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5x7 neg paper on 1899 folding camera
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I use an old 1899 5x7 folding camera, and I like its grain and optic odds. I learn with nature shots since a few weeks, and my sensible surface is multigrade RC paper (so it's looong exposure times). I'd like to know if any of you use any of this (a very old cam or paper as sensible surface) to discuss about it. Thanks. -- comme traversée du vide http://tichoual.free.fr/ |
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Hervé JOLLY wrote:
Hi. I use an old 1899 5x7 folding camera, and I like its grain and optic odds. I learn with nature shots since a few weeks, and my sensible surface is multigrade RC paper (so it's looong exposure times). I'd like to know if any of you use any of this (a very old cam or paper as sensible surface) to discuss about it. Thanks. This sounds very interesting, and I would sure like to read some answers from some of the "more experienced" who have subbed paper for negatives in a view camera. -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) |
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Hervé JOLLY wrote:
Hi. I use an old 1899 5x7 folding camera, and I like its grain and optic odds. I learn with nature shots since a few weeks, and my sensible surface is multigrade RC paper (so it's looong exposure times). I'd like to know if any of you use any of this (a very old cam or paper as sensible surface) to discuss about it. Thanks. This sounds very interesting, and I would sure like to read some answers from some of the "more experienced" who have subbed paper for negatives in a view camera. -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) |
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John Bartley wrote:
Herv=C3=A9 JOLLY wrote: =20 Hi. I use an old 1899 5x7 folding camera, and I like its grain and optic=20 odds. I learn with nature shots since a few weeks, and my sensible=20 surface is multigrade RC paper (so it's looong exposure times). I'd like to know if any of you use any of this (a very old cam or=20 paper as sensible surface) to discuss about it. Thanks. =20 This sounds very interesting, and I would sure like to read some answer= s=20 from some of the "more experienced" who have subbed paper for negatives= =20 in a view camera. I keep intending to do this with colour paper but keep forgetting-(. Us= ing paper for pin hole cameras is pretty common. Try it at most you waste a couple sheets of paper-) Paper is slow figure a speed of between 3 and 6. You can't enlarge the image so it may be better with a bigger camera.=20 Nick |
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John Bartley wrote:
Herv=C3=A9 JOLLY wrote: =20 Hi. I use an old 1899 5x7 folding camera, and I like its grain and optic=20 odds. I learn with nature shots since a few weeks, and my sensible=20 surface is multigrade RC paper (so it's looong exposure times). I'd like to know if any of you use any of this (a very old cam or=20 paper as sensible surface) to discuss about it. Thanks. =20 This sounds very interesting, and I would sure like to read some answer= s=20 from some of the "more experienced" who have subbed paper for negatives= =20 in a view camera. I keep intending to do this with colour paper but keep forgetting-(. Us= ing paper for pin hole cameras is pretty common. Try it at most you waste a couple sheets of paper-) Paper is slow figure a speed of between 3 and 6. You can't enlarge the image so it may be better with a bigger camera.=20 Nick |
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Nick Zentena wrote:
I keep intending to do this with colour paper but keep forgetting-(. Using paper for pin hole cameras is pretty common. Try it at most you waste a couple sheets of paper-) Paper is slow figure a speed of between 3 and 6. You can't enlarge the image so it may be better with a bigger camera. Nick What I found (with little experience) is that : - as you say it RC paper is in fact between 3 and 6 asa (someone told me that "papier baryté" (I don't know how it spells in english) is maybe twice like 10 or 12 - will have to check) - it's very sensible to blue (and not at all to red and yellow/green) so you have to filter (is yellow best ?) if you don't like your skies burned - sometimes the negative doesn't need any positive contact : it works by itself - it works very well (in my humble opinion) when you scan it : it has its own grain versus film scan, and you can achieve very high resolution as with any LF - and I intend to mix further the two technologies (19th century camera and 21th century scanner) -- comme traversée du vide http://tichoual.free.fr/ |
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Nick Zentena wrote:
I keep intending to do this with colour paper but keep forgetting-(. Using paper for pin hole cameras is pretty common. Try it at most you waste a couple sheets of paper-) Paper is slow figure a speed of between 3 and 6. You can't enlarge the image so it may be better with a bigger camera. Nick What I found (with little experience) is that : - as you say it RC paper is in fact between 3 and 6 asa (someone told me that "papier baryté" (I don't know how it spells in english) is maybe twice like 10 or 12 - will have to check) - it's very sensible to blue (and not at all to red and yellow/green) so you have to filter (is yellow best ?) if you don't like your skies burned - sometimes the negative doesn't need any positive contact : it works by itself - it works very well (in my humble opinion) when you scan it : it has its own grain versus film scan, and you can achieve very high resolution as with any LF - and I intend to mix further the two technologies (19th century camera and 21th century scanner) -- comme traversée du vide http://tichoual.free.fr/ |
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Herv=C3=A9 JOLLY wrote:
=20 What I found (with little experience) is that : - as you say it RC paper is in fact between 3 and 6 asa (someone told m= e=20 that "papier baryt=C3=A9" (I don't know how it spells in english) is ma= ybe=20 twice like 10 or 12 - will have to check) Paper speed to a certain extent changes with brand. - it's very sensible to blue (and not at all to red and yellow/green) s= o=20 you have to filter (is yellow best ?) if you don't like your skies burn= ed B&W paper is red blind. If you're using VC paper it should handle green= .. Low contrast printing comes from using green light. If you use a yellow filter I guess that would lower the contrast of the paper? Don't use a re= d filter-)) Nick |
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Herv=C3=A9 JOLLY wrote:
=20 What I found (with little experience) is that : - as you say it RC paper is in fact between 3 and 6 asa (someone told m= e=20 that "papier baryt=C3=A9" (I don't know how it spells in english) is ma= ybe=20 twice like 10 or 12 - will have to check) Paper speed to a certain extent changes with brand. - it's very sensible to blue (and not at all to red and yellow/green) s= o=20 you have to filter (is yellow best ?) if you don't like your skies burn= ed B&W paper is red blind. If you're using VC paper it should handle green= .. Low contrast printing comes from using green light. If you use a yellow filter I guess that would lower the contrast of the paper? Don't use a re= d filter-)) Nick |
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FYI-
If you will be contact printing the paper negatives you make from this process, you will want to use paper that has NO WATERMARK, or it will show up in the print. If you scan the paper neg, it's not a problem. HTH, Doug Allen |
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