCD is **** in bright daylight? I have to guess where the subject is and
hope for the best. You are dumbasses Nikon! OK, not just Nikon but a lot of
camera companies are doing the same thing. You have to pay another $100.00
just to get a P&S with a viewfinder.

All LCDs are crap in sunlight.

The LCD displays on my Garmin GPS navigator, and my Nokia smartphone, are
perfectly and brilliantly readable in direct sunlight - because the
designers took that into account and put a reflective panel behind the
LCD. It's called a transflective display - and it's well past high time
that camera manufacturers started putting them in digital cameras.

I suspect the reason they won't is that transflective displays mess
with colour rendition. The latest backlit displays are a great advance
and perfectly readable in the kind of dismal winter sunlight we get in
Scotland just now. It'll be quite some time before I'll find out how
they fare in bright summer sunlight :-)

--
Chris Malcolm