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Panasonic is thinking, "How can we cram this consumer junk with
features, have a huge zoom, and yet keep the price around $500?" "Easy! A cheap, out of date and TINY sensor!!!" |
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Don Wiss skrev: On 22 Aug 2005 02:16:40 -0700, "Jan B=F6hme" wrote: (In addition, there is the extra advantage of being able to protect your LCD screen by turning it inwards when you don't need it - which is most of the time, really. Also this feature is enabled by a bottom hinging.) This is the one I consider important. That one, as a desired feature by itself, is a double-edged sword, though. On one hand, a flip-and-twist LCD can be turned inwards, protecting the screen. On the other, the flip-and-twist mechanism itself is liable to breaking. Essentially, you protect the LCD from one type of damage by introducing entirely new risks of damage. The bottom line isn't altogether obvious. Jan B=F6hme |
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"Jan Böhme" wrote in message oups.com...
Don Wiss skrev: On 22 Aug 2005 02:16:40 -0700, "Jan Böhme" wrote: (In addition, there is the extra advantage of being able to protect your LCD screen by turning it inwards when you don't need it - which is most of the time, really. Also this feature is enabled by a bottom hinging.) This is the one I consider important. That one, as a desired feature by itself, is a double-edged sword, though. On one hand, a flip-and-twist LCD can be turned inwards, protecting the screen. On the other, the flip-and-twist mechanism itself is liable to breaking. Essentially, you protect the LCD from one type of damage by introducing entirely new risks of damage. The bottom line isn't altogether obvious. Jan Böhme I don't know about Panasonic's implementation of twist and swivel, but Canon's is *very* sturdy. I've never heard of anyone breaking off one of their LCDs. And the benefits of a twist and swivel LCD far outweigh its disadvantages.. E.g. it's invaluable for over-the-head shots, candid people shots (you can frame images with the camera sitting on your lap) etc etc. |
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On 22 Aug 2005 02:41:58 -0700, "Jan Böhme" wrote:
NewsDroid wrote: Siiiigh! Does this mean I have to wait for the FZ40? Now that they've fixed essentially all the other user's complaints about the FZ20, what else is there to fix, really? Shutter lag. |
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"NewsDroid" wrote in message ... In article , "David J Taylor" wrote: http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/pa...ew/index.shtml I just read the review and NNGGGAAAAAAAA!!!! How could Panasonic make such a mistake? They've mounted the flip & swivel viewfinder with its hinge at the bottom fer crissake!! That surprised me too. But there must have been a design or engineering reason for it, as surely Panasonic is aware of the more usual arrangement. Flip & swivel viewfinders are a very useful extra, with three particular uses: photos above your head, from waist-level and from in front of the camera. The Canon S2 IS for example works beautifully in all these situations. Especially in the latter, where the remote or delayed shutter allows you to pose in your own photos, as seen from the viewfinder swung to the side. So why the hell did Panasonic put the hinge at the bottom, directly in line with the tripod socket*, blocking any view of the flipped screen from the front? Siiiigh! Does this mean I have to wait for the FZ40? While the FZ30 design is slightly unfortunate in this respect, it's not in any way a deal breaker for me. Only very rarely do I need to see the LCD from the front, and on those occasions I have other cameras that will do that. The FZ30 looks very tempting. N. |
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David J Taylor wrote: wrote: [] Well, I was far less disappointed in the swivel LCD than I was in the image quality of the samples. The reviewer's notes also talk about this -- just as I had suspected, this camera is too noisy. Darn...I was really looking forward to this camera. From a form & function perspective, it seems near perfect. I can't buy a camera that is going to deliver sub-par performance, however. I don't buy the argument that when printing 4x6 photos, the noise isn't an issue. Who can tell ahead of time which photo you might want to enlarge to 8x10? Guess I have to keep looking :-( Chris, have you actually printed any of the samples at 10 x 8 inches? David Honestly, no. I'm going by the quote from the guy who runs the review website: "I printed out some of the test photos that I took at ISO 400 and they made very acceptable 4 x 6 inch prints. At 8.5 x 11 the noise was quite noticeable, but after a trip through NeatImage the print was greatly improved and most people won't even notice it." I've had similar experience (actually printing) from cheaper "noisy" P&S cameras...the noise at even ISO 200 is distracting (to me). Granted, 90% of the time worrying about enlarging an ISO 400 print to 8x10 will not be a problem. However, I know there will be times when I'm on vacation, at an indoor location, or it's getting a bit dark outside and I don't want to use the flash...I'll get that great photo...my wife will ask me to enlarge it so she can put it out on the sofa table...it'll come out "grainy" and then she'll say "so, why did you buy that $700 camera?" My next camera is going to be a tool that can be used for more than sunny outdoor shots or ideal lighting conditions indoors. So, I guess I'm back to figuring out which dSLR and which lens(es) will be optimal for my needs / budget... -Chris |
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