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Old June 11th 09, 06:52 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Old June 11th 09, 09:07 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:52:22 +0200, "MJK" wrote:

"Home" ... protect planet
http://images-piegees.over-blog.com/...-32501655.html


Not too bad.

Though with such a small subject it's a bit lost in all the empty space.
You might have had a little more impact and impression by tightening up on
the subject without losing much in the composition. Much of the beauty of
nature is in the details. (Ever photograph diatoms or snowflakes through a
microscope? You'd know what I mean. This last winter I invented a new
dark-field lighting system just for accenting the intricate crystalline
facets of snowflakes.) The intricacies of the venation in the wings would
have been a good contrast to all the empty space if you had made that a
larger part of the image. Not to mention catching a wider range of all the
intense blues available there. The wings were exposed well and there could
have been lots of fine details to hold and entertain the eye longer.
Otherwise, not too bad.

You could have had a little more impact too by watching your
background--arranging the main subject so it is outlined by one of the
lighter fields in the bokeh. The dark of the intensely-blue wings against
the light. See that large patch of lighter blue just to the left and down
from the damsel-fly behind the brightly-lit leaf? A slight shift in your
vantage-point could have brought that oval out-of-focus area to frame the
main subject like a stage-light, it's shape also mirroring the curvature of
the wings. The lighter leaves too would have then been outlined by the
darker greens. Even better is if you could have found a light bright-green
area in the background to contrast the darker blue wings to frame and
highlight them. Contrasting both in intensity and color. More subject
contrast, more compositional focus (not optical focus), more reason for a
viewer's eye to stay. Pay attention to everything that is in your
camera's FOV even if it is out of focus. The subconscious mind takes it all
in. Beginners and amateurs never realize that the out-of-focus areas in
backgrounds and foregrounds are just as important, if not more-so at times,
than the main subject(s). Maximize the use of it all to keep a viewer's eye
engaged. You can't easily change that in editing, just like when shooting
with a polarizer, this must be done at the time of shooting. Pay attention
to it all before you even think about pressing the shutter.

A good photographer attacks/survives his photography like a person who is
riding out a bad car-accident. Everything is in slow motion, your senses
intensely heightened. In that short period of time that you have to capture
the shot you'll make hundreds of subtle and important decisions on when to
trip that shutter and make it all count. One second can seem like an
eternity to a good photographer because they are assessing everything all
at once. This is what makes the difference between the 99.9999% of all
snapshooter camera owners and the rare few real photographers.

At least this shot beats that other low-level remedial "My best ever!"
damsel-fly posted earlier by some 1st-grade beginner that wasn't even worth
the viewing time. And thanks for not trashing the subject with some
egotistical "LOOK AT MY NAME!" water-mark crap. Any photography that has
ever been submitted to me for approval or inspection was immediately
rejected when they try that remedial beginner's ego nonsense. Like some
kindergartner jumping up and down in his seat, wanting everyone to know
their useless name and never doing one thing worth remembering other than
that. Like "Timmeh!" on South-Park. No difference.

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Old June 12th 09, 06:07 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:55:24 -0700 (PDT), Nicko
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On Jun 11, 3:07*am, Critic wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:52:22 +0200, "MJK" wrote:
"Home" ... protect planet
http://images-piegees.over-blog.com/...-32501655.html


Not too bad.


criminally pretentious drivel mercifully deleted

You need to get closer.


The kind of comment that one of the 99.9999% snapshooters of the world
would, and could, ever make. They think that's all that might ever matter
in their 100% remedial scrapshots. I guess you'd give the same advice to
someone who is shooting a stark and barren parking-lot from high above, an
empty space that contains one black car stranded in a field of snow, just
so you could read the license plate. "You need to get closer!" Emptiness in
a photo is just as important to making or breaking an award winner. It is
from the nothingness that's the somethingness acquires and attains its
worth. Without both in correct balance and tensional proportion you have
mundane mediocrity--the snapshot, the scrapshot, the typical yawn-fest
visual that floods all mindless media today.

Go study the word "composition" and why it's never been in your mind's
vocabulary before. However, it is fortunate that you provided the perfect
example of contrast between the way any beginner wannabe thinks when using
their "fancy new camera" and how a pro instinctively and reflexively uses
any camera that might be in their hands. Good job! Thanks. Very universally
fractal of you to do so. You have provided, and are, the nothingness from
which the somethingness acquires and attains its worth.

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Old June 12th 09, 09:22 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Critic wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:55:24 -0700 (PDT), Nicko
wrote:

On Jun 11, 3:07 am, Critic wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:52:22 +0200, "MJK" wrote:
"Home" ... protect planet
http://images-piegees.over-blog.com/...-32501655.html
Not too bad.

criminally pretentious drivel mercifully deleted

You need to get closer.


The kind of comment that one of the 99.9999% snapshooters of the world
would, and could, ever make. They think that's all that might ever matter
in their 100% remedial scrapshots.


Arumph... your own critic starts with:

Though with such a small subject it's a bit lost in all the empty space.
You might have had a little more impact and impression by tightening up on
the subject without losing much in the composition. Much of the beauty of
nature is in the details.


I fail to see much difference (except in length) between the two.

--
Bertrand
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Old June 12th 09, 10:25 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:22:11 +0200, Ofnuts
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Critic wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:55:24 -0700 (PDT), Nicko
wrote:

On Jun 11, 3:07 am, Critic wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:52:22 +0200, "MJK" wrote:
"Home" ... protect planet
http://images-piegees.over-blog.com/...-32501655.html
Not too bad.
criminally pretentious drivel mercifully deleted

You need to get closer.


The kind of comment that one of the 99.9999% snapshooters of the world
would, and could, ever make. They think that's all that might ever matter
in their 100% remedial scrapshots.


Arumph... your own critic starts with:

Though with such a small subject it's a bit lost in all the empty space.
You might have had a little more impact and impression by tightening up on
the subject without losing much in the composition. Much of the beauty of
nature is in the details.


I fail to see much difference (except in length) between the two.


" .... Pay attention to it all before you even think about pressing the
shutter. ..." Emphasis on the ellipses.

Of course you wouldn't see much difference. This is of no surprise, quite
expected. Your mind can only embrace just so much at any one moment. Yours
and the previous poster's minds shut down after the very first tiny portion
of compositional assessments. You started to choke on more. It must be
broken down into the simplest of terms and spoon-fed to you in easy to
masticate baby-sized servings of pablum so that you don't asphyxiate
yourself on the larger adult-sized portions. Thus defining the difference
between true arts and mediocrity, the photographer and the crapshooter, the
genius and the utter moron.

We'll all wait while you grow up enough to chew on and digest the rest. *

You're only teething still.

* Helpful advice: do try to avoid other places and posts on the internet
that might challenge your abilities and sensibilities. I doubt that you'll
ever be ready for more. If you are old enough to type then you have most
likely already become all that you will ever be inside. Things like you
don't normally change nor grow. Recognize your limitations (like the ones
you adequately displayed here) and learn to be happy within them.

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Old June 12th 09, 04:50 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Ofnuts
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Critic wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:22:11 +0200, Ofnuts
wrote:

Critic wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:55:24 -0700 (PDT), Nicko
wrote:

On Jun 11, 3:07 am, Critic wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:52:22 +0200, "MJK" wrote:
"Home" ... protect planet
http://images-piegees.over-blog.com/...-32501655.html
Not too bad.
criminally pretentious drivel mercifully deleted

You need to get closer.
The kind of comment that one of the 99.9999% snapshooters of the world
would, and could, ever make. They think that's all that might ever matter
in their 100% remedial scrapshots.

Arumph... your own critic starts with:

Though with such a small subject it's a bit lost in all the empty space.
You might have had a little more impact and impression by tightening up on
the subject without losing much in the composition. Much of the beauty of
nature is in the details.

I fail to see much difference (except in length) between the two.


" .... Pay attention to it all before you even think about pressing the
shutter. ..." Emphasis on the ellipses.

Of course you wouldn't see much difference. This is of no surprise, quite
expected. Your mind can only embrace just so much at any one moment. Yours
and the previous poster's minds shut down after the very first tiny portion
of compositional assessments. You started to choke on more. It must be
broken down into the simplest of terms and spoon-fed to you in easy to
masticate baby-sized servings of pablum so that you don't asphyxiate
yourself on the larger adult-sized portions. Thus defining the difference
between true arts and mediocrity, the photographer and the crapshooter, the
genius and the utter moron.

We'll all wait while you grow up enough to chew on and digest the rest. *

You're only teething still.

* Helpful advice: do try to avoid other places and posts on the internet
that might challenge your abilities and sensibilities. I doubt that you'll
ever be ready for more. If you are old enough to type then you have most
likely already become all that you will ever be inside. Things like you
don't normally change nor grow. Recognize your limitations (like the ones
you adequately displayed here) and learn to be happy within them.


Why don't you just say "you moron!"? Suffering from a bad case of typorrhea?

--
Bertrand, trying to help
 




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