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What is the oldest digital pic you have on your computer?
Annika1980 writes:
This question got me to thinking. I started shooting digitally about 10 years ago, but many of my early efforts (taken with a 2.1MP Kodak) are stored away on some CDs somewhere or in an old hard drive I don't even have easy access to these days. I do have pretty much everything from late 2002 on, which is when I got my Canon D60. The only problem is storage space since they take up a few Terabytes. I used to shoot quite a lot of film as well and I still have many negatives and slides, very few of which have been scanned. I don't even think my old scanners and software will work on my new computer. I wonder how many of these images will still be around in another 10 or 20 years? An even scarier thought is what if something happens to the drive(s) I have them backed up on? Poof! The last 10 years of photography gone forever. But on the other hand, if I haven't used or profited from those pix by now, what does it matter? Very few of the photos I've taken have been seen by anyone besides me, despite the fact that I post a good number of photos online. So who really cares if they go away? Most of my old negatives were never seen by anybody but me, either. Let's see; oldest image on my computer might be...probably this http://dd-b.net/cgi-bin/picpage.pl/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/1956?pic=mdb-alb01-00025. 1956, taken by my mother, scanned by me from a print. The oldest photo I took on my website is probably http://dd-b.net/cgi-bin/picpage.pl/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/1964?pic=ddb%203-10, summer of 1964. Shot with my Pixie 127, and scanned (from the negative) rather later). The oldest digital capture I have up on my website is probably http://dd-b.net/cgi-bin/picpage.pl/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/2000/Pittsburgh%20Feb%202000?pic=02230003, Feb. 2000. So far as I'm aware I still have every digital photo I've ever taken that I didn't deliberately delete. The digital versions can fairly easily be maintained forever -- but somebody has to be paying attention routinely. All mine live on the running hard drives on the server (mirrored pairs there), plus are backed up on three external drives that I take off-site in turn. Plus I have optical disks of most of the photos, most of them old; but I'm not throwing them out, they're another string to the recovery bow if things go pear-shaped. Of course, if I stop paying attention, the photos probably won't last that long. Digital archives properly managed can be eternal, but digital data doesn't do very well under benign neglect. And historically nearly everything we have from the ancient world got to us by lasting through at least a century or two of neglect. But for my lifetime, if the house burns, I'll lose the physical books and the physical photos, but not the digital books and the digital photos (including scans of the physical photos). -- David Dyer-Bennet, ; http://dd-b.net/ Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/ Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/ Dragaera: http://dragaera.info |
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What is the oldest digital pic you have on your computer?
On 2011-12-12 16:50:41 -0800, David Dyer-Bennet said:
Annika1980 writes: This question got me to thinking. I started shooting digitally about 10 years ago, but many of my early efforts (taken with a 2.1MP Kodak) are stored away on some CDs somewhere or in an old hard drive I don't even have easy access to these days. I do have pretty much everything from late 2002 on, which is when I got my Canon D60. The only problem is storage space since they take up a few Terabytes. I used to shoot quite a lot of film as well and I still have many negatives and slides, very few of which have been scanned. I don't even think my old scanners and software will work on my new computer. I wonder how many of these images will still be around in another 10 or 20 years? An even scarier thought is what if something happens to the drive(s) I have them backed up on? Poof! The last 10 years of photography gone forever. But on the other hand, if I haven't used or profited from those pix by now, what does it matter? Very few of the photos I've taken have been seen by anyone besides me, despite the fact that I post a good number of photos online. So who really cares if they go away? Most of my old negatives were never seen by anybody but me, either. Let's see; oldest image on my computer might be...probably this http://dd-b.net/cgi-bin/picpage.pl/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/1956?pic=mdb-alb01-00025. 1956, taken by my mother, scanned by me from a print. Well if we are getting into "old" this is a scan of my wife's grandmother's bridal shot. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Evans-05AW1Cw.jpg Then there is my father is 1928. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Howard-7w.jpg ....and for an early shot of yours truly, here I am in 1950 with my two older cousins looming over me. Taken by my father with a C3. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/LGJ-Afw.jpg The oldest photo I took on my website is probably http://dd-b.net/cgi-bin/picpage.pl/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/1964?pic=ddb%203-10, summer of 1964. Shot with my Pixie 127, and scanned (from the negative) rather later). This 1966 shot of my shooting buddy shot with a Spotmatic is one of the oldest shots of mine I could dig up at short notice. The oldest digital capture I have up on my website is probably http://dd-b.net/cgi-bin/picpage.pl/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/2000/Pittsburgh%20Feb%202000?pic=02230003, Feb. 2000. My earliest digital capture is this October 2001 Coolpix 775 shot. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSCN0003.JPG So far as I'm aware I still have every digital photo I've ever taken that I didn't deliberately delete. Same here. The digital versions can fairly easily be maintained forever -- but somebody has to be paying attention routinely. All mine live on the running hard drives on the server (mirrored pairs there), plus are backed up on three external drives that I take off-site in turn. Plus I have optical disks of most of the photos, most of them old; but I'm not throwing them out, they're another string to the recovery bow if things go pear-shaped. Of course, if I stop paying attention, the photos probably won't last that long. Digital archives properly managed can be eternal, but digital data doesn't do very well under benign neglect. And historically nearly everything we have from the ancient world got to us by lasting through at least a century or two of neglect. But for my lifetime, if the house burns, I'll lose the physical books and the physical photos, but not the digital books and the digital photos (including scans of the physical photos). I haven't quite gone to those lengths to preserve things. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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What is the oldest digital pic you have on your computer?
Savageduck writes:
On 2011-12-12 16:50:41 -0800, David Dyer-Bennet said: Annika1980 writes: This question got me to thinking. I started shooting digitally about 10 years ago, but many of my early efforts (taken with a 2.1MP Kodak) are stored away on some CDs somewhere or in an old hard drive I don't even have easy access to these days. I do have pretty much everything from late 2002 on, which is when I got my Canon D60. The only problem is storage space since they take up a few Terabytes. I used to shoot quite a lot of film as well and I still have many negatives and slides, very few of which have been scanned. I don't even think my old scanners and software will work on my new computer. I wonder how many of these images will still be around in another 10 or 20 years? An even scarier thought is what if something happens to the drive(s) I have them backed up on? Poof! The last 10 years of photography gone forever. But on the other hand, if I haven't used or profited from those pix by now, what does it matter? Very few of the photos I've taken have been seen by anyone besides me, despite the fact that I post a good number of photos online. So who really cares if they go away? Most of my old negatives were never seen by anybody but me, either. Let's see; oldest image on my computer might be...probably this http://dd-b.net/cgi-bin/picpage.pl/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/1956?pic=mdb-alb01-00025. 1956, taken by my mother, scanned by me from a print. Well if we are getting into "old" this is a scan of my wife's grandmother's bridal shot. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Evans-05AW1Cw.jpg Then there is my father is 1928. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Howard-7w.jpg I've got some older prints from others, but haven't scanned much. Ah, I know where I overlooked. Here's a shot of my father and his two brothers from 1922 http://john.dyer-bennet.net/cgi-bin/picpage.pl/photos/data?pic=dick-fred-john. ...and for an early shot of yours truly, here I am in 1950 with my two older cousins looming over me. Taken by my father with a C3. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/LGJ-Afw.jpg Nice. I knew one kid in highschool with me still using a C3, and as I've learned more about them, they're really pretty remarkable cameras. My mother was the photographer in the family, and used a Bolsey 35 up until about 1964, when they got her a Minolta rangefinder. The new Minolta actually had a light meter! I inherited the Bolsey in time for the 1966-67 year in Switzerland, but I guess it just sat around from 1964 until then, because my summer 1964 pictures were with my old Pixie. The Bolsey required judging exposure by eye (or using the advice on the film data sheet), maybe they figured I was too young to do that reliably at 10. They were probably wrong. The oldest photo I took on my website is probably http://dd-b.net/cgi-bin/picpage.pl/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/1964?pic=ddb%203-10, summer of 1964. Shot with my Pixie 127, and scanned (from the negative) rather later). This 1966 shot of my shooting buddy shot with a Spotmatic is one of the oldest shots of mine I could dig up at short notice. I finally managed to upgrade to an SLR in 1969. Brand new Miranda Sensorex, which was a mistake (I'd argue that either a Spotmatic or a Nikkormat would have been a better choice; I traded to a Spotmatic after I bought a Leica M3 around 1973, and got a Nikon FM in 1980). The oldest digital capture I have up on my website is probably http://dd-b.net/cgi-bin/picpage.pl/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/2000/Pittsburgh%20Feb%202000?pic=02230003, Feb. 2000. My earliest digital capture is this October 2001 Coolpix 775 shot. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSCN0003.JPG The Coolpix line around 2000 were really pretty good. I ended up with an Epson 850Z myself, which had advantages and drawbacks. Moved on into DSLRs in 2002 (well, the last day of December 2002 is when it arrived; a Fuji S2). So far as I'm aware I still have every digital photo I've ever taken that I didn't deliberately delete. Same here. And there are some film photos I haven't been able to find lately. The digital versions can fairly easily be maintained forever -- but somebody has to be paying attention routinely. All mine live on the running hard drives on the server (mirrored pairs there), plus are backed up on three external drives that I take off-site in turn. Plus I have optical disks of most of the photos, most of them old; but I'm not throwing them out, they're another string to the recovery bow if things go pear-shaped. Of course, if I stop paying attention, the photos probably won't last that long. Digital archives properly managed can be eternal, but digital data doesn't do very well under benign neglect. And historically nearly everything we have from the ancient world got to us by lasting through at least a century or two of neglect. But for my lifetime, if the house burns, I'll lose the physical books and the physical photos, but not the digital books and the digital photos (including scans of the physical photos). I haven't quite gone to those lengths to preserve things. Scanning old negatives has been very productive; things that become important (largely as people die off), and things that I couldn't print back then (either my darkroom skills weren't up to it, or the neg simply works better scanned). This has focused my attention on the value of keeping the old photos around. -- David Dyer-Bennet, ; http://dd-b.net/ Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/ Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/ Dragaera: http://dragaera.info |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:28:18 -0800, Savageduck
wrote: Well if we are getting into "old" this is a scan of my wife's grandmother's bridal shot. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Evans-05AW1Cw.jpg Some of those old photographers' backdrops were pretty amazing. |
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On 2011-12-13 13:21:17 -0800, rwalker said:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:28:18 -0800, Savageduck wrote: Well if we are getting into "old" this is a scan of my wife's grandmother's bridal shot. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Evans-05AW1Cw.jpg Some of those old photographers' backdrops were pretty amazing. That wasn't a backdrop. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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What is the oldest digital pic you have on your computer?
On 12/13/11 PDT 3:21 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2011-12-13 13:21:17 -0800, rwalker said: On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:28:18 -0800, Savageduck wrote: Well if we are getting into "old" this is a scan of my wife's grandmother's bridal shot. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Evans-05AW1Cw.jpg Some of those old photographers' backdrops were pretty amazing. That wasn't a backdrop. Quite. But what is the area between the stairway pillar post and the subject? Is that airbrushing, repair, or what? Great photo! |
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On 2011-12-13 16:14:35 -0800, John McWilliams said:
On 12/13/11 PDT 3:21 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2011-12-13 13:21:17 -0800, rwalker said: On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:28:18 -0800, Savageduck wrote: Well if we are getting into "old" this is a scan of my wife's grandmother's bridal shot. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Evans-05AW1Cw.jpg Some of those old photographers' backdrops were pretty amazing. That wasn't a backdrop. Quite. But what is the area between the stairway pillar post and the subject? Is that airbrushing, repair, or what? Great photo! If you are referring to the right side of the image, I believe that is a filtered sunlight coming through the lead light windows. It might also be an artifact off a plate. The only repair on that image was fixing a tear to the mat, a fix in the upper left corner, and some spots. The house was a manor in Ireland belonging to the bride's, Allardyce family. Here is the image pre-my-repair. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Evans-05Aw.jpg -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 12/13/11 PDT 4:52 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2011-12-13 16:14:35 -0800, John McWilliams said: On 12/13/11 PDT 3:21 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2011-12-13 13:21:17 -0800, rwalker said: On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:28:18 -0800, Savageduck wrote: Well if we are getting into "old" this is a scan of my wife's grandmother's bridal shot. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Evans-05AW1Cw.jpg Some of those old photographers' backdrops were pretty amazing. That wasn't a backdrop. Quite. But what is the area between the stairway pillar post and the subject? Is that airbrushing, repair, or what? Great photo! If you are referring to the right side of the image, I believe that is a filtered sunlight coming through the lead light windows. It might also be an artifact off a plate. The only repair on that image was fixing a tear to the mat, a fix in the upper left corner, and some spots. The house was a manor in Ireland belonging to the bride's, Allardyce family. Here is the image pre-my-repair. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Evans-05Aw.jpg Ah, nice work, too! The area at first blush looks like something was done- indeed the angle matches that of the light through the window, but it actually reaches up too high up the post and ceiling where the two meet. Might it have been to repair a defect in the neg. At time of printing? Or to obscure something on the wall or an apparition coming down the stairs behind her? S |
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:21:57 -0800, Savageduck
wrote: On 2011-12-13 13:21:17 -0800, rwalker said: On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:28:18 -0800, Savageduck wrote: Well if we are getting into "old" this is a scan of my wife's grandmother's bridal shot. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Evans-05AW1Cw.jpg Some of those old photographers' backdrops were pretty amazing. That wasn't a backdrop. All the more impressive then! I have some photos of this vintage of various ancestors, but they all appear to have been done in a studio with painted backgrouinds. |
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:52:32 -0800, Savageduck
wrote: On 2011-12-13 16:14:35 -0800, John McWilliams said: On 12/13/11 PDT 3:21 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2011-12-13 13:21:17 -0800, rwalker said: On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:28:18 -0800, Savageduck wrote: Well if we are getting into "old" this is a scan of my wife's grandmother's bridal shot. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Evans-05AW1Cw.jpg Some of those old photographers' backdrops were pretty amazing. That wasn't a backdrop. Quite. But what is the area between the stairway pillar post and the subject? Is that airbrushing, repair, or what? Great photo! If you are referring to the right side of the image, I believe that is a filtered sunlight coming through the lead light windows. It might also be an artifact off a plate. The only repair on that image was fixing a tear to the mat, a fix in the upper left corner, and some spots. The house was a manor in Ireland belonging to the bride's, Allardyce family. Here is the image pre-my-repair. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Evans-05Aw.jpg Was that a contact print? Regards, Eric Stevens |
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