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  #1  
Old December 23rd 17, 03:04 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
android
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Default Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"

On 2017-12-22 23:52:36 +0000, RichA said:

On Thursday, 21 December 2017 07:50:42 UTC-5, RichA wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745


Lawsuits:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42455285

This is like that egomaniacal a-- Elon Musk telling people if they use
their Tesla's for anything but personal driving, he'd cut off their
ability to charge.


Electrical cars are fuled by that that's i the socket of your wall. Whatever!
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tessla+taxi&iax=images&ia=images&iaf=size%3Aima gesize-large

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teleportation kills

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Old December 23rd 17, 03:22 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"

On 2017-12-23 15:04:31 +0000, android said:

On 2017-12-22 23:52:36 +0000, RichA said:

On Thursday, 21 December 2017 07:50:42 UTC-5, RichA wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745


Lawsuits:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42455285

This is like that egomaniacal a-- Elon Musk telling people if they use
their Tesla's for anything but personal driving, he'd cut off their
ability to charge.


Electrical cars are fuled by that that's i the socket of your wall. Whatever!
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tessla+taxi&iax=images&ia=images&iaf=size%3Aima gesize-large


Maybe a clarification is in order: Electricity are not self generated
so if the last kWh is generated with coal then it's coal that powers
your car and so on... Every time you make an energy conversion from
like coal to electricity you have huge looses in energy efficiency.
Conclusion: electrical cars won't be safe to environment until we
generate electricity with hydrogen reactors.
--
teleportation kills

  #3  
Old December 23rd 17, 03:37 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Carlos E.R.
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Default Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"

On 2017-12-23 16:22, android wrote:
On 2017-12-23 15:04:31 +0000, android said:

On 2017-12-22 23:52:36 +0000, RichA said:

On Thursday, 21 December 2017 07:50:42 UTC-5, RichA¬* wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745

Lawsuits:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42455285

This is like that egomaniacal a-- Elon Musk telling people if they
use their Tesla's for anything but personal driving, he'd cut off
their ability to charge.


Electrical cars are fuled by that that's i the socket of your wall.
Whatever!
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tessla+taxi&iax=images&ia=images&iaf=size%3Aima gesize-large


Maybe a clarification is in order: Electricity are not self generated so
if the last kWh is generated with coal then it's coal that powers your
car and so on... Every time you make an energy conversion from like coal
to electricity you¬* have huge looses in energy efficiency. Conclusion:
electrical cars won't be safe to environment until we generate
electricity with hydrogen reactors.


That is arguable.

For instance, it is possible that fuel is better burnt and with higher
efficiency on those places than in a small car.

Then there are solar plants, windmills, hydro, etc.


--
Cheers, Carlos.
  #4  
Old December 23rd 17, 04:11 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"

On 2017-12-23 15:37:25 +0000, Carlos E.R. said:

On 2017-12-23 16:22, android wrote:
On 2017-12-23 15:04:31 +0000, android said:

On 2017-12-22 23:52:36 +0000, RichA said:

On Thursday, 21 December 2017 07:50:42 UTC-5, RichA* wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745

Lawsuits:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42455285

This is like that egomaniacal a-- Elon Musk telling people if they
use their Tesla's for anything but personal driving, he'd cut off
their ability to charge.

Electrical cars are fuled by that that's i the socket of your wall.
Whatever!
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tessla+taxi&iax=images&ia=images&iaf=size%3Aima gesize-large



Maybe a clarification is in order: Electricity are not self generated so
if the last kWh is generated with coal then it's coal that powers your
car and so on... Every time you make an energy conversion from like coal
to electricity you* have huge looses in energy efficiency. Conclusion:
electrical cars won't be safe to environment until we generate
electricity with hydrogen reactors.


That is arguable.

For instance, it is possible that fuel is better burnt and with higher
efficiency on those places than in a small car.


The combustion engin in cars are way more efficient now than just a few
decades ago. and you can use those with non fossil fuel. You can get
more power now form a 1 liter engin with lover fuel consumption than
from a 2 liter in the mid eighties an yet get more power out of it. And
I 'm talking gas not diesel...

Then there are solar plants, windmills, hydro, etc.


Those do not produce the electricity on the margin used in for
electricity new commodities like cars.
--
teleportation kills

  #5  
Old January 8th 18, 03:00 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"

On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 16:22:23 +0100, android wrote:

On 2017-12-23 15:04:31 +0000, android said:

On 2017-12-22 23:52:36 +0000, RichA said:

On Thursday, 21 December 2017 07:50:42 UTC-5, RichA wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745

Lawsuits:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42455285

This is like that egomaniacal a-- Elon Musk telling people if they use
their Tesla's for anything but personal driving, he'd cut off their
ability to charge.


Electrical cars are fuled by that that's i the socket of your wall. Whatever!
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tessla+taxi&iax=images&ia=images&iaf=size%3Aima gesize-large


Maybe a clarification is in order: Electricity are not self generated
so if the last kWh is generated with coal then it's coal that powers
your car and so on... Every time you make an energy conversion from
like coal to electricity you have huge looses in energy efficiency.
Conclusion: electrical cars won't be safe to environment until we
generate electricity with hydrogen reactors.


... or new types of nuclear reactors.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #6  
Old January 8th 18, 06:57 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
android
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Posts: 3,613
Default Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"

On 2018-01-08 03:00:46 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 16:22:23 +0100, android wrote:

On 2017-12-23 15:04:31 +0000, android said:

On 2017-12-22 23:52:36 +0000, RichA said:

On Thursday, 21 December 2017 07:50:42 UTC-5, RichA wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745

Lawsuits:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42455285

This is like that egomaniacal a-- Elon Musk telling people if they use
their Tesla's for anything but personal driving, he'd cut off their
ability to charge.

Electrical cars are fuled by that that's i the socket of your wall. Whatever!
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tessla+taxi&iax=images&ia=images&iaf=size%3Aima gesize-large



Maybe a clarification is in order: Electricity are not self generated
so if the last kWh is generated with coal then it's coal that powers
your car and so on... Every time you make an energy conversion from
like coal to electricity you have huge looses in energy efficiency.
Conclusion: electrical cars won't be safe to environment until we
generate electricity with hydrogen reactors.


... or new types of nuclear reactors.


Fission, uranium reactors are safe handled safely. Fusion, hydrogen
would be even safer, unless Goldfinger gets the one he has on
backorder...
--
teleportation kills

  #7  
Old January 8th 18, 09:14 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"

On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 07:57:42 +0100, android wrote:

On 2018-01-08 03:00:46 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 16:22:23 +0100, android wrote:

On 2017-12-23 15:04:31 +0000, android said:

On 2017-12-22 23:52:36 +0000, RichA said:

On Thursday, 21 December 2017 07:50:42 UTC-5, RichA wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745

Lawsuits:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42455285

This is like that egomaniacal a-- Elon Musk telling people if they use
their Tesla's for anything but personal driving, he'd cut off their
ability to charge.

Electrical cars are fuled by that that's i the socket of your wall. Whatever!
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tessla+taxi&iax=images&ia=images&iaf=size%3Aima gesize-large



Maybe a clarification is in order: Electricity are not self generated
so if the last kWh is generated with coal then it's coal that powers
your car and so on... Every time you make an energy conversion from
like coal to electricity you have huge looses in energy efficiency.
Conclusion: electrical cars won't be safe to environment until we
generate electricity with hydrogen reactors.


... or new types of nuclear reactors.


Fission, uranium reactors are safe handled safely. Fusion, hydrogen
would be even safer, unless Goldfinger gets the one he has on
backorder...


Molten salt reactors are even better.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #8  
Old January 8th 18, 11:53 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
android
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Default Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"

On 2018-01-08 09:14:36 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 07:57:42 +0100, android wrote:

On 2018-01-08 03:00:46 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 16:22:23 +0100, android wrote:

On 2017-12-23 15:04:31 +0000, android said:

On 2017-12-22 23:52:36 +0000, RichA said:

On Thursday, 21 December 2017 07:50:42 UTC-5, RichA wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745

Lawsuits:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42455285

This is like that egomaniacal a-- Elon Musk telling people if they use
their Tesla's for anything but personal driving, he'd cut off their
ability to charge.

Electrical cars are fuled by that that's i the socket of your wall. Whatever!
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tessla+taxi&iax=images&ia=images&iaf=size%3Aima gesize-large




Maybe a clarification is in order: Electricity are not self generated
so if the last kWh is generated with coal then it's coal that powers
your car and so on... Every time you make an energy conversion from
like coal to electricity you have huge looses in energy efficiency.
Conclusion: electrical cars won't be safe to environment until we
generate electricity with hydrogen reactors.

... or new types of nuclear reactors.


Fission, uranium reactors are safe handled safely. Fusion, hydrogen
would be even safer, unless Goldfinger gets the one he has on
backorder...


Molten salt reactors are even better.


MSRs are fission reactors and there will be waste. They have different
coolant but the nuclear process is the same. Keep it simple 'till you
know what you're doing... Fussion is the future.
--
teleportation kills

  #9  
Old January 9th 18, 02:27 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"

On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 12:53:30 +0100, android wrote:

On 2018-01-08 09:14:36 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 07:57:42 +0100, android wrote:

On 2018-01-08 03:00:46 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 16:22:23 +0100, android wrote:

On 2017-12-23 15:04:31 +0000, android said:

On 2017-12-22 23:52:36 +0000, RichA said:

On Thursday, 21 December 2017 07:50:42 UTC-5, RichA wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745

Lawsuits:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42455285

This is like that egomaniacal a-- Elon Musk telling people if they use
their Tesla's for anything but personal driving, he'd cut off their
ability to charge.

Electrical cars are fuled by that that's i the socket of your wall. Whatever!
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tessla+taxi&iax=images&ia=images&iaf=size%3Aima gesize-large




Maybe a clarification is in order: Electricity are not self generated
so if the last kWh is generated with coal then it's coal that powers
your car and so on... Every time you make an energy conversion from
like coal to electricity you have huge looses in energy efficiency.
Conclusion: electrical cars won't be safe to environment until we
generate electricity with hydrogen reactors.

... or new types of nuclear reactors.

Fission, uranium reactors are safe handled safely. Fusion, hydrogen
would be even safer, unless Goldfinger gets the one he has on
backorder...


Molten salt reactors are even better.


MSRs are fission reactors and there will be waste. They have different
coolant but the nuclear process is the same. Keep it simple 'till you
know what you're doing... Fussion is the future.


Keep it simple - or have fusion. Have any one of two.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #10  
Old January 9th 18, 02:32 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default Apple admits hobbling old phones to "save batteries"

On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 06:57:00 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:

On Monday, 8 January 2018 04:14:40 UTC-5, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 07:57:42 +0100, android wrote:

On 2018-01-08 03:00:46 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 16:22:23 +0100, android wrote:

On 2017-12-23 15:04:31 +0000, android said:

On 2017-12-22 23:52:36 +0000, RichA said:

On Thursday, 21 December 2017 07:50:42 UTC-5, RichA wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745

Lawsuits:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42455285

This is like that egomaniacal a-- Elon Musk telling people if they use
their Tesla's for anything but personal driving, he'd cut off their
ability to charge.

Electrical cars are fuled by that that's i the socket of your wall. Whatever!
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tessla+taxi&iax=images&ia=images&iaf=size%3Aima gesize-large



Maybe a clarification is in order: Electricity are not self generated
so if the last kWh is generated with coal then it's coal that powers
your car and so on... Every time you make an energy conversion from
like coal to electricity you have huge looses in energy efficiency.
Conclusion: electrical cars won't be safe to environment until we
generate electricity with hydrogen reactors.

... or new types of nuclear reactors.

Fission, uranium reactors are safe handled safely. Fusion, hydrogen
would be even safer, unless Goldfinger gets the one he has on
backorder...


Molten salt reactors are even better.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens


Thorium, molten sodium, etc. If these reactors were ever viable, they'd already have been built.


The US did a lot of work on molten salt reactors in the 1960s and 70s.
In the event Nixon pulled the plug on them for (a) political reasons
and (b) because they wouldn't produce weapons grade material.
Incredibly, the results of all the research work was destroyed.

China has bee working on them for several years and say that they
intend that by the time they reach commercial viability China will own
all the patents.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
 




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