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wrote: .... Round off isn't an issue here. yes it is. You'll have to explain pecisely how round off figures into this. because mirrorless and slrs *combined* has under 1% share, and that was two years ago. it's less now. https://petapixel.com/2017/03/03/lat...t-reveals-deat h-compact-camera/ łBut literally 98.4% of the consumer cameras sold in 2016 were built into smartphones * only 0.8% were compacts, 0.5% DSLRs, and 0.2% mirrorless.˛ |
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.... Round off isn't an issue here. yes it is. You'll have to explain pecisely how round off figures into this. because mirrorless and slrs *combined* has under 1% share, and that was two years ago. it's less now. https://petapixel.com/2017/03/03/lat...t-reveals-deat h-compact-camera/ But literally 98.4% of the consumer cameras sold in 2016 were built into smartphones * only 0.8% were compacts, 0.5% DSLRs, and 0.2% mirrorless. OK fine, but I don't see a word about round off, which was my question. Also, smartphones are mirrorless, as perhaps other things not included in the mirrorless tally. Aren't only SLRs and DSLRs the only things with mirrors ? |
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Normal screen resolution is 1920 x 1080 pixcels. nope. that's one of *many* display resolutions available today. Well it's common for most desktops running Windows. Sure laptops and others will be different. So what ? Just substitute other appropriate numbers and my arguments still hold. If an image is produced by a sensor with the same resolution, then enough information, as levels of red, green and blue, ranging from 0 to 255, are obtained for each of the 1920 x 1080 = 2,073,600 pixcels, and the image can be displayed accordingly. Now, if the number of sensor pixcels are doubled in both dirrections, then the image is produced at a higher resolution, and fully 4 pixcels have to be mapped into each of the full screen display pixcels. In this case, the 4 should be resolved into one, using some kind of round off scheme. what you're describing is a retina display, except that it's a lot more complicated than simply rounding off and may not be double either. You'll have to clarify. retina display ? I only used double as a convenient reference, but any increase would also apply. |
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In article ,
wrote: .... Round off isn't an issue here. yes it is. You'll have to explain pecisely how round off figures into this. because mirrorless and slrs *combined* has under 1% share, and that was two years ago. it's less now. https://petapixel.com/2017/03/03/lat...t-reveals-deat h-compact-camera/ But literally 98.4% of the consumer cameras sold in 2016 were built into smartphones * only 0.8% were compacts, 0.5% DSLRs, and 0.2% mirrorless. OK fine, but I don't see a word about round off, which was my question. 98.4% is close enough to 100%. Also, smartphones are mirrorless, as perhaps other things not included in the mirrorless tally. the categories are clear. Aren't only SLRs and DSLRs the only things with mirrors ? cars have them, and they even have cameras too. |
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In article ,
wrote: Normal screen resolution is 1920 x 1080 pixcels. nope. that's one of *many* display resolutions available today. Well it's common for most desktops running Windows. Sure laptops and others will be different. So what ? Just substitute other appropriate numbers and my arguments still hold. 1920x1080 and 1920x1200 were popular more than a decade ago and have been eclipsed by much higher resolutions. they do still exist, mostly low end stuff. the better displays are now 4k or 5k, even in laptops. heck, most *phones* have a higher resolution than 1920x1080. If an image is produced by a sensor with the same resolution, then enough information, as levels of red, green and blue, ranging from 0 to 255, are obtained for each of the 1920 x 1080 = 2,073,600 pixcels, and the image can be displayed accordingly. Now, if the number of sensor pixcels are doubled in both dirrections, then the image is produced at a higher resolution, and fully 4 pixcels have to be mapped into each of the full screen display pixcels. In this case, the 4 should be resolved into one, using some kind of round off scheme. what you're describing is a retina display, except that it's a lot more complicated than simply rounding off and may not be double either. You'll have to clarify. retina display ? I only used double as a convenient reference, but any increase would also apply. retina display is apple's name for hi-dpi, where individual pixels are smaller than what the human eye can resolve, and since they were first to mass market it, the name has become somewhat generic. there is no longer a 1:1 ratio between points & pixels and it doesn't need to be an integral multiple either. once the pixels are smaller than what humans can resolve, fuzziness and jagginess goes away. |
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98.4% is close enough to 100%. Oh THAT round off. Sheesh ! Also, smartphones are mirrorless, as perhaps other things not included in the mirrorless tally. the categories are clear. Not to me they aren't. Without a mirror related to photography, means mirrorless ! Everything except SLRs and DSLRs . Aren't only SLRs and DSLRs the only things with mirrors ? cars have them, and they even have cameras too. Yes, but the mirrors on a car don't relate to the picture taking, so any camera used in the car is also quite mirrorless. |
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Since we're talking resolutions -
I have a desktop and a laptop, both running Windows 7 . I wasn't fool enough to go to Windows 8, and really not fool enough to go to Windows 10 . Windows 7 is the optimal OS IMHO . Possible resolutions are : Desktop - 1920 x 1080 ( recommended ), 1600 x 900, 1280 x 720 and 800 x 600 Laptop - 1366 x 768 ( recommended ) and 800 x 600 I've developed applications intended for both the recommendeds with user selection of either. |
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In article ,
wrote: Also, smartphones are mirrorless, as perhaps other things not included in the mirrorless tally. the categories are clear. Not to me they aren't. Without a mirror related to photography, means mirrorless ! Everything except SLRs and DSLRs . they are to anyone who follows the industry. slrs are cameras that use a mirror. r stands for reflex. long ago, slrs used film. today they use digital sensors (and are much better). everything else is mirrorless, however, the term 'mirrorless' has come to mean interchangeable lens cameras without a mirror, not simply the lack of a mirror. they're sometimes called a milc, for mirrorless interchangeable lens camera (not to be confused with milf, which is very different). compact digicams and smartphone cameras are also mirrorless, but they're not called that. they have their own categories. |
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In article ,
wrote: Since we're talking resolutions - I have a desktop and a laptop, both running Windows 7 . I wasn't fool enough to go to Windows 8, and really not fool enough to go to Windows 10 . Windows 7 is the optimal OS IMHO . maybe optimal for a decade ago but certainly not now. win10 is much better and a lot more secure than win7 and certainly win 8 (which was a mistake). Possible resolutions are : Desktop - 1920 x 1080 ( recommended ), 1600 x 900, 1280 x 720 and 800 x 600 Laptop - 1366 x 768 ( recommended ) and 800 x 600 time to upgrade that aging display, although that might mean a new computer too. I've developed applications intended for both the recommendeds with user selection of either. then your apps will look like **** on modern displays, and they shouldn't be hardcoded to specific resolutions anyway. |
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