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Don't ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for the DSLR
In article , Savageduck wrote:
RichA: New sensors with high read-out speeds (over 15fps for DX) will mean the end of the DSLR as the premier sports and action cameras. Mirror-less professional cameras are in the offing. Contrary to those who think video cameras will take over, they won't; you can't really capture fast action in single images at 30-120fps. Bill W: Well, I mean why not, and who would care? I don't think DSLR owners have any particular fondness for mirrors flopping around in their cameras. Once the mirrorless tech catches up to SLR functionality, why would anyone cry over that? As long as we can use our current lenses, and can get the same image quality under all conditions, why not? There are certainly benefits to mirrorless. I'll be able to tell you next weekend. My new Fuji mirrorless should be here from B&H by the middle of the week. I will start with the two major benefits lower weight & lower bulk. http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_e2 I am going to have some photographic exploring to do. Indeed! You must let us know what you think, and how it compares to your DSLR -- Sandman |
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Don't ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for the DSLR
In article , Bill W wrote:
RichA: New sensors with high read-out speeds (over 15fps for DX) will mean the end of the DSLR as the premier sports and action cameras. Mirror-less professional cameras are in the offing. Contrary to those who think video cameras will take over, they won't; you can't really capture fast action in single images at 30-120fps. Well, I mean why not, and who would care? I don't think DSLR owners have any particular fondness for mirrors flopping around in their cameras. Once the mirrorless tech catches up to SLR functionality, why would anyone cry over that? As long as we can use our current lenses, and can get the same image quality under all conditions, why not? There are certainly benefits to mirrorless. The benefit of mirrorless today is two things, really. Smaller cameras and sensor representation in the viewfinder. I have the Sony A7, which is considerably smaller than the smallest Nikon full frame camera. And seeing the end result in the viewfinder when you're taking the photo is really handy at times. Having said that, there are a few really huge drawbacks: - Viewfinder lag. The sensor can have whatever read-out speed it like, but the lag is very noticeable, and there is no way it can be used for sports photography. - Startup time. Every DSLR I've ever own is ready to use as soon as I turn it on. There is no delay at all. Every mirrorless I've ever own has (in comparison) a HUGE startup time, where I turn it on and have to wait, sometimes two or three seconds before I can take a shot. If it's been off for a longer while, it will take even longer to start for unknown reasons. - Battery time. There is no comparison. My Sony A7's battery dies needs a recharge all the time, while the Nikon batteries just keep taking great shots - Lens selection. Few mirrorless cameras have an array of native legendary lenses like the Nikon 14-24/f.28 or the Canon 50/f1.2. Adapters are great, and it's really neat how you can adapt most of any lens to a mirrorless camera with a short flange distance, but it just shows how poor the lens selection is to begin with -- Sandman |
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Don't ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for the DSLR
On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:03:59 +1200, Me wrote:
On 20/04/2015 2:51 p.m., Eric Stevens wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 13:23:48 -0700, Savageduck wrote: --- snip --- The Black Rapid Strap was for me, probably the one thing which took the pain out of carrying the Nikon by the standard strap around my neck, and made those days tolerable. I highly recommed it to all DSLR shooters. I have the problem that my camera permanently has a Manfrotto shoe mounted on the bottom so that I can clip it onto a tripod. I never worked out how connect a Black Rapid at the same time. http://www.blackrapid.com/products/fastenr-t1 But I already have https://www.astronomics.com/images/P...arge/19688.jpg screwed into the camera. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Don't ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for the DSLR
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 20:32:15 -0700, Bill W
wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 14:51:57 +1200, Eric Stevens wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 13:23:48 -0700, Savageduck wrote: --- snip --- The Black Rapid Strap was for me, probably the one thing which took the pain out of carrying the Nikon by the standard strap around my neck, and made those days tolerable. I highly recommed it to all DSLR shooters. I have the problem that my camera permanently has a Manfrotto shoe mounted on the bottom so that I can clip it onto a tripod. I never worked out how connect a Black Rapid at the same time. http://joby.com/camera-straps/ultrap...-release-plate Here's mine: http://i.imgur.com/QOS1NC5.jpg That's a point. Many thanks. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Don't ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for the DSLR
On 2015-04-20 08:51:08 +0000, Eric Stevens said:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:03:59 +1200, Me wrote: On 20/04/2015 2:51 p.m., Eric Stevens wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 13:23:48 -0700, Savageduck wrote: --- snip --- The Black Rapid Strap was for me, probably the one thing which took the pain out of carrying the Nikon by the standard strap around my neck, and made those days tolerable. I highly recommed it to all DSLR shooters. I have the problem that my camera permanently has a Manfrotto shoe mounted on the bottom so that I can clip it onto a tripod. I never worked out how connect a Black Rapid at the same time. http://www.blackrapid.com/products/fastenr-t1 But I already have https://www.astronomics.com/images/P...arge/19688.jpg screwed into the camera. You need to replace the Manfrotto screw with the Black Rapid replacement (FR-T1). Use the new one to attach the plate to the camera. That will allow the metal loop to be folded flat when you unhook the strap and attach the camera to the Manfrotto quick mount. Watch the videos in the above, now repeated by me, URL. http://www.blackrapid.com/products/fastenr-t1 -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Don't ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for the DSLR
On 4/19/2015 7:53 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-04-19 23:35:11 +0000, PeterN said: On 4/19/2015 5:30 PM, Me wrote: On 20/04/2015 8:23 a.m., Savageduck wrote: The Black Rapid Strap was for me, probably the one thing which took the pain out of carrying the Nikon by the standard strap around my neck, and made those days tolerable. I highly recommed it to all DSLR shooters. I second that. As well as for ease of carrying, with the position of the camera on the strap, it's a far more natural movement to bring the camera up to your eye. I bought a Black Rapid strap, then was given a "Quick Strap". It looks superficially very much like the Black Rapid strap even with a moulded plastic "K" logo with similar colour etc in the same place as the "R" logo. I believe that they're about 1/2 the price. The webbing is much thinner (though probably plenty strong enough), and too easy to twist in the clamps when you adjust them. The clamps also don't seem to lock down as positively. The tail end of the Black Rapid strap has been folded and stitched, so the end probably (hopefully) wouldn't pull through the buckle, but the "Quick Strap" webbing end has only been cut and melted to prevent fraying. While it might be unlikely to happen, if it did then it might be an expensive problem. An added advantage of these straps is that you can easily get rid of them when using a tripod - conventional neck-straps have given me more than a few heart-stopping moments when using a tripod. I agree that Black Rapid is a good strap. I bought a new model. Turned out that it had a pocket that was held closed with a magnet. The magnet was positioned so that it interferred with my pacemaker. I complained to Black Rapid about this issue. They basically told me tough ****, and they would do nothing. i traded my new model with a friend for one that did not have a magnet. Their callous indifference to my potential danger is disgusting. For that reason I will never purchase or recommend a Black Rapid product. Strange. My BRS has a zippered pocket on the shoulder pad. I didn't know about any pockets with magnetic closures, or fasteners. Obviously they changed it. My point is i will not do businesss with a company that doesn't give a **** for its customers. -- PeterN |
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Don't ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for the DSLR
In article , Eric Stevens wrote:
Eric Stevens: --- snip --- Savageduck: The Black Rapid Strap was for me, probably the one thing which took the pain out of carrying the Nikon by the standard strap around my neck, and made those days tolerable. I highly recommed it to all DSLR shooters. Eric Stevens: I have the problem that my camera permanently has a Manfrotto shoe mounted on the bottom so that I can clip it onto a tripod. I never worked out how connect a Black Rapid at the same time. Me: http://www.blackrapid.com/products/fastenr-t1 But I already have https://www.astronomics.com/images/P...arge/19688.jpg screwed into the camera. The FRT-1 is meant to fit into that very plate. Watch the video: http://www.blackrapid.com/culture/videos/?id=85#85 Three simple steps, done. -- Sandman |
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Don't ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for the DSLR
"Me" wrote in message
... On 20/04/2015 8:23 a.m., Savageduck wrote: The Black Rapid Strap was for me, probably the one thing which took the pain out of carrying the Nikon by the standard strap around my neck, and made those days tolerable. I highly recommed it to all DSLR shooters. I second that. As well as for ease of carrying, with the position of the camera on the strap, it's a far more natural movement to bring the camera up to your eye. I used a BR strap but found the hardware on the bottom of the camera too clunky to deal with when I would orient the camera in portrait mode. The bulk of the hardware under my right hand made it uncomfortable for me. I switched to the Op/Tech Sling Strap which attaches to a camera lug rather than the tripod socket. I bought a Black Rapid strap, then was given a "Quick Strap". It looks superficially very much like the Black Rapid strap even with a moulded plastic "K" logo with similar colour etc in the same place as the "R" logo. I believe that they're about 1/2 the price. The webbing is much thinner (though probably plenty strong enough), and too easy to twist in the clamps when you adjust them. The clamps also don't seem to lock down as positively. The tail end of the Black Rapid strap has been folded and stitched, so the end probably (hopefully) wouldn't pull through the buckle, but the "Quick Strap" webbing end has only been cut and melted to prevent fraying. While it might be unlikely to happen, if it did then it might be an expensive problem. An added advantage of these straps is that you can easily get rid of them when using a tripod - conventional neck-straps have given me more than a few heart-stopping moments when using a tripod. |
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Don't ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for the DSLR
On 2015-04-20 15:27:38 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 10:09:24 -0400, "PAS" wrote: "Me" wrote in message ... On 20/04/2015 8:23 a.m., Savageduck wrote: The Black Rapid Strap was for me, probably the one thing which took the pain out of carrying the Nikon by the standard strap around my neck, and made those days tolerable. I highly recommed it to all DSLR shooters. I second that. As well as for ease of carrying, with the position of the camera on the strap, it's a far more natural movement to bring the camera up to your eye. I used a BR strap but found the hardware on the bottom of the camera too clunky to deal with when I would orient the camera in portrait mode. The bulk of the hardware under my right hand made it uncomfortable for me. I switched to the Op/Tech Sling Strap which attaches to a camera lug rather than the tripod socket. I am trying, unsuccessfully, to construct a mental picture of how you hold the camera in portrait mode. It has never been an issue for me. With my Black Rapid strap, I keep the camera on my right side and bring it up with my right hand on the shutter end of the camera and my left hand on the lens. The tripod socket and the strap connector are to my left and completely out of the way. Out in space, so to speak. Mine is also on my right, and brought into action with my right hand. It is simple enough to rotate counter clockwise into portrait orientation. That brings my right hand to the top. Since I also have the MB-D10 battery grip attached, I have the option of using the battery grip, shutter release which would bring my hand back down to the right. I find that just making the quick rotation works best for me. If I use the grip the BR fastener & hook sit uncomfortably right in my palm. I am left-handed, but I don't think that factors in here at all. I've become so used to the right-hand configuration of a camera body (shutter release on the right) that it is completely natural to me. Being right handed, I don't know what it is like to be a lefty in a right handed world. The only time left-handedness factors in is when I'm using a tripod. I keep the tightening knobs on the left. Maybe right-handers do the same, though. While Black Rapid straps can be used with adapters or some quick-disconnect tripod plates so the plate and strap can always be on the camera, I remove the Black Rapid strap and put on the plate when I use my tripod. I don't use a tripod that much, and - when I do - I don't want the strap hanging down. Using a tripod is a deliberate and infrequent thing for me, so I pretty much follow what you do when I need to use one. Remove the BR fastener, attach the QR plate. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Don't ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for the DSLR
"Tony Cooper" wrote in message
... On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 10:09:24 -0400, "PAS" wrote: "Me" wrote in message ... On 20/04/2015 8:23 a.m., Savageduck wrote: The Black Rapid Strap was for me, probably the one thing which took the pain out of carrying the Nikon by the standard strap around my neck, and made those days tolerable. I highly recommed it to all DSLR shooters. I second that. As well as for ease of carrying, with the position of the camera on the strap, it's a far more natural movement to bring the camera up to your eye. I used a BR strap but found the hardware on the bottom of the camera too clunky to deal with when I would orient the camera in portrait mode. The bulk of the hardware under my right hand made it uncomfortable for me. I switched to the Op/Tech Sling Strap which attaches to a camera lug rather than the tripod socket. I am trying, unsuccessfully, to construct a mental picture of how you hold the camera in portrait mode. It would have helped if I didn't leave out one important factor - I use a battery grip. As I flip the camera into portrait mode, my right hand is holding the botom of the grip and I use the controls on the grip to release the shutter, change aperture/shutter speed, etc. I just found it too uncomfortable holding the camera that way with the screw that attached the BR strap to the tripod socket underneath my hand. With my Black Rapid strap, I keep the camera on my right side and bring it up with my right hand on the shutter end of the camera and my left hand on the lens. The tripod socket and the strap connector are to my left and completely out of the way. Out in space, so to speak. I am left-handed, but I don't think that factors in here at all. I've become so used to the right-hand configuration of a camera body (shutter release on the right) that it is completely natural to me. The only time left-handedness factors in is when I'm using a tripod. I keep the tightening knobs on the left. Maybe right-handers do the same, though. Same here. I'm also left-handed but use the camera as any right-handed person would do. It also feels completely natural to me. It's the same for me with the tripod as it is with you. While Black Rapid straps can be used with adapters or some quick-disconnect tripod plates so the plate and strap can always be on the camera, I remove the Black Rapid strap and put on the plate when I use my tripod. I don't use a tripod that much, and - when I do - I don't want the strap hanging down. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando FL |
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