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Old April 20th 15, 11:22 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Bill W
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On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 08:36:07 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-04-20 13:23:32 +0000, Bill W said:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 08:22:33 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

my use of DXO is the opposite of the way you use it. I only use DXO for
things I can;t do in PS. But, back to your issue: You can save as a PSD,
but that is nothing more than a propriatory form of tiff,. I found no
color shifts when I export to PS.


I had the color shift issue only when exporting from HDR Express. I'm
going to play around with it some more, but I didn't get a chance yet.


Just to clarify, when using HDR Express are you opening RAW or DNG
files directly without any prior adjustment or conversion?
...or are you making lens corrections, and other tweaks first?

With HDR from LR5 DNGs/NEFs I only make the lens correction upon
competion of the round trip from LR to HDR express.


Okay, I got back to this, and it's not what I thought at all. The
problem is that the HDR Express program displays the photos
differently than other programs. At first I thought that Windows
Picture Viewer was just a crappy viewer causing the issue, but PS
displays the same. It seems that the HDR Express display of the same
photo is brighter, and more saturated than in other programs. In other
words, this has nothing to do with the HDR conversion at all. You can
try this on your computer - just open any colorful photo in HDR
express, and make no changes. Then open the same photo in other
programs, and let me know what you see.

I already emailed their customer support. I'll let you know what they
say.

I did try a multiple exposure HDR, and I think the program works
great. The saturation thing isn't a deal killer for me, but I'd like
to hear what they have to say about it.

I also read through their 5 step guide for taking HDR photos. I never
thought to lock the focus, aperture, and white balance for all of the
bracketed exposures, but it definitely makes sense.
  #42  
Old April 21st 15, 01:14 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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On 2015-04-20 22:22:44 +0000, Bill W said:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 08:36:07 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-20 13:23:32 +0000, Bill W said:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 08:22:33 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

my use of DXO is the opposite of the way you use it. I only use DXO for
things I can;t do in PS. But, back to your issue: You can save as a PSD,
but that is nothing more than a propriatory form of tiff,. I found no
color shifts when I export to PS.

I had the color shift issue only when exporting from HDR Express. I'm
going to play around with it some more, but I didn't get a chance yet.


Just to clarify, when using HDR Express are you opening RAW or DNG
files directly without any prior adjustment or conversion?
...or are you making lens corrections, and other tweaks first?

With HDR from LR5 DNGs/NEFs I only make the lens correction upon
competion of the round trip from LR to HDR express.


Okay, I got back to this, and it's not what I thought at all. The
problem is that the HDR Express program displays the photos
differently than other programs. At first I thought that Windows
Picture Viewer was just a crappy viewer causing the issue, but PS
displays the same. It seems that the HDR Express display of the same
photo is brighter, and more saturated than in other programs. In other
words, this has nothing to do with the HDR conversion at all. You can
try this on your computer - just open any colorful photo in HDR
express, and make no changes. Then open the same photo in other
programs, and let me know what you see.


Interesting. I will make that check.

I already emailed their customer support. I'll let you know what they
say.

I did try a multiple exposure HDR, and I think the program works
great. The saturation thing isn't a deal killer for me, but I'd like
to hear what they have to say about it.

I also read through their 5 step guide for taking HDR photos. I never
thought to lock the focus, aperture, and white balance for all of the
bracketed exposures, but it definitely makes sense.


Yup! That should be a SOP for HDR just as locking AE for panoramas is
something that should be part of that capture process.

It can be fun to have something new to play with, once you get over its
individual peculiarities.


--
Regards,

Savageduck

  #43  
Old April 21st 15, 01:29 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Bill W
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Default More on Exposure 7

On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:14:00 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-04-20 22:22:44 +0000, Bill W said:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 08:36:07 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-20 13:23:32 +0000, Bill W said:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 08:22:33 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

my use of DXO is the opposite of the way you use it. I only use DXO for
things I can;t do in PS. But, back to your issue: You can save as a PSD,
but that is nothing more than a propriatory form of tiff,. I found no
color shifts when I export to PS.

I had the color shift issue only when exporting from HDR Express. I'm
going to play around with it some more, but I didn't get a chance yet.

Just to clarify, when using HDR Express are you opening RAW or DNG
files directly without any prior adjustment or conversion?
...or are you making lens corrections, and other tweaks first?

With HDR from LR5 DNGs/NEFs I only make the lens correction upon
competion of the round trip from LR to HDR express.


Okay, I got back to this, and it's not what I thought at all. The
problem is that the HDR Express program displays the photos
differently than other programs. At first I thought that Windows
Picture Viewer was just a crappy viewer causing the issue, but PS
displays the same. It seems that the HDR Express display of the same
photo is brighter, and more saturated than in other programs. In other
words, this has nothing to do with the HDR conversion at all. You can
try this on your computer - just open any colorful photo in HDR
express, and make no changes. Then open the same photo in other
programs, and let me know what you see.


Interesting. I will make that check.

I already emailed their customer support. I'll let you know what they
say.

I did try a multiple exposure HDR, and I think the program works
great. The saturation thing isn't a deal killer for me, but I'd like
to hear what they have to say about it.

I also read through their 5 step guide for taking HDR photos. I never
thought to lock the focus, aperture, and white balance for all of the
bracketed exposures, but it definitely makes sense.


Yup! That should be a SOP for HDR just as locking AE for panoramas is
something that should be part of that capture process.

It can be fun to have something new to play with, once you get over its
individual peculiarities.


It is good to learn new things. And it seems I always do when I head
out to shoot something specific. In most cases, "learned new things"
translates to, "I totally ****ed this up". Which is what I did with an
offbeat bike ride the other day. The stupidest of the stupid things
was forgetting to format an almost full card, which nicely correlated
with having set up the multiple card sequence wrong in the camera.
after about 10 good shots, it was full, and for some reason subsequent
shots wiped out the ones I had taken (instead of getting sent to the
second card). So there was nothing new on the card. I'll post some
photos later.
 




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