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Are all Caltar II lenses rebadged Rodenstocks?
Or just certain ones... After the above discussion (2 lens system) I'm
looking at 90mm and 210mm lenses on ebay and seeing a few of these caltars going for less than their Rodenstock counterparts. I'd like the Schneider Super Angulons, but I'd rather keep the two lenses combined to $700 or less. -- Regards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com |
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Matt Clara wrote: Or just certain ones... After the above discussion (2 lens system) I'm looking at 90mm and 210mm lenses on ebay and seeing a few of these caltars going for less than their Rodenstock counterparts. I'd like the Schneider Super Angulons, but I'd rather keep the two lenses combined to $700 or less. One of the wide-angles (I always forget which one) is a Schneider. Also, the 210mm may be a Rodenstock Geronar, which is a triplet design; while very good for a triplet (the result of modern computerized lens design) it falls short of other modern designs both in resolution and in coverage. Which is not to say it's a bad lens! On the contrary, thousands of students have worked with the 210mm Geronar as their _only_ large-format lens and obtained excellent results. But you should be aware that there is more than one kind of 210mm Rodenstock lens out there and know what you're buying. -- Thor Lancelot Simon But as he knew no bad language, he had called him all the names of common objects that he could think of, and had screamed: "You lamp! You towel! You plate!" and so on. --Sigmund Freud |
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Caltar II-S are Schneider
Caltar II-N are Rodenstock. You should easily be able to undercut your $700 limit with the two lenses. If you have trouble, do a bit more research and hopefully you'll see what I mean. When buying used gear, there's no need to choose Schneider Super Angulons over Fuji or Nikon SW or Rodenstock Grandagon. All should give you brilliant results. Regards - Chris Matt Clara wrote: Or just certain ones... After the above discussion (2 lens system) I'm looking at 90mm and 210mm lenses on ebay and seeing a few of these caltars going for less than their Rodenstock counterparts. I'd like the Schneider Super Angulons, but I'd rather keep the two lenses combined to $700 or less. |
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My understanding is that Caltar lenses have over the years been made by
Schneider and Rodenstock. I have a couple and although I don't use them anymore they were very sharp and had good contrast. Matt Clara wrote: : Or just certain ones... After the above discussion (2 lens system) I'm : looking at 90mm and 210mm lenses on ebay and seeing a few of these caltars : going for less than their Rodenstock counterparts. I'd like the Schneider : Super Angulons, but I'd rather keep the two lenses combined to $700 or less. : -- : Regards, : Matt Clara : www.mattclara.com -- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you ------------------- |
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"Matt Clara" apparently said:
Or just certain ones... After the above discussion (2 lens system) I'm looking at 90mm and 210mm lenses on ebay and seeing a few of these caltars going for less than their Rodenstock counterparts. I'd like the Schneider Super Angulons, but I'd rather keep the two lenses combined to $700 or less. I have a Caltar-W II, 90mm f/8. This is a Schneider SA, the only differences being the name, and the lack of a serial number (Schneider did not number the lenses that they made for Calumet, for whatever reason.) I guess mine was toward the end of the series that Scneider made for Calumet, because it's even multicoated. Oh, and one more thing: it was half the price of an identical lens with the Schneider name on it. |
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"Frank Pittel" wrote in message
... My understanding is that Caltar lenses have over the years been made by Schneider and Rodenstock. I have a couple and although I don't use them anymore they were very sharp and had good contrast. Yeah? "They" happen to be a 90 and a 210... ;-) -- Regards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com |
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"Matt Clara" wrote in
news Or just certain ones... After the above discussion (2 lens system) I'm looking at 90mm and 210mm lenses on ebay and seeing a few of these caltars going for less than their Rodenstock counterparts. I'd like the Schneider Super Angulons, but I'd rather keep the two lenses combined to $700 or less. Matt - Caltar lenses are (and were) all manufactured by one of the major manufacturers. Depending on the vintage, Schneider and Rodenstock were the primary suppliers, but there were a few that were made by a Japanese company in the early days. Current vintage lenses are all Rodenstock, and in fact my Caltar N 210mm came in a Rodenstock box. All were good - and some were excellent. If you want more detail, Kerry Thallmann wrote a complete history of Caltar lenses for View Camera last year |
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"Matt Clara" wrote in
news Or just certain ones... After the above discussion (2 lens system) I'm looking at 90mm and 210mm lenses on ebay and seeing a few of these caltars going for less than their Rodenstock counterparts. I'd like the Schneider Super Angulons, but I'd rather keep the two lenses combined to $700 or less. Matt - Caltar lenses are (and were) all manufactured by one of the major manufacturers. Depending on the vintage, Schneider and Rodenstock were the primary suppliers, but there were a few that were made by a Japanese company in the early days. Current vintage lenses are all Rodenstock, and in fact my Caltar N 210mm came in a Rodenstock box. All were good - and some were excellent. If you want more detail, Kerry Thallmann wrote a complete history of Caltar lenses for View Camera last year |
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In article , Stacey wrote:
Thor Lancelot Simon wrote: One of the wide-angles (I always forget which one) is a Schneider. Also, the 210mm may be a Rodenstock Geronar, which is a triplet design; while very good for a triplet (the result of modern computerized lens design) it falls short of other modern designs both in resolution and in coverage. Which is not to say it's a bad lens! On the contrary, thousands of students have worked with the 210mm Geronar as their _only_ large-format lens and obtained excellent results. Have you ever used one of these? Unless someone is making HUGE enlargements I sure have. In fact, the first large-format camera I ever used had a Geronar on it. For a 210mm lens, it really doesn't have a lot of coverage. And I have to disagree with your comparison to the Commercial Ektar; the Geronar might be as sharp in the center but it sure seemed less sharp at the edges to me. Still, they're good lenses. Not as good as, say, a Nikkor-M (nor would one expect them to be), which is pretty much the ultimate modern small 200mm lens, but still, very good. Even being in the same ballpark as a Commercial Ektar makes them very good, as far as I'm concerned. They are not, however, as sharp -- nor do they cover as well -- as other modern 210mm lenses of more sophisticated design. It would be interesting to compare the Geronar to a 210mm "process" plasmat like a G-Claron or Computar or Kowa and see which one's a better deal; there are lots of those floating around used and if you're shopping for a Geronar price is probably a major concern. -- Thor Lancelot Simon But as he knew no bad language, he had called him all the names of common objects that he could think of, and had screamed: "You lamp! You towel! You plate!" and so on. --Sigmund Freud |
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In article , Stacey wrote:
Thor Lancelot Simon wrote: One of the wide-angles (I always forget which one) is a Schneider. Also, the 210mm may be a Rodenstock Geronar, which is a triplet design; while very good for a triplet (the result of modern computerized lens design) it falls short of other modern designs both in resolution and in coverage. Which is not to say it's a bad lens! On the contrary, thousands of students have worked with the 210mm Geronar as their _only_ large-format lens and obtained excellent results. Have you ever used one of these? Unless someone is making HUGE enlargements I sure have. In fact, the first large-format camera I ever used had a Geronar on it. For a 210mm lens, it really doesn't have a lot of coverage. And I have to disagree with your comparison to the Commercial Ektar; the Geronar might be as sharp in the center but it sure seemed less sharp at the edges to me. Still, they're good lenses. Not as good as, say, a Nikkor-M (nor would one expect them to be), which is pretty much the ultimate modern small 200mm lens, but still, very good. Even being in the same ballpark as a Commercial Ektar makes them very good, as far as I'm concerned. They are not, however, as sharp -- nor do they cover as well -- as other modern 210mm lenses of more sophisticated design. It would be interesting to compare the Geronar to a 210mm "process" plasmat like a G-Claron or Computar or Kowa and see which one's a better deal; there are lots of those floating around used and if you're shopping for a Geronar price is probably a major concern. -- Thor Lancelot Simon But as he knew no bad language, he had called him all the names of common objects that he could think of, and had screamed: "You lamp! You towel! You plate!" and so on. --Sigmund Freud |
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