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Old September 11th 11, 10:25 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
Tony Cooper
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Someone pulled that on me today. I took my grandchildren to a
shooting range where a group of "Cowboy Shooters" meet once a month.
We spent a couple of hours watching these hobbyists fire six-shooters,
rifles, and shotguns with genuine or replica frontier-era weapons.

Nice group of people. Several took the time to explain what was going
on to my six and seven year-old grandchildren, showed them their
weapons, and one even allowed the boys to dry fire his six-shooter.

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...fGQnLTS-X3.jpg

Some good shots of the grandchildren today, but nothing that isn't
just a snapshot. Mostly, the view is the back of people. Not too
good standing in front of them since they are using live ammo.

The shooting is scored on time minus misses, so the person standing
behind this shooter is timing him.

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...fLmj27p-X3.jpg

In another area was a group of people taking instruction on modern
small weapons from an instructor. I took a couple of snaps and the
instructor came over and said "No photographs allowed".

My answer was the short form: "Bull****". I was far behind them with
a 200mm lens and out of ear range of the shutter click, so I wasn't
disturbing anything.

The instructor got shirty with me and said it was against the law to
take a photograph of someone without their permission. This made me
laugh. He had an NRA patch on his shirt, so I asked him how he would
feel if I started making up laws about guns. He just turned and
walked away.

The subject matter wasn't interesting, so I left after just a couple
of snaps. What gets me the most is the hypocrisy of the instructor.
There is no group in this country that spends more time, energy, and
money to ensure that their right to pursue their own hobby is not
abridged than gun owners who are in the NRA. Yet, this guy wanted to
deny me my right to pursue my own hobby.

The little would-be tyrant:

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...7jgdT9S-X3.jpg

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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
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Old September 11th 11, 10:35 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
George Kerby
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On 9/11/11 4:25 PM, in article ,
"tony cooper" wrote:

Someone pulled that on me today. I took my grandchildren to a
shooting range where a group of "Cowboy Shooters" meet once a month.
We spent a couple of hours watching these hobbyists fire six-shooters,
rifles, and shotguns with genuine or replica frontier-era weapons.

Nice group of people. Several took the time to explain what was going
on to my six and seven year-old grandchildren, showed them their
weapons, and one even allowed the boys to dry fire his six-shooter.

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...fGQnLTS-X3.jpg

Some good shots of the grandchildren today, but nothing that isn't
just a snapshot. Mostly, the view is the back of people. Not too
good standing in front of them since they are using live ammo.

The shooting is scored on time minus misses, so the person standing
behind this shooter is timing him.

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...fLmj27p-X3.jpg

In another area was a group of people taking instruction on modern
small weapons from an instructor. I took a couple of snaps and the
instructor came over and said "No photographs allowed".

My answer was the short form: "Bull****". I was far behind them with
a 200mm lens and out of ear range of the shutter click, so I wasn't
disturbing anything.

The instructor got shirty with me and said it was against the law to
take a photograph of someone without their permission. This made me
laugh. He had an NRA patch on his shirt, so I asked him how he would
feel if I started making up laws about guns. He just turned and
walked away.

The subject matter wasn't interesting, so I left after just a couple
of snaps. What gets me the most is the hypocrisy of the instructor.
There is no group in this country that spends more time, energy, and
money to ensure that their right to pursue their own hobby is not
abridged than gun owners who are in the NRA. Yet, this guy wanted to
deny me my right to pursue my own hobby.

The little would-be tyrant:

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...7jgdT9S-X3.jpg


Maybe because his name was on his shirt and he led the secret life of a 'Gun
Controller'?!?

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Old September 11th 11, 11:39 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
Robert Coe
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:25:04 -0400, tony cooper
wrote:
: Someone pulled that on me today. I took my grandchildren to a
: shooting range where a group of "Cowboy Shooters" meet once a month.
: We spent a couple of hours watching these hobbyists fire six-shooters,
: rifles, and shotguns with genuine or replica frontier-era weapons.
:
: Nice group of people. Several took the time to explain what was going
: on to my six and seven year-old grandchildren, showed them their
: weapons, and one even allowed the boys to dry fire his six-shooter.
:
: http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...fGQnLTS-X3.jpg
:
: Some good shots of the grandchildren today, but nothing that isn't
: just a snapshot. Mostly, the view is the back of people. Not too
: good standing in front of them since they are using live ammo.
:
: The shooting is scored on time minus misses, so the person standing
: behind this shooter is timing him.
:
: http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...fLmj27p-X3.jpg

I'd be inclined to crop off about two thirds of the distance from the top of
the frame to the tops of the subjects' hats. The fact that the picture is
already cramped laterally, with one of the subjects badly truncated, makes the
extra margin at the top more conspicuous.

Bob
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Old September 12th 11, 12:02 AM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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On 2011-09-11 14:25:04 -0700, tony cooper said:

Someone pulled that on me today. I took my grandchildren to a
shooting range where a group of "Cowboy Shooters" meet once a month.
We spent a couple of hours watching these hobbyists fire six-shooters,
rifles, and shotguns with genuine or replica frontier-era weapons.

Nice group of people. Several took the time to explain what was going
on to my six and seven year-old grandchildren, showed them their
weapons, and one even allowed the boys to dry fire his six-shooter.

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...fGQnLTS-X3.jpg

Some good shots of the grandchildren today, but nothing that isn't
just a snapshot. Mostly, the view is the back of people. Not too
good standing in front of them since they are using live ammo.

The shooting is scored on time minus misses, so the person standing
behind this shooter is timing him.

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...fLmj27p-X3.jpg

In another area was a group of people taking instruction on modern
small weapons from an instructor. I took a couple of snaps and the
instructor came over and said "No photographs allowed".

My answer was the short form: "Bull****". I was far behind them with
a 200mm lens and out of ear range of the shutter click, so I wasn't
disturbing anything.

The instructor got shirty with me and said it was against the law to
take a photograph of someone without their permission. This made me
laugh. He had an NRA patch on his shirt, so I asked him how he would
feel if I started making up laws about guns. He just turned and
walked away.

The subject matter wasn't interesting, so I left after just a couple
of snaps. What gets me the most is the hypocrisy of the instructor.
There is no group in this country that spends more time, energy, and
money to ensure that their right to pursue their own hobby is not
abridged than gun owners who are in the NRA. Yet, this guy wanted to
deny me my right to pursue my own hobby.

The little would-be tyrant:

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...7jgdT9S-X3.jpg


I would not be surprised to find that this individual has a day job
with the TSA.

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Regards,

Savageduck

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Old September 12th 11, 12:03 AM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
Mike[_25_]
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On 11/09/2011 5:25 PM, tony cooper wrote:
Someone pulled that on me today. I took my grandchildren to a
shooting range where a group of "Cowboy Shooters" meet once a month.
We spent a couple of hours watching these hobbyists fire six-shooters,
rifles, and shotguns with genuine or replica frontier-era weapons.

Nice group of people. Several took the time to explain what was going
on to my six and seven year-old grandchildren, showed them their
weapons, and one even allowed the boys to dry fire his six-shooter.

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...fGQnLTS-X3.jpg

Some good shots of the grandchildren today, but nothing that isn't
just a snapshot. Mostly, the view is the back of people. Not too
good standing in front of them since they are using live ammo.

The shooting is scored on time minus misses, so the person standing
behind this shooter is timing him.

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...fLmj27p-X3.jpg

In another area was a group of people taking instruction on modern
small weapons from an instructor. I took a couple of snaps and the
instructor came over and said "No photographs allowed".

My answer was the short form: "Bull****". I was far behind them with
a 200mm lens and out of ear range of the shutter click, so I wasn't
disturbing anything.

The instructor got shirty with me and said it was against the law to
take a photograph of someone without their permission. This made me
laugh. He had an NRA patch on his shirt, so I asked him how he would
feel if I started making up laws about guns. He just turned and
walked away.

The shooting range I would presume is "Private Property" I would say the
same thing if you came into my living room...

Mike
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Old September 12th 11, 12:15 AM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
Tony Cooper
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:03:35 -0400, Mike wrote:

On 11/09/2011 5:25 PM, tony cooper wrote:
Someone pulled that on me today. I took my grandchildren to a
shooting range where a group of "Cowboy Shooters" meet once a month.
We spent a couple of hours watching these hobbyists fire six-shooters,
rifles, and shotguns with genuine or replica frontier-era weapons.

Nice group of people. Several took the time to explain what was going
on to my six and seven year-old grandchildren, showed them their
weapons, and one even allowed the boys to dry fire his six-shooter.

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...fGQnLTS-X3.jpg

Some good shots of the grandchildren today, but nothing that isn't
just a snapshot. Mostly, the view is the back of people. Not too
good standing in front of them since they are using live ammo.

The shooting is scored on time minus misses, so the person standing
behind this shooter is timing him.

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...fLmj27p-X3.jpg

In another area was a group of people taking instruction on modern
small weapons from an instructor. I took a couple of snaps and the
instructor came over and said "No photographs allowed".

My answer was the short form: "Bull****". I was far behind them with
a 200mm lens and out of ear range of the shutter click, so I wasn't
disturbing anything.

The instructor got shirty with me and said it was against the law to
take a photograph of someone without their permission. This made me
laugh. He had an NRA patch on his shirt, so I asked him how he would
feel if I started making up laws about guns. He just turned and
walked away.

The shooting range I would presume is "Private Property" I would say the
same thing if you came into my living room...


He is not the owner of the property. It's a county-owned range
primarily used as a weapons training range by the various county
police departments.

If someone says "Please don't take my picture", I go along with it.
When someone says "No photographs allowed" and "You can't take my
photo without my permission", I keep snapping if I think it could be
an interesting photo.

It was especially aggravating to have a NRA member try to constrain my
rights.



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Old September 12th 11, 12:19 AM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
Tony Cooper
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:39:16 -0400, Robert Coe wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:25:04 -0400, tony cooper
wrote:
: Someone pulled that on me today. I took my grandchildren to a
: shooting range where a group of "Cowboy Shooters" meet once a month.
: We spent a couple of hours watching these hobbyists fire six-shooters,
: rifles, and shotguns with genuine or replica frontier-era weapons.
:
: Nice group of people. Several took the time to explain what was going
: on to my six and seven year-old grandchildren, showed them their
: weapons, and one even allowed the boys to dry fire his six-shooter.
:
: http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...fGQnLTS-X3.jpg
:
: Some good shots of the grandchildren today, but nothing that isn't
: just a snapshot. Mostly, the view is the back of people. Not too
: good standing in front of them since they are using live ammo.
:
: The shooting is scored on time minus misses, so the person standing
: behind this shooter is timing him.
:
: http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...fLmj27p-X3.jpg

I'd be inclined to crop off about two thirds of the distance from the top of
the frame to the tops of the subjects' hats. The fact that the picture is
already cramped laterally, with one of the subjects badly truncated, makes the
extra margin at the top more conspicuous.


It's cropped to 4" x 6" as I crop all family snapshots. It'll be in
the family Lightroom Catalog as a scene-setting photo for the photos
of the grandchildren that day.

I'll creatively crop if the use is for some other purpose.


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Old September 12th 11, 01:05 AM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
PeterN
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On 9/11/2011 5:25 PM, tony cooper wrote:
Someone pulled that on me today. I took my grandchildren to a
shooting range where a group of "Cowboy Shooters" meet once a month.
We spent a couple of hours watching these hobbyists fire six-shooters,
rifles, and shotguns with genuine or replica frontier-era weapons.

Nice group of people. Several took the time to explain what was going
on to my six and seven year-old grandchildren, showed them their
weapons, and one even allowed the boys to dry fire his six-shooter.

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...fGQnLTS-X3.jpg

Some good shots of the grandchildren today, but nothing that isn't
just a snapshot. Mostly, the view is the back of people. Not too
good standing in front of them since they are using live ammo.

The shooting is scored on time minus misses, so the person standing
behind this shooter is timing him.

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...fLmj27p-X3.jpg

In another area was a group of people taking instruction on modern
small weapons from an instructor. I took a couple of snaps and the
instructor came over and said "No photographs allowed".

My answer was the short form: "Bull****". I was far behind them with
a 200mm lens and out of ear range of the shutter click, so I wasn't
disturbing anything.

The instructor got shirty with me and said it was against the law to
take a photograph of someone without their permission. This made me
laugh. He had an NRA patch on his shirt, so I asked him how he would
feel if I started making up laws about guns. He just turned and
walked away.

The subject matter wasn't interesting, so I left after just a couple
of snaps. What gets me the most is the hypocrisy of the instructor.
There is no group in this country that spends more time, energy, and
money to ensure that their right to pursue their own hobby is not
abridged than gun owners who are in the NRA. Yet, this guy wanted to
deny me my right to pursue my own hobby.

The little would-be tyrant:

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...7jgdT9S-X3.jpg


Appropriate double standard.

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Old September 12th 11, 01:10 AM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
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"Irwell" wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 22:49:47 +0100, Charles E. Hardwidge wrote:
"tony cooper" wrote in message
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The little would-be tyrant:

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...7jgdT9S-X3.jpg


Irony, the fifth fundamental force, strikes again (maybe for both of us)
because that was the best photo you took. It's very flattering to this
Jason Stratham wannabe with his "pro" kit and small paunch fondling a
handgun like he's seen actors playing special forces handle them on TV.


That thick throbbing vein on his forehead is a warning sign.


LOL. Just noticed now you say that - he shaves his legs.

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Old September 12th 11, 02:40 AM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.digital
Robert Coe
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:19:49 -0400, tony cooper
wrote:
: On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:39:16 -0400, Robert Coe wrote:
: I'd be inclined to crop off about two thirds of the distance from the top
: of the frame to the tops of the subjects' hats. The fact that the picture
: is already cramped laterally, with one of the subjects badly truncated,
: makes the extra margin at the top more conspicuous.
:
: It's cropped to 4" x 6" as I crop all family snapshots. It'll be in
: the family Lightroom Catalog as a scene-setting photo for the photos
: of the grandchildren that day.
:
: I'll creatively crop if the use is for some other purpose.

Jeez, you're as bad as my daughter. She gripes if I give her any of my
pictures at anything but a 3x2 aspect ratio, because she's got her albums,
etc., set up for that. But she won't take my RAW originals, since she shoots
only JPEGs, and processing RAW is outside her workflow. Fortunately, she's a
good photographer (better than I am in some ways) and doesn't really need my
stuff very often. I'm entirely too lazy to crop a picture differently, just to
give it to her.

Bob
 




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