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The Adolescent RebelliHOWES Stage - FACT, FICTION, MYTH Or The PREDICTABLE RESULT OF MISHANDLING?
The Adolescent RebelliHOWES Stage -
FACT, FICTION, MYTH Or The PREDICTABLE RESULT OF MISHANDLING? HOWEDY People, As you've SEEN, The Amazing Puppy Wizard has IDENTIFIED EXXXPOSED and DISCREDITED most every professional trainer and veterinary behaviorist in creation. While there's little The Amazing Puppy Wizard hasn't DISCUSSED in detail, the MYTH abHOWET the so called adolescent rebelliHOWES stage is WON such falsehood the EXXXPERT PROFESSIONAL LYING DOG ABUSING PUNK THUG COWARDS RELY ON to COVER UP for their INABILITY to HOWEtwit the cunning of the domestic puppy dog which The Amazing Puppy Wizard cannot tolerate nodoGgamened longer. Dogs owned by "RESPONSIBLE dog lovers" are TRADITIONALLY UNNECESSARILY INAPUPRIATELY surgically MUTILATED or NEUTERED, therefore they NEVER GO THROUGH so called developmental stages as a NORMAL critter would. SO HOWE CAN THEY GO THROUGH the so called NORMAL NATURAL "adolescent rebelliHOWES DEVELOPEMENTAL STAGES?" in an effort to take over his own pack leadership? THEY CAN'T. The so called adolescent rebelliHOWES stages are A LIE. RebelliHOWESNESS is CAUSED BY MISHANDLING. If your dog is havin ADOLESCENT REBELLIHOWES PROBLEMS it's on accHOWENT of you're a dog abuser. The Amazing Puppy Wizard {) ; ~ ) |
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On 14 Feb 2005 14:20:13 -0800, "I Am"
wrote: HOWEDY People, This guy isn't annoying enough on rec.pets.dogs? He has to cross post to photo groups? |
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DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS, and YOU KNOW IT: Subject: Discipline Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:43:46 -0500 From: Amanda To: On Wednesday 15 January 2003 01:54, "N wrote: i responded in katie's mail.. youll get it before this one i'm not the expert.. mr. howe is teaching me.. and im figuring alot out.. plus its just coming to me.. two months ago i would cry cuz i was soooo lost... and now i go ahead and live it... like he gave me just enough for my brain to fill in the rest? when i would swat in my early parent years.. up until i got crunchy this last year.. i swore spanking was great.. a lil bit of fear in yo' momma is what i would say.. and my family supported me.. you can spank and not be abusive. then i felt guilty... not because i knew better, but becuase you guys and others did it wihtout spanking.. better than me... but i would still say i just have bad kids.. then i started feeling guilty.. asked for help.. got some advice and it worked some.. but not much.. enought to make me think i did it.. then it wouldn't help.. then i heard him tell someone on the news group "Do you think hitting babies is intelligent" and i was like whoa.. now i feel like cocka and pray every time i distract them that they can somehow grow up not to hate me.. and i pray i caugh myself in enough time. On Friday 27 December 2002 14:52, Amanda wrote: Ugh.. I feel so stupid. Now I see all of my mistakes. And I feel so retarded. I can write a writ of mandamus and and somehow understand property law.. but this is... well.. confusing. I read the manual.. I have a photographic memory and for the life of me cannot figure out why I still am mishandling my dog when I have the frigging manual! Although, lemme tell you.. your emails are much more ... easier to understand? Anywho.. Kelly shared water with moo today and let him eat.. she hates her food and likes his.. so i serve one bowl.. tonight she barked at our neighbors dog while he ate.. and then she ate. She growled at the lil girl she nipped.. Ayla.. the handicapped one. I had Sara (her mum) hold her on the floor with moo (kelly was nursing, ayla came close and kelly growled) while chris had kelly on a lead (no slack, but for safety reasons.. cuz if kelly nipped and someone found out she could be labeled aggressive).. and kelly did beautifully. She sat, downed and stayed.. and lemme tell ya.. first time this dog ever stayed.. and when i got sick of the barking i stuck my head out the door and yelled good girl.. and she came right in.... tomorrow we are going to petsmart to really work the praise with strangers and other dogs (screw the idiot who says i shouldn't use a retractable lead.. i know my dog).. and we'll do the fplx somewhere on our way there.. perhaps an empty lot... Are all of the people you help in this much need of hand holding? Cuz I still feel like a dolt despite my dog learning this stuff in miliseconds and succeeding far better than i.. despite the peepee on my floor last night. -----Original Message----- From: Amanda [mailto: ] Sent: Tuesday, January 14,2003 Subject: Discipline On Tuesday 14 January 2003 20:47, T__ wrote: funny you bring this up... i met the most wonderful couple.. man and wife.. he's a dog trainer.. all his life who uses a technique that is ONLY praise and distraction with some family pack exercises. They spent the day with us sunday helping me on my two pits... one is a protective/aggressive 20 month old female who is my bubby and our 7 week male pup. anyway.. not only did i nip any and all aggression issues in mere minutes... he and his wife helped me with my kids. I was and always have been a spanker. It is all i knew how.. i never, ever wanted to be.. but i was. my house/kids were out of control.. i was always stressed. Since he and his wife came down sunday we've had a HUGE change... for the first time the kids didn't destroy my house before i woke up... my 3yo was in my bed coloring waiting for us to wake up... this is the first time she ever used paper she usually does walls, furniture. Anyway.. he told me to use sound/praise.. and it works. I have a 6 yo, 3.5 yo who is psycho child and a very bad-a$$ 19 month old. They are all smarter than I am and know it There has not been a temper tantrum in two days in my house. You guys have no idea how great this is. But best of all.. this method does NOT use the evil eye or a tone of that is in any way short of absolute praise.. no shouting.. not even a quiet Chloe!.. nada.. ONLY praise. They even taught my kids not to take candy unless i say so.. (my oldest will literally let you pierce her ears for candy.. it's been done twice and i keep taking em out) and now the bag of blow pops i forget on the floor in my closet (where we keep the girl's dressed) is still there and NO ONE has eaten one! My 3 yo is even helping me pick up the house.. the baby took my lingerie chest apart.. and she cleaned it up! first time! They don't even go out the open door without my offering it! they helped me sort laundry.. clean the living room... im amazed. The 3 yo got some yogurt from the fridge andwalked to our kitchen table, sat down and ate it.. she REFUSES to sit at the table and eat! We also taught them and the dogs to sit pretty so when they're climbing on my couch.. i go Can you show me how you sit pretty?? and they ALL hop down and show me to sit pretty with their feet NOT on the cofee table.. hands friggin folded.. i almost fell over.. thanks for reminding me to share my joy! I'm not a spanker! I don't even yell! lol! here i picked names that shout well and i don't need em!!! Subject: Possessiveness- toys/food w/ children Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 17:04:57 GMT Subject: Re Discipline. Also, SLEEP! Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:38:46 -0500 From: Amanda Can you go into this a little more? How did they accomplish all this in one day? My learning is progressive. I email or call him with questions. But, i'm getting most of it myself. Something clicked. How would we do it with our families? that is kind of broad.. ask me specifics... or i'd still be typing when your kids are in college I really have problems controlling my temper when I am already stressed out and then C__ is hurting me: Me too.. i was abused... my mom was psycho... and i had problems with anger.. i took it personally when my 6 yr old wouldn't clean her room... i would sometimes cry is was so strung out.. i didn't wanna spank but i didn't know what to do instead.. so i spanked.. and then spanking didn't work.. and then my dogs went nuts and i called this trainer and he showed me how to do it. pulling my hair, scratching me, slapping me, etc. Mine hit me on purpose alot.. scratching.. climbing on me.. hurting me and then laughing. Now as I post.. please don't think im trying to be a know it all.. i simply wanna relay what i have learned... as it is i've only been spank free for a week now and yell free for two days (my neighbors two streets over are happy Children, dogs, people.. they do thinks wrong because it elicits your ultimate attention. Does your 3 year old enjoy fingerpainting on walls? no... do they enjoy fighting the minute you pick up the phone?? No. They *know* they can command your attention.. and that's what they want. same reason your dogs fight.. they think it is controlling you. Your kids want you watching their every move.. making sure they eat.. dont talk to strangers.. because it means you are watching THEM and not them watching you as it should be. they should stay within x feet of you.. because they like mom and she's cool and she keeps em safe... they shouldn't run and expect you to chase them.. because you won't always be there to chase them... that's how kids die or get lost. When they learn to follow you.. it's all good. Now, take my 19 mo old. She had this habit of sipping 4 oz from her bottle and demanding more. if i didn't refill it.. she threw a hgue fit. Now she hands me her bottle and says more.. and i tickle her... then i pick up her bottle and pretend im drinking it.. i offer her a drink and snatch it back saying MY Baba!! She wants that bottle.. so she takes it and drinks it.. even tho i didn't refill it. we had a huge problem with them taking things they cant have and when i wanted it they ran... now i give the baby (19mo) my finger.. and she grabs it.. and i wiggle and shout My finger! that's mine! Gimme it back.. playfully.. and she resists.. and i go "Ooh.. can i have it please?" and she gives it to me and i gleefully say Thank you! and she says you're welcome.. and i give her the finger back... then i hand her say a lighter... and we wrestle for a minute.. and i say... can i have that??? and she gives it over etc. Of course sometimes she'll have a cool! book! and ill ask can i have that.. and shell say No. and i say that's ok! and tickle her or snap my fingers and say good girl naya.. good job.. then ill start my game again and wrestle and try to take it gently... then.. can i have that??? she gives it over. this works with everything now. Or when he's ripping up my homework or something like that. Yea... with the dog training you hide nothing.. no forced control. you set the dog up for fail.. so you can distract and praise and erase the thought.. same with the kids. Put some unimportant paper all over.. when he goes to touch it.. make a sound and distract him.. then good boy, that's a nice baby!... then repeat.. the minute he goes for the paper and breaks the thgouth you throw him in the air and praise like mad! How would I apply this in those situations? Also, what do you do in 'danger' situations (until you're close enough to distract them) - climbing on things, sticking metal objects into electrical outlets, trying to get into the oven, etc.? Use your judgement.. if you have the distance/time to distract... do it.. if you don't... pick them up and away.. but act like it's to throw em in the air.. so they don't know youre forcing control by phsycially removing them... cuz when you force control.. with the come command when you want your dog away from something... or when you pull a dirty shoe from your baby's mouth.. you put value on it. Like when your kid puts a penny in its mouth.. youll try to pry its mouth open to get it... and he'll clamp right down.. you gave that penny VALUE! it's not just a piece of crap.. mom WANTS IT! so.. instead you make a game.. say you want em to smit it out... walk somewhere else... attract their attention.. be kinda sneaky... odds are the thing in their mought will get annoying and they'll spit it out when they walk toward you... if all else fails.. pry it outta their smiling jaws... snatch em up away from falling down... but only when you have to.. then work realy hard to overcome that forced control. Also don't make a big deal about it.. or else theyll learn not only to command your attention, but also mom will always catch me so she is watching me.. not me watching her. I never realized how spirited C__ was until I started tending other kids. those are my kids. I have had social workers with their degrees in child development stop offering me services cuz they couldn't handle my kids... my friends call mine the obstinate kids. They're docile kittens compared to C__! This brings up another question - what do you do when YOUR child is the bully? if you catch it before it happens.. loud sound.. big distraction and PRAISE. if you catch it afterward... distract and say oh my goodness! and pay attention to the other kid... he wont get the attention... then explain how that hurts. odds are your kid won't hurt another kid if he truly understands its not nice. C__ is always beating the other boy over the head when he comes over. We don't hit in anger in our family i have.. everyone does in my family... i did it a few times over 4 years... but that is because i didn't know how not to. i know now.. and i wanna tell everyone i can.. so someone else doesn't spank their kids due to a lack of knowledge. (we do it playfully sometimes, so we are curtailing that in case it is giving him ideas) my kids, 6yo, 3yo and 19 month old, favorite game is chasing around the house (all 4 of us) with wooden spools yelling at the top of our lungs "I'm gonna beat your a$$.. HA HA HA... no IM gonna beat YOUR a$$ MU HA HA HA" my neighbors prolly think im nuts.. but the kids love it dog even plays too but I admit that after I have been trying to get him to go to sleep for 45 minutes, I get a little rough sometimes. It's really frustrating. He'll be dead tired - eyes bright red, fussy, eyes almost closing every 5 seconds. It gets worse... they all do it around that time.. they don't want to sleep.. andyou know what? they don't grow out of it until they're parents it's one of those times you have to use your patience and keep distracting and praising. So I'll take him into the bedroom, and lay down to nurse him. He'll nurse for about 5 seconds and then jump up and run to the window and start bending the blinds. he wants you upset.. he wants your undivided attention. you have to refuse it.. no evil eye.. no "conner" quiet or not.. no anger.. complete nonchalance.. they have to have a total complete entire lack fo negative attention.. and all they'll be able to do is sit back and enjoy the positive! One shout.. one name call.. one No! and it takes awhile to work up to the positive only. So I gently pick him up and lay him back down. try not to.. but if you have to ok And we repeat the process over 10000 times. when he goes to sit up.. when yous see the thought on his face.. distract with sound and follow with praise or a song or giggle. Then I get frustrated and lay him down less gently. better than my method of plop em in the crib and let em cry. No anger.. stay calm.. meditate, pray.. breath.. try to remember they will not always be this small.. and youll never, ever for anything get it back. it's what im using That makes him cry, which is the last straw that FINALLY gets him to nurse to sleep. He got you riled up.. what he wanted.. time to sleep. Writing it out, I thought of something. He must have a lot of excess tension he needs to release before sleeping, and finally crying releases it for him. no way... crying isn't a release.. sometimes.. maybe for some people.. crying is frustration, pain, hunger, sadness... sometimes joy.. sometimes tension.. but not because of his life.. because he's insecure... their dealing with negative and positive.. and thats what makes em insecure. Any good ways to do this that don't involve crying? distraction and praise.. if all else fails get up and dance.. fast for day.. slow rocking at night. Turning on soft music and swaying in the sling used to work for us, but now he either grabs at everything he can reach or bends over backwards until he's hanging upside down. cuzhe knows what you're doing. hold him instead.. or sit him in your lap on the bed and rock Putting the sling over his shoulders to prevent that doesn't work either. He acts like he is being tortured and screams and fights to get out. because it is forced control. Katie "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." ~ Mohandas Gandhi -- Adapted with permission from his FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method manual. } ; ~ ) There are NO grey areas between RIGHT and WRONG. "If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them, you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears, one destroys." Chief Dan George "Only the unenlightened speak of wisdom and right action as separate, not the wise. If any man knows one, he enjoys the fruit of both. The level which is reached by wisdom is attained through right action as well. He who perceives that the two are one knows the truth." "Even the wise man acts in character with his nature, indeed all creatures act according to their natures. What is the use of compulsion then? The love and hate which are aroused by the objects of sense arise from Nature, do not yield to them. They only obstruct the path." -- Bhagavad Gita, adapted by Krishna with permission from His FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual {) ; ~ ) Force training JERRYIZES dogs and GETS THEM DEAD All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer "Thank you for fighting the fine fight-- even tho it's a hopeless task, in this system of things. As long as man is ruling man, there will be animals (and humans!) abused and neglected. :-( Your student," Juanita. "If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow," John Wayne. ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES? ,-._,-, V)"(V (_o_) Have a great day! / V) (l l l) Your Puppy Wizard. {}YPW; ~ } oo-oo The Amazing Puppy Wizard. {} ; ~ ) "Lynn K." wrote in message om... (Michael Erskine) wrote in message om... Anyone got ideas on what to do with this dog that might help him to decide that he wants to follow and that he has nothing to fear from me? From: Lynn Kosmakos ) Subject: What *did* happen to Fritz? Date: 2001-01-05 13:39:53 PST Dserthorse wrote: I remember reading posts about him, and seeing his photos at a binary newsgroup. I know he died :-( I never knew what did happen, and I assumed he had a previously unknown health problem. Robert put Fritz down for aggression problems. Lynn K. From: Lynn Kosmakos ) Subject: DOMINANCE ANSWERS = Crim Writes About Koehler's "Methods' Date: 2000/09/20 Terri McAuley wrote: I sincerely believe that this dog was an genetic mess and that I still feel that the end would have been the same, no matter what method of training was or was not used. I believe the same, and said so to Robert at the time. He was in a great deal of pain and looking for answers that were not readily available. That doesn't mean that the answers he grasped at were correct. Lynn K. "Terri"@cyberhighway Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry. He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth! Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs come forward and actually believe in his training manual. Robert Crim writes: I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs since I freely admit to having read and, I hope, understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it. This naive child would like to say thank you to both Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers. The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the nagging idea that if people like them had been posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp. To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake names are more honest than people that use their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have studied and lived by their craft for decades. "Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because you people act like fools. Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I don't really care. And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and actually admit to buying and having success with his little black box. I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll never know. Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming to him! LOL! I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right. Terri Yes it was, and that is sad. Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to listen to the box first?) |
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