Color Management Process

There have been many discussions on color management in this newsgroup. And,
there are references to books and manuals on this subject. However, I have
looked and looked for a good, preferably one-page flow chart that explains
the process of color management. One that would show where calibration and
profiles can be used, (or not) and how they are attached or detached from an
image file.



Does anyone know where I can find something like this. I would like to use
it to explain it to a photo editing class that I teach.



Thanks,



Gordo

Gordo wrote:
There have been many discussions on color management in this newsgroup. And,
there are references to books and manuals on this subject. However, I have
looked and looked for a good, preferably one-page flow chart that explains
the process of color management. One that would show where calibration and
profiles can be used, (or not) and how they are attached or detached from an
image file.

Does anyone know where I can find something like this. I would like to use
it to explain it to a photo editing class that I teach.

Gordo


Godo,
This is a new page I developed this month, and this is the first
time I'm announcing its existence. It's a little rough, but
it is a start. I describe my digital workflow:

http://www.clarkvision.com/photoinfo/digitalworkflow

Comments are welcome.

Roger

jim evans wrote:
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 22:29:17 -0700, "Roger N. Clark (change username
to rnclark)" wrote:


This is a new page I developed this month, and this is the first
time I'm announcing its existence. It's a little rough, but
it is a start. I describe my digital workflow:

http://www.clarkvision.com/photoinfo/digitalworkflow

Comments are welcome.


I notice in step 12 Prepare for the web, substep (e) you say "Convert
to aRGB color space." Did you mean Convert to sRGB color space?

"Using aRGB you can't print or publish photos to the web in aRGB
because the devices don't support the aRGB colour space, and your
photos will typically look dull."

http://www.digitalkb.com/nikon/d70/n...ork_with_argb/

jim
Jim,
Yes, that was a typo. It should be sRGB, I have fixed the page.
Thanks.
Roger

Thanks Roger,

However, what I am looking for is not the workflow for processing images,
just the explanation of how color management fits into the work flow at each
step. This would include monitor calibration and profiling, printer
profiling, paper profiling, and how each step is achieved. How and where
profiles are used and installed, etc.

Gordo


"Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark)" wrote in
message ...
Gordo wrote:
There have been many discussions on color management in this newsgroup.
And, there are references to books and manuals on this subject. However,
I have looked and looked for a good, preferably one-page flow chart that
explains the process of color management. One that would show where
calibration and profiles can be used, (or not) and how they are attached
or detached from an image file.

Does anyone know where I can find something like this. I would like to
use it to explain it to a photo editing class that I teach.

Gordo


Godo,
This is a new page I developed this month, and this is the first
time I'm announcing its existence. It's a little rough, but
it is a start. I describe my digital workflow:

http://www.clarkvision.com/photoinfo/digitalworkflow

Comments are welcome.

Roger

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:02:42 GMT, "Gordo" wrote:

Thanks Roger,

However, what I am looking for is not the workflow for processing images,
just the explanation of how color management fits into the work flow at each
step. This would include monitor calibration and profiling, printer
profiling, paper profiling, and how each step is achieved. How and where
profiles are used and installed, etc.

Gordo


Get "Real World Color Management" or "Color
Confidence" by Tim Grey.

Time was when the literature was scarce and
often wrong or just plain confusing. It's a whole
lot better now.

I'd also recommend "Mastering Digital
Printing" by Harald Johnson, which covers the
topic in less detail but in a broader context.

The toughest part of ICC color management
(IMHO) is separating theory from its OS-specific
and application-specific implementations.

Also, understanding the limitations and basic
assumptions of the theory -- ie., what's practical,
what's possible, and what's impossible.

Color correction (for example) is something
quite apart from color management.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto

Thanks Rafe,'

I was hoping for something more succinct. But perhaps I should go ahead an
study the book.

Gordo


"rafe b" rafebATspeakeasy.net wrote in message
...
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:02:42 GMT, "Gordo" wrote:

Thanks Roger,

However, what I am looking for is not the workflow for processing images,
just the explanation of how color management fits into the work flow at
each
step. This would include monitor calibration and profiling, printer
profiling, paper profiling, and how each step is achieved. How and where
profiles are used and installed, etc.

Gordo


Get "Real World Color Management" or "Color
Confidence" by Tim Grey.

Time was when the literature was scarce and
often wrong or just plain confusing. It's a whole
lot better now.

I'd also recommend "Mastering Digital
Printing" by Harald Johnson, which covers the
topic in less detail but in a broader context.

The toughest part of ICC color management
(IMHO) is separating theory from its OS-specific
and application-specific implementations.

Also, understanding the limitations and basic
assumptions of the theory -- ie., what's practical,
what's possible, and what's impossible.

Color correction (for example) is something
quite apart from color management.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto

Thanks Rafe,

I was hoping for something more succinct. But I suppose that I should go
ahead and study the book.

Gordo


Get "Real World Color Management" or "Color
Confidence" by Tim Grey.

Time was when the literature was scarce and
often wrong or just plain confusing. It's a whole
lot better now.

I'd also recommend "Mastering Digital
Printing" by Harald Johnson, which covers the
topic in less detail but in a broader context.

The toughest part of ICC color management
(IMHO) is separating theory from its OS-specific
and application-specific implementations.

Also, understanding the limitations and basic
assumptions of the theory -- ie., what's practical,
what's possible, and what's impossible.

Color correction (for example) is something
quite apart from color management.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:10:24 GMT, "Gordo" wrote:

Thanks Rafe,

I was hoping for something more succinct. But I suppose that I should go
ahead and study the book.


I wish I could offer a "succinct" answer, but it's
nor really possible. I was rather a slow learner
myself, on this particular subject.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com

Gordo writes ...

I was hoping for something more succinct.

Here's a good basic intro by Bruce Fraser, who is one of the authors of
the "Real World Color Management" book Rafe mentioned ...
http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/13605.html ... the basics are
pretty simple.

Bill

Gordo wrote:

Thanks Roger,

However, what I am looking for is not the workflow for processing images,
just the explanation of how color management fits into the work flow at
each step. This would include monitor calibration and profiling, printer
profiling, paper profiling, and how each step is achieved. How and where
profiles are used and installed, etc.



And you want this explained in ONE PAGE of text?

Why not just ask for "photography" to be explained on the next one?

--

Stacey