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Newbie Seeking Advice
I am just getting into photography, just retired, and have purchased a Rebel
XT. Now I need lenses and in particular would like to purchase good quality used lenses. I would like a good portrait lens, a lens for landscape and vista shots, and a lens for long range wildlife pictures? I would appreciate advice on which lenses I should look for and where I might find good used lenses at a reasonable price. Retired teachers don't have a lot to spend. |
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Newbie Seeking Advice
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:55:21 -0500, "Bill H."
wrote: I am just getting into photography, just retired, and have purchased a Rebel XT. Now I need lenses and in particular would like to purchase good quality used lenses. I would like a good portrait lens, a lens for landscape and vista shots, and a lens for long range wildlife pictures? I would appreciate advice on which lenses I should look for and where I might find good used lenses at a reasonable price. Retired teachers don't have a lot to spend. I can highly recommend a Tamron 35-105 F2.8 Zoom)C$1200 new) and a canon F2.8 80-200 Zomm (C$2000 new)IF you want Macro - I can also recommend a TAmron 90 MM F2.8 Fixed (C$900 new) |
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Jim Mitchell wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:55:21 -0500, "Bill H." wrote: I am just getting into photography, just retired, and have purchased a Rebel XT. Now I need lenses and in particular would like to purchase good quality used lenses. I would like a good portrait lens, a lens for landscape and vista shots, and a lens for long range wildlife pictures? I would appreciate advice on which lenses I should look for and where I might find good used lenses at a reasonable price. Retired teachers don't have a lot to spend. I can highly recommend a Tamron 35-105 F2.8 Zoom)C$1200 new) and a canon F2.8 80-200 Zomm (C$2000 new)IF you want Macro - I can also recommend a TAmron 90 MM F2.8 Fixed (C$900 new) Something to consider are image stabilization lenses, especially as we get older in retirement. To the OP: tell us more. Are you interested in great quality (e.g. you want image to make nice enlargements to hang on your wall) or no more than 8x10, or just snapshots? It does make a difference in lens selection. Do you want only zoom lenses (zooms limit quality), or are you willing to change lenses? Roger Photos at: http://www.clarkvision.com |
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Bill H. wrote: I am just getting into photography, just retired, and have purchased a Rebel XT. Is that a digital of film camera? Not familar with the XT. Now I need lenses and in particular would like to purchase good quality used lenses. Yeah man - why buy new and you can save huge $ and buy used. I make a point to try and always by used electronics. The best place to shop in www.keh.com. They are in Atlanta, GA - where are you? I've ordered many things from them and am quite happy with the results. I would like a good portrait lens, Go for a fixed focal length for portraits - you can move closer or further away, plus you need a fast lens for portraits and zoom lenses are notorious for not the greatest f-stop ranges. The best portrait lens is around a 85 or 90mm lens but try and get the lowest f-stop possible - that's very important for portraits, otherwise you are severely limitied in your results. You can get some decent non-canon lenses at f 2.8 for $100-200 but the quicker lens are expensive. But a good cheap fast lens is Canon's 50mm 1.8 - $50 or so. a lens for landscape and vista shots, Not sure what a vista shot is but for landscapes get yourself a wide angle zoom - no lower than 20mm and up to 35 or 50mm, Canon has a 20-35mm f3.5-4.5 for over $200. Tokina has the same for little over $100, Tamron's 20-40mm for $165, etc. Note: all the prices I'm giving is off of KEH.com's site for used equipment. and a lens for long range wildlife pictures? You want a telephoto - probably best to get a telephoto zoom and a fixed focal length: Sigma 70-210mm for $349 Sigma 134-400mm 4.5-5.6 for $379 Sigma 400mm f5.6 for $149 I actually have the Sigma 400mm 5.6 - recently shot some pics just haven't gotten them developed yet - thinking of getting a 1.4x converter to turn that 400mm into a 600mm and only lose 1 stop. I would appreciate advice on ... where I might find good used lenses at a reasonable price. Retired teachers don't have a lot to spend. KEH man - trust me - they even have really knowledgeable salespersons who are photographers and know their shtuff. So do a little bit of homework, then check out their site for lens, prices, etc. - Camera Store tab So for portraits you want a fixed focal length around the 70 or 80mm range Landscape - start with a zoom of 10-35mm Nature/Wildlife - 100-300mm zoom AND a 400mm fixed focal legth And throw in that 50mm 1.8 for $100. |
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Lenses: Canon lenses hold their value pretty well, so not much to save (or lose) with them. Suggest you consider canon lenses new, third party used. Landscape: I like the Tokina 17mm which is no longer sold new. Nice and sharp, slight distortions, a real bargain lens. Tamron 28-75 f2.8 is second, zoom versatility, a little long reach for a 1.6 crop camera though. The Sigma 20 f1.8 is well regarded (but I never owned) Portrait: can't beat the 85 f1.8 canon, but a 60 or 10x mm macro would probably do nicely too. Wildlife: I really like the canon 100-400 f5.6 IS, but it may not fit your cost requirements. The canon 400 f5.6 IS is a bit less $, and sharper than the zoom, though lacking the portability and versitility of the 100-400. The Sigma 50-500 is well regarded, and used should be a real bargain. There are some new lenses out which I haven't seen yet, look around the web, especially fred miranda's site and dpreview. Good luck. -Mark
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Mark - question - I could have sworn I read an article that you should
not buy zooms where the upper end is 3x or more the bottom - e.g. a 100-300mm is okay 'cause 3x100=300 but a 70-300 is not 'cause 70x3=210 and the 300 is larger than that - I can't rememebr the exact logic behind it - maybe poor f-stop range, or maybe a clarity issue or dunno - are you aware of such a thing - ;'cause if it's true I would say the 100-400 and 50-500 would not be good choices - anyone else hear of that guideline - any one able to explain the logic? Jim |
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Cisco Kid wrote:
Mark - question - I could have sworn I read an article that you should not buy zooms where the upper end is 3x or more the bottom - e.g. a 100-300mm is okay 'cause 3x100=300 but a 70-300 is not 'cause 70x3=210 and the 300 is larger than that - I can't rememebr the exact logic behind it - maybe poor f-stop range, or maybe a clarity issue or dunno - are you aware of such a thing - ;'cause if it's true I would say the 100-400 and 50-500 would not be good choices - anyone else hear of that guideline - any one able to explain the logic? Jim Jim, There are no hard and fast rules, just general guidelines. For example: fixed focal length = sharper than 3x zoom = sharper than 3x zoom But someone could get a poorly made fixed lens that was worse than a 4x zoom. But a longer zoom range is harder to design without some compromise. Sometimes sharpness can be maintained at the expense of minimum focus distance, or flair, or f/ratio, etc. I have a 100-400 L IS lens and mine is not sharp, especially at the long end. Previously I used (actually still have) canon 75-300, canon 100-300 IS, and sigma 170-500 (actually mine is very sharp). But I no longer use any of these lenses as they are not good enough for my needs. The problem with digital and the high megapixel APS-C sensors is the pixels are so small that it is equivalent to using ISO 50 speed film (in terms of resolution), so the requirements for a sharp lens is driven to a very high level. Zooms in general don't cut it for very sharp images, unless you stop down. Stopping down is bad for wildlife action, or sports action. So, I have switched all telephoto work to fixed lenses. I replaced my 100-400 with a 300 f/4 L IS. That gives several advantages: less cost, sharper, faster f/stop so faster shutter speeds, works well with a 1.4x TC, and is lighter than the 100-400. My 300 f/4 + 1.4x TC gives 420 mm f/5.6 and sharper images than my 100-400 at 400mm. Example: http://www.clarkvision.com/galleries...962.b-700.html For wildlife, IS is extremely beneficial and I would not buy another telephoto lens without IS. (My other telephoto is a 500 mm f/4 L IS.) Photos at: http://www.clarkvision.com Roger |
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