Another Exposure 7 Trial Shot

On 2015-04-16 05:39:15 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:16:32 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-16 04:30:31 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 21:02:21 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-16 02:48:35 +0000, Savageduck said:
On 2015-04-16 02:37:30 +0000, RichA said:
On Wednesday, 15 April 2015 16:34:08 UTC-4, Savageduck wrote:
Here is a Lightroom adjusted original (top left) compared with two
Exposure 7 renditions.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_98.jpg

"Go on an write me up for 125"
"Post my face wanted dead or alive"
"Take my license, all that jive."
"I..can't stand....HDR!!"

That's good to know since nothing in the processing of that single
image had anything to so with HDR. It was a single RAW image with
initial procssing in Lightroom 5, and just run through "Exposure 7" as
a Lightroom plug-in.

So now what do you think of "Exposure 7" which doesn't do HDR?
http://www.alienskin.com/exposure/

Here you go Rich. Another non-HDR image given the "Exposure 7" treatment.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/_DNC0721-Edit-2-1-Exposure.jpg


Someone needs to check out hell. It may have frozen over. I agree
with RichA.

While the two may not have been a result of HDR, they both have that
over-processed look that is so often the mark of HDR gone wild.

It's sad, too. That pelican shot is well-composed and well done with
the darkening at the top and lower sides. Background is good.
Unfortunately, the final look has all the appeal of a pair of 1970s
golf pants.

I think it's fine if you do that as long as you don't get your
feelings hurt if some viewers think it makes their eyes hurt.

Fine. For now I am just playing around to see what can be done.
That said, you should consider meeting up with your new pal Rich,
perhaps you could have a conversation over a fine meal, or pleasant
beverage, to discuss the finer points of photographic equipment,
vendors, and post processing.

Ahhh, you *did* get your feelings hurt.

You frequently review someone else's photograph and express an itch to
process it your way. Differently. And you sometimes do. Your
approval of PeterN's abstracts and other efforts has not been
particularly effusive. You should understand that we all don't like
the same things and sometimes express this.

I think I've agreed with nospam and Popinjay on at least once occasion
about something. However, we aren't planning to meet for a coffee
klatch.

You can discuss the non-HDR qualities of these two,

This time a 1915 Indian.
https://db.tt/UL717ftr
....and a little something in B&W.
https://db.tt/DB7Dnw4C

--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 16/04/2015 4:47 p.m., Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 17:59:23 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-04-16 00:39:54 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:32:58 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-15 21:27:56 +0000, Eric Stevens said:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 13:38:43 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-15 20:34:00 +0000, Savageduck said:

Here is a Lightroom adjusted original (top left) compared with two
Exposure 7 renditions.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_98.jpg

Here is what the color version looks like on its own.
https://db.tt/Q19nZvE6

Now THAT's a silly place for an oil pressure gauge! :-)

At least he has one.

And much good it will do him situated down below his leg.

If he ever needs to check, it will probably after he gets a leg covered
in a warning soak of hot oil. Then he can look down to see why.
Remember that is more than likely a dry sump machine, that is the oil
tank under the saddle.
If that's a "saddle", Roy Rogers would have needed a tin arse.

And with rolling bearings it needs very little lubrication and only
enough oil pressure to get the oil to where it's wanted.

....on the road, driveway, or garage floor. HD design feature,

On 2015-04-16 14:33:58 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 00:29:20 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-16 05:39:15 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:16:32 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-16 04:30:31 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 21:02:21 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-16 02:48:35 +0000, Savageduck said:
On 2015-04-16 02:37:30 +0000, RichA said:
On Wednesday, 15 April 2015 16:34:08 UTC-4, Savageduck wrote:
Here is a Lightroom adjusted original (top left) compared with two
Exposure 7 renditions.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_98.jpg

"Go on an write me up for 125"
"Post my face wanted dead or alive"
"Take my license, all that jive."
"I..can't stand....HDR!!"

That's good to know since nothing in the processing of that single
image had anything to so with HDR. It was a single RAW image with
initial procssing in Lightroom 5, and just run through "Exposure 7" as
a Lightroom plug-in.

So now what do you think of "Exposure 7" which doesn't do HDR?
http://www.alienskin.com/exposure/

Here you go Rich. Another non-HDR image given the "Exposure 7" treatment.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/_DNC0721-Edit-2-1-Exposure.jpg



Someone needs to check out hell. It may have frozen over. I agree
with RichA.

While the two may not have been a result of HDR, they both have that
over-processed look that is so often the mark of HDR gone wild.

It's sad, too. That pelican shot is well-composed and well done with
the darkening at the top and lower sides. Background is good.
Unfortunately, the final look has all the appeal of a pair of 1970s
golf pants.

I think it's fine if you do that as long as you don't get your
feelings hurt if some viewers think it makes their eyes hurt.

Fine. For now I am just playing around to see what can be done.
That said, you should consider meeting up with your new pal Rich,
perhaps you could have a conversation over a fine meal, or pleasant
beverage, to discuss the finer points of photographic equipment,
vendors, and post processing.

Ahhh, you *did* get your feelings hurt.

You frequently review someone else's photograph and express an itch to
process it your way. Differently. And you sometimes do. Your
approval of PeterN's abstracts and other efforts has not been
particularly effusive. You should understand that we all don't like
the same things and sometimes express this.

I think I've agreed with nospam and Popinjay on at least once occasion
about something. However, we aren't planning to meet for a coffee
klatch.

You can discuss the non-HDR qualities of these two,

This time a 1915 Indian.
https://db.tt/UL717ftr
...and a little something in B&W.
https://db.tt/DB7Dnw4C

The black and white is well done. Who's your model. The
step-daughter from Hell?

She is, the then 13 year old daughter of an old girl friend.
That shot with the blowing hair was taken with her sitting in the back
of a moving car with the window down.

The step-daughter from Hell was once a very attractive young
girl/woman, but she has pretty much ruined those once quite good looks
with her mental health & substance abuse (now under sober & under
control) problems.

The Indian is a nice, sharp documentary-type photo. I am somewhat
distracted by the person standing directly above the "I" in "Indian"
who seems to have sagging and blurred breasts.

I guess in the experiment/trial, I over did that blurring, but those
guys had been cut off at the waist due to my sloppy in-camera
composition. So I figured some type of blur might take them out of it
completely, but I didn't execute it very well. The bike was the
intended point of interest, as I wasn't thinking character study for
that shot.

That's a photo that cries out for a human interest angle. Maybe a
Harley biker in full leathers and gang patches or a very old man who
looks like he may have coveted an Indian at an earlier point in his
life. Otherwise, it's just a sharp representation of a mechanical
thing.


--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 4/16/15 PDT 8:12 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-04-16 14:33:58 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 00:29:20 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:


You can discuss the non-HDR qualities of these two,

This time a 1915 Indian.
https://db.tt/UL717ftr
...and a little something in B&W.
https://db.tt/DB7Dnw4C

The black and white is well done. Who's your model. The
step-daughter from Hell?

She is, the then 13 year old daughter of an old girl friend.
That shot with the blowing hair was taken with her sitting in the back
of a moving car with the window down.

The step-daughter from Hell was once a very attractive young girl/woman,
but she has pretty much ruined those once quite good looks with her
mental health & substance abuse (now under sober & under control) problems.

Did you bump both highlights and shadow? I had fun playing with the
brightness on my Mac's screen: very different effects.

On 4/16/15 PDT 8:12 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-04-16 14:33:58 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 00:29:20 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-16 05:39:15 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:16:32 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-16 04:30:31 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 21:02:21 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-16 02:48:35 +0000, Savageduck said:
On 2015-04-16 02:37:30 +0000, RichA said:
On Wednesday, 15 April 2015 16:34:08 UTC-4, Savageduck wrote:
Here is a Lightroom adjusted original (top left) compared with
two
Exposure 7 renditions.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_98.jpg


"Go on an write me up for 125"
"Post my face wanted dead or alive"
"Take my license, all that jive."
"I..can't stand....HDR!!"

That's good to know since nothing in the processing of that single
image had anything to so with HDR. It was a single RAW image with
initial procssing in Lightroom 5, and just run through "Exposure
7" as
a Lightroom plug-in.

So now what do you think of "Exposure 7" which doesn't do HDR?
http://www.alienskin.com/exposure/

Here you go Rich. Another non-HDR image given the "Exposure 7"
treatment.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/_DNC0721-Edit-2-1-Exposure.jpg



Someone needs to check out hell. It may have frozen over. I agree
with RichA.

While the two may not have been a result of HDR, they both have that
over-processed look that is so often the mark of HDR gone wild.

It's sad, too. That pelican shot is well-composed and well done with
the darkening at the top and lower sides. Background is good.
Unfortunately, the final look has all the appeal of a pair of 1970s
golf pants.

I think it's fine if you do that as long as you don't get your
feelings hurt if some viewers think it makes their eyes hurt.

Fine. For now I am just playing around to see what can be done.
That said, you should consider meeting up with your new pal Rich,
perhaps you could have a conversation over a fine meal, or pleasant
beverage, to discuss the finer points of photographic equipment,
vendors, and post processing.

Ahhh, you *did* get your feelings hurt.

You frequently review someone else's photograph and express an itch to
process it your way. Differently. And you sometimes do. Your
approval of PeterN's abstracts and other efforts has not been
particularly effusive. You should understand that we all don't like
the same things and sometimes express this.

I think I've agreed with nospam and Popinjay on at least once occasion
about something. However, we aren't planning to meet for a coffee
klatch.

You can discuss the non-HDR qualities of these two,

This time a 1915 Indian.
https://db.tt/UL717ftr
...and a little something in B&W.
https://db.tt/DB7Dnw4C

The black and white is well done. Who's your model. The
step-daughter from Hell?

She is, the then 13 year old daughter of an old girl friend.
That shot with the blowing hair was taken with her sitting in the back
of a moving car with the window down.

The step-daughter from Hell was once a very attractive young girl/woman,
but she has pretty much ruined those once quite good looks with her
mental health & substance abuse (now under sober & under control) problems.

The Indian is a nice, sharp documentary-type photo. I am somewhat
distracted by the person standing directly above the "I" in "Indian"
who seems to have sagging and blurred breasts.

I guess in the experiment/trial, I over did that blurring, but those
guys had been cut off at the waist due to my sloppy in-camera
composition. So I figured some type of blur might take them out of it
completely, but I didn't execute it very well. The bike was the intended
point of interest, as I wasn't thinking character study for that shot.

That's a photo that cries out for a human interest angle. Maybe a
Harley biker in full leathers and gang patches or a very old man who
looks like he may have coveted an Indian at an earlier point in his
life. Otherwise, it's just a sharp representation of a mechanical
thing.

Or clone over those non-people with admiring hot chicks. Have you
lifted the bike image to put on a plainer b/g?

On 2015-04-16 16:15:00 +0000, John McWilliams said:

On 4/16/15 PDT 8:12 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-04-16 14:33:58 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 00:29:20 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

You can discuss the non-HDR qualities of these two,

This time a 1915 Indian.
https://db.tt/UL717ftr
...and a little something in B&W.
https://db.tt/DB7Dnw4C

The black and white is well done. Who's your model. The
step-daughter from Hell?

She is, the then 13 year old daughter of an old girl friend.
That shot with the blowing hair was taken with her sitting in the back
of a moving car with the window down.

The step-daughter from Hell was once a very attractive young girl/woman,
but she has pretty much ruined those once quite good looks with her
mental health & substance abuse (now under sober & under control) problems.

The Indian is a nice, sharp documentary-type photo. I am somewhat
distracted by the person standing directly above the "I" in "Indian"
who seems to have sagging and blurred breasts.

I guess in the experiment/trial, I over did that blurring, but those
guys had been cut off at the waist due to my sloppy in-camera
composition. So I figured some type of blur might take them out of it
completely, but I didn't execute it very well. The bike was the intended
point of interest, as I wasn't thinking character study for that shot.

That's a photo that cries out for a human interest angle. Maybe a
Harley biker in full leathers and gang patches or a very old man who
looks like he may have coveted an Indian at an earlier point in his
life. Otherwise, it's just a sharp representation of a mechanical
thing.

Or clone over those non-people with admiring hot chicks. Have you
lifted the bike image to put on a plainer b/g?

There have been times I have thought of doing something like that.
However, even with the various masking tool I have at my disposal that
sort of extraction, where there is a busy background, and stuff such as
wire spokes to deal with, doing that can be time consuming with minimal
return.

Sometimes it is less of a problem and an easy fix can be found. In the
case of this Sears there was a guy in the background with his head
appearing to be resting on the saddle. the healing tool fixed that.
https://db.tt/pVjxImoh
....and not much to remove for this Indian.
https://db.tt/pVjxImoh

--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 2015-04-16 16:11:18 +0000, John McWilliams said:

On 4/16/15 PDT 8:12 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-04-16 14:33:58 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 00:29:20 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:


You can discuss the non-HDR qualities of these two,

This time a 1915 Indian.
https://db.tt/UL717ftr
...and a little something in B&W.
https://db.tt/DB7Dnw4C

The black and white is well done. Who's your model. The
step-daughter from Hell?

She is, the then 13 year old daughter of an old girl friend.
That shot with the blowing hair was taken with her sitting in the back
of a moving car with the window down.

The step-daughter from Hell was once a very attractive young girl/woman,
but she has pretty much ruined those once quite good looks with her
mental health & substance abuse (now under sober & under control) problems.

Did you bump both highlights and shadow?

I processed the RAW color file first to get to a reasonably presentable
color image. That included adding a quite strong blur on the perimeter.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_101.jpg
Next I took it into the Exposure 7 Trial and made the B&W conversion by
selecting one ot their stock B&W film presets (Fuji NeoPan 100 Acros)
with a yellow filter. Then I added a vignette to finish.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_103.jpg

I had fun playing with the brightness on my Mac's screen: very
different effects.

With that image?


--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 2015-04-16 19:16:42 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2015-04-16 16:15:00 +0000, John McWilliams said:

On 4/16/15 PDT 8:12 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-04-16 14:33:58 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 00:29:20 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

You can discuss the non-HDR qualities of these two,

This time a 1915 Indian.
https://db.tt/UL717ftr
...and a little something in B&W.
https://db.tt/DB7Dnw4C

The black and white is well done. Who's your model. The
step-daughter from Hell?

She is, the then 13 year old daughter of an old girl friend.
That shot with the blowing hair was taken with her sitting in the back
of a moving car with the window down.

The step-daughter from Hell was once a very attractive young girl/woman,
but she has pretty much ruined those once quite good looks with her
mental health & substance abuse (now under sober & under control) problems.

The Indian is a nice, sharp documentary-type photo. I am somewhat
distracted by the person standing directly above the "I" in "Indian"
who seems to have sagging and blurred breasts.

I guess in the experiment/trial, I over did that blurring, but those
guys had been cut off at the waist due to my sloppy in-camera
composition. So I figured some type of blur might take them out of it
completely, but I didn't execute it very well. The bike was the intended
point of interest, as I wasn't thinking character study for that shot.

That's a photo that cries out for a human interest angle. Maybe a
Harley biker in full leathers and gang patches or a very old man who
looks like he may have coveted an Indian at an earlier point in his
life. Otherwise, it's just a sharp representation of a mechanical
thing.

Or clone over those non-people with admiring hot chicks. Have you
lifted the bike image to put on a plainer b/g?

There have been times I have thought of doing something like that.
However, even with the various masking tool I have at my disposal that
sort of extraction, where there is a busy background, and stuff such as
wire spokes to deal with, doing that can be time consuming with minimal
return.

Sometimes it is less of a problem and an easy fix can be found. In the
case of this Sears there was a guy in the background with his head
appearing to be resting on the saddle. the healing tool fixed that.
https://db.tt/pVjxImoh
...and not much to remove for this Indian.
https://db.tt/pVjxImoh

Oops! Here is the Sears.
https://db.tt/MT8y0JxW


--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 2015-04-16 19:34:33 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2015-04-16 16:11:18 +0000, John McWilliams said:
On 4/16/15 PDT 8:12 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-04-16 14:33:58 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 00:29:20 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:


You can discuss the non-HDR qualities of these two,

This time a 1915 Indian.
https://db.tt/UL717ftr
...and a little something in B&W.
https://db.tt/DB7Dnw4C

The black and white is well done. Who's your model. The
step-daughter from Hell?

She is, the then 13 year old daughter of an old girl friend.
That shot with the blowing hair was taken with her sitting in the back
of a moving car with the window down.

The step-daughter from Hell was once a very attractive young girl/woman,
but she has pretty much ruined those once quite good looks with her
mental health & substance abuse (now under sober & under control) problems.

Did you bump both highlights and shadow?

I processed the RAW color file first to get to a reasonably presentable
color image. That included adding a quite strong blur on the perimeter.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_101.jpg

Oops! Again. Here is the color.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_104.jpg

Next I took it into the Exposure 7 Trial and made the B&W conversion by
selecting one ot their stock B&W film presets (Fuji NeoPan 100 Acros)
with a yellow filter. Then I added a vignette to finish.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_103.jpg

I had fun playing with the brightness on my Mac's screen: very
different effects.

With that image?


--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 4/16/15 PDT 12:44 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-04-16 19:34:33 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2015-04-16 16:11:18 +0000, John McWilliams said:

Did you bump both highlights and shadow?

I processed the RAW color file first to get to a reasonably
presentable color image. That included adding a quite strong blur on
the perimeter.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_101.jpg


Oops! Again. Here is the color.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_104.jpg

Next I took it into the Exposure 7 Trial and made the B&W conversion
by selecting one ot their stock B&W film presets (Fuji NeoPan 100
Acros) with a yellow filter. Then I added a vignette to finish.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_103.jpg

I had fun playing with the brightness on my Mac's screen: very
different effects.

With that image?

Yes, the one after "Ooops"! Did you increase highlights and or shadow
controls? Or were they changed by the B+W conversion- or elsewhere?