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A newbie request help selecting digital camera
ASAAR wrote in
: On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:07:29 -0500, Kris Krieger wrote: I've been using a nice Minolta with Fuji ASA 100 film and a modest telephoto lens. [etc - snipped] For lens compatibility look to Nikon DSLRs for your 55mm Nikkor and Sony DSLRs for your Minolta lenses. Some here that are more familiar with Sony's products and may be able to say whether some lenses are more compatible than others. For the Nikkor, if it's an AutoFocus lens, you'll probably want to avoid the cheapest bodies since they don't have the in-body motor that is needed to focus screw-driven AF lenses. This means that you'd want to avoid the new D5000 as well as the very small D40, D40x and D60. Some older DSLRs that are still available as manufacturer refurbs are the D50, D70, D80 and D200. Some stores may still have a few new D200s, otherwise your choice would be between a new D90 or D300. Thanks! I saw a link here to the Luminous Lansdscapes website, and the info about the Sony "Alpha DSLR-A200" (if I got that right) - since I'd like to take pics outdoors, the Sony sounds like ti is worth looking into in detail. I don't have anything that's "auto-focus"; I've never been, am still not, interested because I almost always have my primary focus someplace other than dead-center, and I'm not convinced that auto-focus would be able to handle that. So that at least keeps things a bit simpler By the way, all of these cameras have sensors smaller than a 35mm film frame (usually called DX sensors), so the images you'd get with 55mm Nikkor will appear magnified, more like what you'd get with an 82.5mm focal length lens on a film camera. Same for the Minolta lenses. OH!! I had seen info via another link that the DSLR sensors are smaller, btu I didn't realize that woudl magnify the image! THanks 4 that info , I'll have to think about that one - unsure whether it'd be an advantage or a disadvantage. Depending upon what's seen on the little "screen" (neo- viewfinder), it might not be a good thing... The multiplier for Nikkor lenses is 1.5, and 1.6 for Canon's lenses. I don't know what the multiplier is for Sony DSLRs, but it's sure to be in this vicinity. Sony's A900 and Nikon's D3, D700 and D3x are exceptions, all having large sensors (called FX or Full Frame) Another great explanation, thanks! (THe people in Best Buy sure didn't know any of this!) that are the same size as your film SLRs, so there won't be any need for a focal length multiplier. Unfortunately, these tend to be much more expensive DSLR bodies. They're good for wide angle photography, such as landscapes, because a 20mm lens on an FX DSLR is very wide, what you'd expect from a 20mm lens on a film SLR. But it would be only slightly wide on a DX DSLR (30mm on Nikon, 32mm on Canon). On the other hand, a 300mm lens that might be desirable for some nature/wildlife photography would perform like a 450mm or 480mm lens on a DX DSLR, which is why most wildlife photographers prefer using DX DSLRs. Ah! Good to know! It sounds like I need a good book... What I definitely do not want is an "automated" thing that takes away my control over the photo, focuses eveythign in the center (as opposed to where *I* want the focus to be), and other such interferences. So I've been leery of "power shot" types or other types that sound like they are merely for taking nice little snapshots (as opposed to decent-quality photographs). That shouldn't be a problem with Nikon's DSLRs, even the cheapest. It's probably also true for Sony's DSLRs, but I'm not the person to ask about them. 'S'OK, you're giving me loads of info I didn't know about At the same time, I cannot pay hundreds upon hundreds of dollars...so price is a consideration Oh yeah, I also am not concerned about it being able to take video, tho' I wouldn't reject that ability, either Reject it. DSLR videos can be ok if you use a tripod, but for following moving subjects you'd be much better off with videos taken with much cheaper P&S cameras. So, given all of that, could some kind soul perhaps direct this totally- confused newbie to a good starting place to look? Here, for replies that others will provide, and DPReview's forums might be a better place. See http://www.dpreview.com/forums/ and check out these forums: Beginners Questions Nikon D90 - D40 / D5000 Nikon D300 - D100 Nikon SLR Lens Talk Sony SLR Talk as well as any others that may pique your interest. You don't have to register unless you want to post questions or replies. DPR also has very good full reviews of many DSLRs, and while they may seem overwhelming to some readers at first (there may be more than 30 pages per camera), with time and osmosis they'll eventually become very readable. Until then, don't miss the Conclusions page that's near the end of each "full" review. Great info! THanks! I don't have a problem with info volume; I'm used to that. Knowing where to look, tho' is 80% of the battle so to speak - I tried Google but didn't know how to limit the search. So I'll save this (prob otehr posts, too) because it's a great place to get started. Thanks again! - Kris |
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A newbie request help selecting digital camera
Matt Ion wrote in -
september.org: Kris Krieger wrote: So, given all of that, could some kind soul perhaps direct this totally- confused newbie to a good starting place to look? http://www.dpreview.com is a good place to start comparing features. Some here will debate the "objectivity" of some of their reviews and articles, but the side-by-side feature is handy for comparing different cameras, and there's a Search function that lets you select which features are important to you, to help narrow your selection. Yup; no review is 100% objective, because each user of any product has different goals, methods, and so on, ergo a different perspective. But if a number of perspectives from reasonably-experienced/knowledgeable people are seen, a decent conclusion can be arrived at. So that link is very sueful Now, use of your existing lenses and accessories is something you're interested in, and others have given you some info there that can also help with your selection. To that, then, I would add my standard advice: once you've narrowed your search to two or three models, go to your local store (camera specialty store, Best Buy, etc.) and actually try them out. Pick them up, handle them, snap some lenses on and fire off some test shots... work all the controls, look through the menus and settings. In the end, your best choice will be the one that you're most comfortable with. I dod a *little* bit of that, didn't bring my lenses but did try the display items at Best Buy (best local selection and prices), which is what got me to post here, so yup, that's always good advice - it's like test- driving a car before plunking down the money. At this level of technology, you see, people will argue minutiae in the specs and compare things at a quantum level, and eventually you'll probably see this thread degrade into simple bashing of one brand's users over another... Oh, yeah - like computer-shoppers But it's all grist for the proverbial mill and I appreciate all info. but at the end of the day, all of these cameras will give you great results and serve you well for years, and so it's important to have a camera that *YOU* enjoy using. If it feels awkward for *YOU* to handle, or the menus are confusing for *YOU* to navigate, or the controls are poorly-placed for *YOUR* hands, then you won't enjoy using it, and the camera is much more likely to simply sit on a shelf collecting dust, where all those arguments become moot. THat's a great point, I'll keep that in mind! Two different friends of mine were shopping for DSLRs not long ago, and asked me what they should get... I told them both to get Canons, so I could borrow their lenses and accessories Then I gave them both this same advice... one ended up with a Nikon D80, the other with a Pentax *ist, based largely on their own preferences after handling and trying out several different bodies. One other thing: ASAAR makes a good point in that cheaper DSLRs' sensors are smaller than a 35mm film frame, and thus will give a cropped view from what you're used to with your existing lenses. However, I should clarify one of his statements: "By the way, all of these cameras have sensors smaller than a 35mm film frame (usually called DX sensors), so the images you'd get with 55mm Nikkor will appear magnified, more like what you'd get with an 82.5mm focal length lens on a film camera. Same for the Minolta lenses. The multiplier for Nikkor lenses is 1.5, and 1.6 for Canon's lenses." The multipliers apply to the BODY, not the lens. A 55mm lens is *always* a 55mm lens - that number refers to the lens's focal length and has nothing to do with the size of the imaging device it projects onto, be it film or digital. Ah, OK, that's what I'd thought so it's good to be sure (given my lack of expertise!) What the "crop factor" gives you, is a relative comparison to the 35mm frame. For example, you know what sort of view you normally get out of your 55mm lens... on a Nikon body with a 1.5X crop factor, then, you would need about a 36-37mm lens to achieve the same view. Or conversely, as ASAAR notes, that lens on a 1.5X sensor will look about the same an 82.5mm lens on your Minolta. Oh, you know what, I read ASAAR's post backwards then. What i'm thinking is that I ought to actually just get a "package", IOW, a camera with a couple lenses that are designed to eb used with it. That seems less confusing, which translates into "less frustrating" It's nit-picking, to a degree, and again, it's not something you'll probably spend a lot of time comparing on the different DSLRs you look at, but it's something important to just keep in mind - that for any given lens length, the view is going to be "tighter" than you're used to. That is, of course, unless you go for a body with a full-frame sensor, but that's probably getting well out of your price range. But it's so tempting... And it depends on 1) how much I save up and especialy 2)how many stained-glass pieces I can make *and sell*. So it's actually an impetus to make me "work" harder (if you can call it work)! THanks for the great info, I'll save all these posts - Kris |
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A newbie request help selecting digital camera
nick c wrote in
news Jürgen Exner wrote: Matt Ion wrote: Kris Krieger wrote: So, given all of that, could some kind soul perhaps direct this totally- confused newbie to a good starting place to look? [...] users over another... but at the end of the day, all of these cameras will give you great results and serve you well for years, and so it's important to have a camera that *YOU* enjoy using. If it feels awkward for *YOU* to handle, or the menus are confusing for *YOU* to navigate, or the controls are poorly-placed for *YOUR* hands, then you won't enjoy using it, and the camera is much more likely to simply sit on a shelf collecting dust, where all those arguments become moot. 100% ACK. This advise above it the most important factor. If the camera doesn't feel right for *YOU* then it is the wrong camera for you. jue Applause ....... I may be a lurker but I recognize good advice and feel compelled to say something. In the days of film I was (with momentary exceptions) a devoted Nikon user. With the onset of digital, I thought it wise to change to Canon 'cause Canon seemed to be more advanced than Nikon. I sold my F4 and F5 Nikon's, and all the associate equipment and went totally Canon. I've experienced the need of some repairs for my Canon equipment but on the whole, I've found the Canon system to be a good system. But I wasn't comfortable using Canon and I can't specifically say why. Several years passed and my pictures didn't reflect any technical problems, so to speak of. Least wise I was happy with them and since I pay my bills, that's all that counts. Yet, I didn't quite feel comfortable with the use my equipment. I'm not a pro but I do know pros. Discussing my situation with them, I was advised to think about going back to Nikon simply because I may have some sort of psychological attachment to Nikon equipment, since I've used Nikon equipment for over 50 years (I'm 81 years old and my right hand shakes). Since I have the means to indulge myself, I rented a Nikon D300, a Nikon 16-85 lens, and a Nikon SB-600 flash. A week later, I felt great. I felt comfortable using the Nikon D300, in fact I was so sold on the camera I sold all my Canon equipment and bought the D300 and the D700 Nikon cameras along with a bunch of lenses. I'm as happy now as a frog would be if he discovered he had two peckers. My pictures my not be the greatest and they certainly do not justify the money spent for a total change in equipment, but as Rhett Buttler said to Scarlett O'Hara, "Frankly Madam, I don't give a damn." Wow. That is a real object-lesson. OTOH, when I was first selecting computer 3D modelling software soem years back, I went through a similar thing - people kept *telling* me that Max was *THE* program, or Lightwave, btu I tried both and thoroughly loathed them. I ended up getting a program that has no menus whatsoever, only icons that have associated settings windows - this was perfect for me, because I'm a visual/spatial thinkger, whereas it was impossibly "linear" for me to keep track of endless menus and sub-menus. I continued to upgrade that program. Meanwhile had I gone with the "must haves", I'd haev quit doing 3D modelling before I could even get into it. So there ya go. To each his own. - Kris |
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A newbie request help selecting digital camera
Matt Ion wrote in -
september.org: Matt Ion wrote: Kris Krieger wrote: So, given all of that, could some kind soul perhaps direct this totally- confused newbie to a good starting place to look? At this level of technology, you see, people will argue minutiae in the specs and compare things at a quantum level, and eventually you'll probably see this thread degrade into simple bashing of one brand's users over another... Hmm, I guess I was wrong... it's degraded into the DSLR vs. P&S troll battles. Which, admittedly, I should have seen coming. My bad. Well, given that I had specifically asked for info about DSLR, because I'm used to using my Film SLR and wish to continue with th elevel of control it gives me, there was no "degradation" - people simply were generously giving their time to answer the question I'd rather specifically asked, which I appreciate very much, since it's not like anyone is making money or gaining personal advantage from doing so. Sorry you had a negative perception of this. - Kris |
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A newbie request help selecting digital camera
Savageduck wrote in
news:2009061412301727544-savageduck@REMOVESPAMmecom: On 2009-06-14 07:41:13 -0700, John Navas said: On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:42:18 -0700, Matt Ion wrote in : Matt Ion wrote: Kris Krieger wrote: So, given all of that, could some kind soul perhaps direct this totally- confused newbie to a good starting place to look? At this level of technology, you see, people will argue minutiae in the specs and compare things at a quantum level, and eventually you'll probably see this thread degrade into simple bashing of one brand's users over another... Hmm, I guess I was wrong... it's degraded into the DSLR vs. P&S troll battles. Which, admittedly, I should have seen coming. My bad. That is, unfortunately, what r.p.d has degenerated into, mostly a result of insecure dSLR owners who feel the need to attack non-dSLRs and those who use them, although a notable P&S troll is fueling the fires as well. It's all very childish, pointless, and destructive. [sigh] Agreed. Many DSLR users are also P&S or bridge users. Some P&S users will never have the need for a DSLR, and there are certainly many DSLR users who will appear holier than thou in their chase for bragging rights to ownership of whatever, to justify their purchase. Each camera type has its place in the World, however the manner in which some individuals make the argument for their prefered camera make/camera type/PP software etc. creates a provocative, hostile situation, which can only be damaging to the NG. Our resident P&S troll has done one thing though, anything he posts now is mostly discounted, even if there might be some valid points made within his diatribe of the moment. See my answer 2 Matt Ion. I had specifically asked about DSLR. SLR is what I'm comfortabel with in film, and what i like, so I naturally am therefore looking at DSLR. I really don't have any issue or problem with what other people use; I simply asked what I did becuase, as someone new to digital, I am looking to find what *I* am comfortable using. - Kris |
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A newbie request help selecting digital camera
On 2009-06-14 17:12:26 -0700, Kris Krieger said:
ASAAR wrote in : On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:07:29 -0500, Kris Krieger wrote: I've been using a nice Minolta with Fuji ASA 100 film and a modest telephoto lens. [etc - snipped] For lens compatibility look to Nikon DSLRs for your 55mm Nikkor and Sony DSLRs for your Minolta lenses. Some here that are more familiar with Sony's products and may be able to say whether some lenses are more compatible than others. For the Nikkor, if it's an AutoFocus lens, you'll probably want to avoid the cheapest bodies since they don't have the in-body motor that is needed to focus screw-driven AF lenses. This means that you'd want to avoid the new D5000 as well as the very small D40, D40x and D60. Some older DSLRs that are still available as manufacturer refurbs are the D50, D70, D80 and D200. Some stores may still have a few new D200s, otherwise your choice would be between a new D90 or D300. Thanks! I saw a link here to the Luminous Lansdscapes website, and the info about the Sony "Alpha DSLR-A200" (if I got that right) - since I'd like to take pics outdoors, the Sony sounds like ti is worth looking into in detail. I don't have anything that's "auto-focus"; I've never been, am still not, interested because I almost always have my primary focus someplace other than dead-center, and I'm not convinced that auto-focus would be able to handle that. So that at least keeps things a bit simpler One thing to remember with the DSLR and some of the bridge & P&S cameras is the ability to have focus points other than the center of the viewfinder. With my D300 for example you can have up to 51 different AF focus point. These can be select for composition as you frame the image, they can be set to track a moving target, or any number of variables. AF is not all bad (pretty good actually) and could probably deal with most of your demands.. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:12:26 -0500, Kris Krieger wrote:
ASAAR wrote in : On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:07:29 -0500, Kris Krieger wrote: I've been using a nice Minolta with Fuji ASA 100 film and a modest telephoto lens. [etc - snipped] For lens compatibility look to Nikon DSLRs for your 55mm Nikkor and Sony DSLRs for your Minolta lenses. Some here that are more familiar with Sony's products and may be able to say whether some lenses are more compatible than others. For the Nikkor, if it's an AutoFocus lens, you'll probably want to avoid the cheapest bodies since they don't have the in-body motor that is needed to focus screw-driven AF lenses. This means that you'd want to avoid the new D5000 as well as the very small D40, D40x and D60. Some older DSLRs that are still available as manufacturer refurbs are the D50, D70, D80 and D200. Some stores may still have a few new D200s, otherwise your choice would be between a new D90 or D300. Thanks! I saw a link here to the Luminous Lansdscapes website, and the info about the Sony "Alpha DSLR-A200" (if I got that right) - since I'd like to take pics outdoors, the Sony sounds like ti is worth looking into in detail. I don't have anything that's "auto-focus"; I've never been, am still not, interested because I almost always have my primary focus someplace other than dead-center, and I'm not convinced that auto-focus would be able to handle that. So that at least keeps things a bit simpler By the way, all of these cameras have sensors smaller than a 35mm film frame (usually called DX sensors), so the images you'd get with 55mm Nikkor will appear magnified, more like what you'd get with an 82.5mm focal length lens on a film camera. Same for the Minolta lenses. OH!! I had seen info via another link that the DSLR sensors are smaller, btu I didn't realize that woudl magnify the image! THanks 4 that info , I'll have to think about that one - unsure whether it'd be an advantage or a disadvantage. Depending upon what's seen on the little "screen" (neo- viewfinder), it might not be a good thing... The multiplier for Nikkor lenses is 1.5, and 1.6 for Canon's lenses. I don't know what the multiplier is for Sony DSLRs, but it's sure to be in this vicinity. Sony's A900 and Nikon's D3, D700 and D3x are exceptions, all having large sensors (called FX or Full Frame) Another great explanation, thanks! (THe people in Best Buy sure didn't know any of this!) that are the same size as your film SLRs, so there won't be any need for a focal length multiplier. Unfortunately, these tend to be much more expensive DSLR bodies. They're good for wide angle photography, such as landscapes, because a 20mm lens on an FX DSLR is very wide, what you'd expect from a 20mm lens on a film SLR. But it would be only slightly wide on a DX DSLR (30mm on Nikon, 32mm on Canon). On the other hand, a 300mm lens that might be desirable for some nature/wildlife photography would perform like a 450mm or 480mm lens on a DX DSLR, which is why most wildlife photographers prefer using DX DSLRs. Ah! Good to know! It sounds like I need a good book... What I definitely do not want is an "automated" thing that takes away my control over the photo, focuses eveythign in the center (as opposed to where *I* want the focus to be), and other such interferences. So I've been leery of "power shot" types or other types that sound like they are merely for taking nice little snapshots (as opposed to decent-quality photographs). That shouldn't be a problem with Nikon's DSLRs, even the cheapest. It's probably also true for Sony's DSLRs, but I'm not the person to ask about them. 'S'OK, you're giving me loads of info I didn't know about At the same time, I cannot pay hundreds upon hundreds of dollars...so price is a consideration Oh yeah, I also am not concerned about it being able to take video, tho' I wouldn't reject that ability, either Reject it. DSLR videos can be ok if you use a tripod, but for following moving subjects you'd be much better off with videos taken with much cheaper P&S cameras. So, given all of that, could some kind soul perhaps direct this totally- confused newbie to a good starting place to look? Here, for replies that others will provide, and DPReview's forums might be a better place. See http://www.dpreview.com/forums/ and check out these forums: Beginners Questions Nikon D90 - D40 / D5000 Nikon D300 - D100 Nikon SLR Lens Talk Sony SLR Talk as well as any others that may pique your interest. You don't have to register unless you want to post questions or replies. DPR also has very good full reviews of many DSLRs, and while they may seem overwhelming to some readers at first (there may be more than 30 pages per camera), with time and osmosis they'll eventually become very readable. Until then, don't miss the Conclusions page that's near the end of each "full" review. Great info! THanks! I don't have a problem with info volume; I'm used to that. Knowing where to look, tho' is 80% of the battle so to speak - I tried Google but didn't know how to limit the search. So I'll save this (prob otehr posts, too) because it's a great place to get started. Thanks again! - Kris You do realize that you are taking advice from someone who has never even held a camera, don't you? All he does is read downloaded camera manuals and read websites about photography his whole sad life. Then he comes here and tries to pretend to know something about real cameras and real photography. He thinks he wins if he can fool others into believing that he's a some kind of "photographer", like some sad virtual-reality-game in his head. ASSAR is THE longest-lived resident pretend-photographer TROLL. Everyone who has subscribed to this group for less than month knows this. Enjoy your (ahem) "advice". :-) Too too funny! LOL! |
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A newbie request help selecting digital camera
On 2009-06-14 17:36:20 -0700, Kris Krieger said:
Savageduck wrote in news:2009061412301727544-savageduck@REMOVESPAMmecom: On 2009-06-14 07:41:13 -0700, John Navas said: On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:42:18 -0700, Matt Ion wrote in : Matt Ion wrote: Kris Krieger wrote: So, given all of that, could some kind soul perhaps direct this totally- confused newbie to a good starting place to look? At this level of technology, you see, people will argue minutiae in the specs and compare things at a quantum level, and eventually you'll probably see this thread degrade into simple bashing of one brand's users over another... Hmm, I guess I was wrong... it's degraded into the DSLR vs. P&S troll battles. Which, admittedly, I should have seen coming. My bad. That is, unfortunately, what r.p.d has degenerated into, mostly a result of insecure dSLR owners who feel the need to attack non-dSLRs and those who use them, although a notable P&S troll is fueling the fires as well. It's all very childish, pointless, and destructive. [sigh] Agreed. Many DSLR users are also P&S or bridge users. Some P&S users will never have the need for a DSLR, and there are certainly many DSLR users who will appear holier than thou in their chase for bragging rights to ownership of whatever, to justify their purchase. Each camera type has its place in the World, however the manner in which some individuals make the argument for their prefered camera make/camera type/PP software etc. creates a provocative, hostile situation, which can only be damaging to the NG. Our resident P&S troll has done one thing though, anything he posts now is mostly discounted, even if there might be some valid points made within his diatribe of the moment. See my answer 2 Matt Ion. I had specifically asked about DSLR. SLR is what I'm comfortabel with in film, and what i like, so I naturally am therefore looking at DSLR. I really don't have any issue or problem with what other people use; I simply asked what I did becuase, as someone new to digital, I am looking to find what *I* am comfortable using. - Kris Then follow your instincts and your own interpretation of the reviews. Try and evaluate what you read in this Group and go with what will meet your requirements, handling comfort and price point. Sometimes it is best to lurk in these groups to get a feel for the various regular contributers before raising an issue. That way you might be better prepared to filter the information. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 2009-06-14 18:04:50 -0700, LOL said:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:12:26 -0500, Kris Krieger wrote: ----------------- Great info! THanks! I don't have a problem with info volume; I'm used to that. Knowing where to look, tho' is 80% of the battle so to speak - I tried Google but didn't know how to limit the search. So I'll save this (prob otehr posts, too) because it's a great place to get started. Thanks again! - Kris You do realize that you are taking advice from someone who has never even held a camera, don't you? All he does is read downloaded camera manuals and read websites about photography his whole sad life. Then he comes here and tries to pretend to know something about real cameras and real photography. He thinks he wins if he can fool others into believing that he's a some kind of "photographer", like some sad virtual-reality-game in his head. ASSAR is THE longest-lived resident pretend-photographer TROLL. Everyone who has subscribed to this group for less than month knows this. Enjoy your (ahem) "advice". :-) Too too funny! LOL! ....and Kris, if you hadn't noticed before, the above remark is from our resident P&S troll who will try to hide his identity via constant change, and has an agenda which is more destructive than helpful. There are doubts in this Group of his ability to produce images as he has yet to submit any sample of his work. The best advice remains buy what works for you. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:12:26 -0500, Kris Krieger
wrote: I don't have anything that's "auto-focus"; I've never been, am still not, interested because I almost always have my primary focus someplace other than dead-center, and I'm not convinced that auto-focus would be able to handle that. So that at least keeps things a bit simpler I still suggest that you are a bit confused on this issue. You will not find a dslr to be different than a slr as far as focussing. The dslrs are not restricted to center focussing in auto focus. You can focus at any point in the frame. You also have the ability to change from auto focus to manual focus and never use auto focus. (That's with a dslr and not a point & shoot. Some point & shoots have a manual setting, but not all of them.) You will not be restricted by the camera no matter what brand of dslr you purchase. There may be something different to get used to, but I can't imagine an experienced photographer not adapting in a matter of minutes. You may have to read, or at least skim, the manual though. I spent years using a slr before changing to a dslr. The only thing I had to get used to was not being stingy with my shots. I still take fewer shots than many dslr users because there's something ingrained in my mind about more shots costing more money. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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