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I want a developer...
....that can give me, mostly with tri-x, Neopan and Plus-x, VERY fine
grain, excellent acutance, good contrast and very smooth tones. (I don't care a lot about shadow details). I strated developing my films 2 months ago, and 'til now I've used only ID11 1+1 and Rodinal with Agfa APX 25. ID11 seems to be a good compromise for what I'm looking for, but maybe you can suggest me a better choice. Thanks. ...................................... Marco Baldovin www.whitewave.it |
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I want a developer...
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whitewave wrote: ...that can give me, mostly with tri-x, Neopan and Plus-x, VERY fine grain, excellent acutance, good contrast and very smooth tones. (I don't care a lot about shadow details). I strated developing my films 2 months ago, and 'til now I've used only ID11 1+1 and Rodinal with Agfa APX 25. ID11 seems to be a good compromise for what I'm looking for, but maybe you can suggest me a better choice. Thanks. ..................................... Marco Baldovin www.whitewave.it Then again,... what you want is someone to do all your testing and give you a magic bullet knowing exactly what it is your striving for? Here's some advice get the Film Developing Cookbook and read it, then select some of the many developers in it and test the film with the chosen developers, that way you'll have some real knowledge versus the many opinions that are often expressed here. -- Duzz that A moose you ? |
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I want a developer...
Xtol. Finer grain, sharper.
But lookout for sudden death (it used to be common, nowadays, with the 5l packet it seems under control, Jorge whitewave wrote in : ...that can give me, mostly with tri-x, Neopan and Plus-x, VERY fine grain, excellent acutance, good contrast and very smooth tones. (I don't care a lot about shadow details). I strated developing my films 2 months ago, and 'til now I've used only ID11 1+1 and Rodinal with Agfa APX 25. ID11 seems to be a good compromise for what I'm looking for, but maybe you can suggest me a better choice. Thanks. ..................................... Marco Baldovin www.whitewave.it |
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I want a developer...
whitewave wrote: ...that can give me, mostly with tri-x, Neopan and Plus-x, VERY fine grain, excellent acutance, good contrast and very smooth tones. (I don't care a lot about shadow details). I strated developing my films 2 months ago, and 'til now I've used only ID11 1+1 and Rodinal with Agfa APX 25. ID11 seems to be a good compromise for what I'm looking for, but maybe you can suggest me a better choice. Well, you could try just diluting ID11 1 + 3 - it means very long dev times and strictly one-shot working with great care in agitation. But in exchange, you get finer grain (as long as you stick to 20C temp) and increased contour sharpness, along with a compensating effect which will unfortunately boost your shadow details. You then print on a harder paper, which of course eliminates the grain advantage, but gives you solid d-max and a crisp look to the print. David |
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I want a developer...
whitewave wrote in message . ..
...that can give me, mostly with tri-x, Neopan and Plus-x, VERY fine grain, excellent acutance, good contrast and very smooth tones. (I don't care a lot about shadow details). I strated developing my films 2 months ago, and 'til now I've used only ID11 1+1 and Rodinal with Agfa APX 25. ID11 seems to be a good compromise for what I'm looking for, but maybe you can suggest me a better choice. Thanks. ..................................... Marco Baldovin www.whitewave.it Try Acutol. Write to me directly for details. |
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I want a developer...
"whitewave" wrote
...that can give me, mostly with tri-x, Neopan and Plus-x, VERY fine grain, excellent acutance, good contrast and very smooth tones. (I don't care a lot about shadow details). I strated developing my films 2 months ago, and 'til now I've used only ID11 1+1 and Rodinal with Agfa APX 25. ID11 or D-76 1:1 is already an optimum choice, especially good with Plus-X. Microdol-X gives finer grain. M-X when used with T-Max 100 results in Tech-Pan levels of grain. It works well with Tri-x if the negs are not overexposed or overdeveloped (ie, keep them a bit thin). I like it 1:1 and have not noticed any increased grain. Stock keeps a long time, use 1-shot - great for occasional darkroom user. My developer of choice for anything that isn't Tech Pan. Xtol is supposed to be better than either of the above but it has a habit of going inactive w/o warning - no color change, no smell, just blank negatives. With lots of bottling care and expiration dates it becomes practical, so they say. I never saw any real performance advantage over D-76 and M-X. Other vendors have their own take on the above 4, there is not much difference between Kodak, Ilford, .... Buy local. I recomend Technidol & Tech-Pan for the smoothest tones (at 11x14" the enlargements look like they came from a 4x5 negative.) This combination is my film/developer of choice. ASA 25 is the same speed as the late Kodachrome (25) and K-25 was used hand held in Argus C-3's, so slow speed is _not_ an issue. I use Tech-Pan for candids, kids playing, high speed action shots (sunny f16 at 1/25th second is sunny f1.4 at 1/2000 of a second, indoors close to a window. Using lenses wide open the subject becomes very nicely isolated: try it!) I guess devlopers are like wheels: even though the design is 5,000 years old, round ones can't be beat. -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics. |
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I want a developer...
Then again,...
what you want is someone to do all your testing and give you a magic bullet knowing exactly what it is your striving for? Too many developers, and above all too many developer-film possibilities. Now I'm reading Ilford Product Data Guide. They offer 8 developers, add the ones made by Kodak, the ones made by agfa and so on. Ilford: ID11 - reading at their review it seems what I want MICROPHEN - Is it useful for push processing only? PERCEPTOL - the extra fine grain and the excellent definition seems ok. But is it suitable for slow film only? DDx - it seems exactly the developer I want, but I think I never saw it in darkroom suplliers ILFOSOL and ILFOTEC HC - tell me more. Is Ilfotech the HC-110 from Ilford? Could I use HC in small tank? DD and RT - don't mind. ...................................... Marco Baldovin www.whitewave.it |
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I want a developer...
"whitewave" ha scritto nel messaggio
... ..................................... Marco Baldovin www.whitewave.it Spettacolo n! -- http://www.neotokiodesign.com/blog.htm |
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I want a developer...
Uzytkownik "whitewave" napisal w wiadomosci ...that can give me, mostly with tri-x, Neopan and Plus-x, VERY fine grain, excellent acutance, good contrast and very smooth tones. (I don't care a lot about shadow details). Don't know how it would work with Neopan and Plus-X, but an old (?) Kodak (?) formula called D-23 (look in the Darkroom Cookbook) works wonders with Tri-X. Less grain than in ID-11, smooth, velvety blacks. Regards, Magdalena |
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I want a developer...
"whitewave" wrote in message ... ...that can give me, mostly with tri-x, Neopan and Plus-x, VERY fine grain, excellent acutance, good contrast and very smooth tones. (I don't care a lot about shadow details). I strated developing my films 2 months ago, and 'til now I've used only ID11 1+1 and Rodinal with Agfa APX 25. ID11 seems to be a good compromise for what I'm looking for, but maybe you can suggest me a better choice. No developer will give you grain with Tri-X that is as fine as a 25 speed film. However, in general, the way to get fine grain is to avoid overdevelopment and avoid Rodinal. ID-11 is not bad; Kodak Xtol (if you can get it) may be appreciably better. |
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