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  #21  
Old April 14th 15, 07:39 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Default More on Exposure 7

On 2015-04-14 18:24:38 +0000, Bill W said:

On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 09:41:19 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-14 16:28:50 +0000, Bill W said:Probably
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 08:13:40 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-14 14:12:22 +0000, Bill W said:
On 14 Apr 2015 05:57:23 GMT, Sandman wrote:As I have
said, not all
In article , Bill W wrote:

Bill W:
Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road,
inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new
software on that one?

Savageduck:
Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3.
https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng

Bill W:
For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too.

Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when
I saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major
way. Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and
after images:

http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN

They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the
adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG.
There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this
is not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and
error thing.

That's just one image, though, or what am I missing?

This is the correct link: http://imgur.com/a/UcAeJ

It seems HDR Express has acted on the only part of the image it could
extend the DR and get detail, that is the area around the blown
highlight of the setting Sun. The blown highlight remains blown and
clipped, as does the deep shadow where the data is clipped. The
processed image does reveal some detail in the shadows, but not as much
as you would get from processing a multi-exposure bracket.

A look at the histogram tells the story, the unprocessed on the left,
all channels still show clipping after processing:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_97.jpg

Actually, the dark areas at the bottom remain pretty dark by choice.
There is lots of detail available, but it's my opinion that lightening
those dark areas too much is what makes HDR so unpleasant in so many
cases. Also, it was single exposure HDR. This is the photo without any
adjustments to the HDR image:

http://i.imgur.com/7FW7vV2.jpg

You can see that no detail is actually lost in the dark ground. In
fact, after sleeping on it, that image doesn't look so bad after all,
and maybe my adjustments are too dark. It needs some tweaking of
course, but my original concern is still present - the most obvious
problem is that the blue sky turns grayish when saving the HDR output
to either TIFF or JPG. The HDR output itself does not show any
desaturation at all, at least on my monitor. The problem appears only
when I export that image to TIFF or JPG.

BTW, I just checked the preferences, and I am exporting to 16 bit
TIFF, and using Adobe RGB, which is what my camera is set to.

This is hardly a deal breaker, though. I like the program, and I'm
sure there's an easy work around for this.


As I have said, no two images are equal, and not all images or scenes
are good candidates for HDR treatment. So what I would do is take a
look at a few more of their tutorial videos and play around to
familiarize yourself with the various nuances of the program.


I am going to try some others, and I haven't looked at any of the
tutorials yet, so I'll get around to that, too. I'll probably grab the
camera and try some bracketed shots this week - handheld and tripod.
This might be more of an issue with single shot HDR.


Probably.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

  #22  
Old April 19th 15, 08:58 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_6_]
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Posts: 4,254
Default More on Exposure 7

On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said:

On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said:

On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial.

For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver
Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed.

Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as
if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks.
This really looks like grain, not noise.
https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1

What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it?

Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds
another tool to my tool box.
Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or
Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop.

Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road,
inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software
on that one?


Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3.
https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng

For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too.


Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I
saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way.
Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after
images:

http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN

They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the
adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG.
There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is
not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and
error thing.


Why did you save it as a tiff?


--
PeterN
  #23  
Old April 19th 15, 11:44 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Bill W
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Posts: 1,692
Default More on Exposure 7

On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:58:34 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said:

On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said:

On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial.

For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver
Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed.

Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as
if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks.
This really looks like grain, not noise.
https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1

What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it?

Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds
another tool to my tool box.
Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or
Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop.

Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road,
inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software
on that one?

Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3.
https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng

For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too.


Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I
saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way.
Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after
images:

http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN

They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the
adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG.
There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is
not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and
error thing.


Why did you save it as a tiff?


As opposed to what?
  #24  
Old April 20th 15, 12:50 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_6_]
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Posts: 4,254
Default More on Exposure 7

On 4/19/2015 6:44 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:58:34 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said:

On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said:

On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial.

For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver
Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed.

Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as
if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks.
This really looks like grain, not noise.
https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1

What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it?

Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds
another tool to my tool box.
Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or
Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop.

Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road,
inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software
on that one?

Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3.
https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng

For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too.

Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I
saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way.
Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after
images:

http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN

They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the
adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG.
There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is
not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and
error thing.


Why did you save it as a tiff?


As opposed to what?


Is tiff, or jpeg, your only options. I was thinking you were talking
about a PS plugin, or that there was an option to export to LR or PS.


--
PeterN
  #25  
Old April 20th 15, 02:27 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Bill W
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Posts: 1,692
Default More on Exposure 7

On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:50:58 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 4/19/2015 6:44 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:58:34 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said:

On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said:

On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial.

For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver
Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed.

Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as
if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks.
This really looks like grain, not noise.
https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1

What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it?

Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds
another tool to my tool box.
Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or
Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop.

Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road,
inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software
on that one?

Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3.
https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng

For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too.

Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I
saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way.
Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after
images:

http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN

They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the
adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG.
There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is
not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and
error thing.


Why did you save it as a tiff?


As opposed to what?


Is tiff, or jpeg, your only options. I was thinking you were talking
about a PS plugin, or that there was an option to export to LR or PS.


I do most everything in DXO Optics Pro (& Viewpoint) now. LR & PS are
just for things I can't do with DXO - cloning, spot removal, etc. I
export from DXO to TIFF so I have an uncompressed processed copy from
the original raw file.

I honestly don't do much post. I don't try to sell, or display
anything, except displaying some stuff on Flickr. But even with
Flickr, I do little post. I just point friends to the photos of car
shows, air shows, whatever. In fact, this link points to the first
time I bothered with cropping, leveling, and anything beyond basic
exposure before I put them on Flickr (warning: it's just a bunch of
cars):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/489821...7651795473686/



  #26  
Old April 20th 15, 04:03 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Posts: 16,487
Default More on Exposure 7

On 2015-04-20 01:27:39 +0000, Bill W said:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:50:58 -0400, PeterN
wrote
On 4/19/2015 6:44 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:58:34 -0400, PeterN
wrote:
On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial.

For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver
Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed.

Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as
if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks.
This really looks like grain, not noise.
https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1

What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it?

Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds
another tool to my tool box.
Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or
Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop.

Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road,
inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software
on that one?

Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3.
https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng

For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too.

Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I
saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way.
Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after
images:

http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN

They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the
adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG.
There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is
not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and
error thing.

Why did you save it as a tiff?

As opposed to what?


Is tiff, or jpeg, your only options. I was thinking you were talking
about a PS plugin, or that there was an option to export to LR or PS.


I do most everything in DXO Optics Pro (& Viewpoint) now. LR & PS are
just for things I can't do with DXO - cloning, spot removal, etc. I
export from DXO to TIFF so I have an uncompressed processed copy from
the original raw file.

I honestly don't do much post. I don't try to sell, or display
anything, except displaying some stuff on Flickr. But even with
Flickr, I do little post. I just point friends to the photos of car
shows, air shows, whatever. In fact, this link points to the first
time I bothered with cropping, leveling, and anything beyond basic
exposure before I put them on Flickr (warning: it's just a bunch of
cars):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/489821...7651795473686/


I see you had a poseur "Fabulous Hudson Hornet" in that set, here is a
real runner,
https://db.tt/SAFUrxQ2
https://db.tt/JKrPBH4H

--
Regards,

Savageduck

  #27  
Old April 20th 15, 04:23 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Bill W
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Posts: 1,692
Default More on Exposure 7

On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 20:03:14 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-04-20 01:27:39 +0000, Bill W said:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:50:58 -0400, PeterN
wrote
On 4/19/2015 6:44 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:58:34 -0400, PeterN
wrote:
On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial.

For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver
Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed.

Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as
if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks.
This really looks like grain, not noise.
https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1

What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it?

Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds
another tool to my tool box.
Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or
Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop.

Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road,
inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software
on that one?

Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3.
https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng

For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too.

Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I
saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way.
Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after
images:

http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN

They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the
adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG.
There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is
not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and
error thing.

Why did you save it as a tiff?

As opposed to what?

Is tiff, or jpeg, your only options. I was thinking you were talking
about a PS plugin, or that there was an option to export to LR or PS.


I do most everything in DXO Optics Pro (& Viewpoint) now. LR & PS are
just for things I can't do with DXO - cloning, spot removal, etc. I
export from DXO to TIFF so I have an uncompressed processed copy from
the original raw file.

I honestly don't do much post. I don't try to sell, or display
anything, except displaying some stuff on Flickr. But even with
Flickr, I do little post. I just point friends to the photos of car
shows, air shows, whatever. In fact, this link points to the first
time I bothered with cropping, leveling, and anything beyond basic
exposure before I put them on Flickr (warning: it's just a bunch of
cars):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/489821...7651795473686/


I see you had a poseur "Fabulous Hudson Hornet" in that set, here is a
real runner,
https://db.tt/SAFUrxQ2
https://db.tt/JKrPBH4H


What's the background on those? I'm not familiar with them.
  #28  
Old April 20th 15, 06:03 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Posts: 16,487
Default More on Exposure 7

On 2015-04-20 03:23:55 +0000, Bill W said:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 20:03:14 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-20 01:27:39 +0000, Bill W said:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:50:58 -0400, PeterN
wrote
On 4/19/2015 6:44 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:58:34 -0400, PeterN
wrote:
On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial.

For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver
Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed.

Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as
if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks.
This really looks like grain, not noise.
https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1

What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it?

Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds
another tool to my tool box.
Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or
Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop.

Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road,
inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software
on that one?

Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3.
https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng

For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too.

Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I
saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way.
Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after
images:

http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN

They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the
adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG.
There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is
not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and
error thing.

Why did you save it as a tiff?

As opposed to what?

Is tiff, or jpeg, your only options. I was thinking you were talking
about a PS plugin, or that there was an option to export to LR or PS.

I do most everything in DXO Optics Pro (& Viewpoint) now. LR & PS are
just for things I can't do with DXO - cloning, spot removal, etc. I
export from DXO to TIFF so I have an uncompressed processed copy from
the original raw file.

I honestly don't do much post. I don't try to sell, or display
anything, except displaying some stuff on Flickr. But even with
Flickr, I do little post. I just point friends to the photos of car
shows, air shows, whatever. In fact, this link points to the first
time I bothered with cropping, leveling, and anything beyond basic
exposure before I put them on Flickr (warning: it's just a bunch of
cars):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/489821...7651795473686/


I see you had a poseur "Fabulous Hudson Hornet" in that set, here is a
real runner,
https://db.tt/SAFUrxQ2
https://db.tt/JKrPBH4H


What's the background on those? I'm not familiar with them.


You just have to go back to 1948-1956.
http://www.legendsofnascar.com/hudson.htm
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/05/05/original-fabulous-hudson-hornet-nascar-racer-to-be-added-to-national-historic-vehicle-register/


--
Regards,

Savageduck

  #29  
Old April 20th 15, 07:12 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Bill W
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Posts: 1,692
Default More on Exposure 7

On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 22:03:06 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-04-20 03:23:55 +0000, Bill W said:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 20:03:14 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-20 01:27:39 +0000, Bill W said:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:50:58 -0400, PeterN
wrote
On 4/19/2015 6:44 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:58:34 -0400, PeterN
wrote:
On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial.

For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver
Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed.

Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as
if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks.
This really looks like grain, not noise.
https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1

What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it?

Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds
another tool to my tool box.
Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or
Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop.

Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road,
inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software
on that one?

Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3.
https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng

For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too.

Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I
saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way.
Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after
images:

http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN

They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the
adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG.
There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is
not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and
error thing.

Why did you save it as a tiff?

As opposed to what?

Is tiff, or jpeg, your only options. I was thinking you were talking
about a PS plugin, or that there was an option to export to LR or PS.

I do most everything in DXO Optics Pro (& Viewpoint) now. LR & PS are
just for things I can't do with DXO - cloning, spot removal, etc. I
export from DXO to TIFF so I have an uncompressed processed copy from
the original raw file.

I honestly don't do much post. I don't try to sell, or display
anything, except displaying some stuff on Flickr. But even with
Flickr, I do little post. I just point friends to the photos of car
shows, air shows, whatever. In fact, this link points to the first
time I bothered with cropping, leveling, and anything beyond basic
exposure before I put them on Flickr (warning: it's just a bunch of
cars):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/489821...7651795473686/

I see you had a poseur "Fabulous Hudson Hornet" in that set, here is a
real runner,
https://db.tt/SAFUrxQ2
https://db.tt/JKrPBH4H


What's the background on those? I'm not familiar with them.


You just have to go back to 1948-1956.
http://www.legendsofnascar.com/hudson.htm
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/05/05/original-fabulous-hudson-hornet-nascar-racer-to-be-added-to-national-historic-vehicle-register/


I see... What makes the one I ran across a poseur? I'm not saying it's
the real thing, but I'm not following what you're saying.
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On 2015-04-20 06:12:06 +0000, Bill W said:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 22:03:06 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-20 03:23:55 +0000, Bill W said:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 20:03:14 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-20 01:27:39 +0000, Bill W said:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:50:58 -0400, PeterN
wrote
On 4/19/2015 6:44 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:58:34 -0400, PeterN
wrote:
On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial.

For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver
Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed.

Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as
if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks.
This really looks like grain, not noise.
https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1

What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it?

Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds
another tool to my tool box.
Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or
Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop.

Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road,
inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software
on that one?

Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3.
https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng

For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too.

Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I
saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way.
Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after
images:

http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN

They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the
adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG.
There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is
not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and
error thing.

Why did you save it as a tiff?

As opposed to what?

Is tiff, or jpeg, your only options. I was thinking you were talking
about a PS plugin, or that there was an option to export to LR or PS.

I do most everything in DXO Optics Pro (& Viewpoint) now. LR & PS are
just for things I can't do with DXO - cloning, spot removal, etc. I
export from DXO to TIFF so I have an uncompressed processed copy from
the original raw file.

I honestly don't do much post. I don't try to sell, or display
anything, except displaying some stuff on Flickr. But even with
Flickr, I do little post. I just point friends to the photos of car
shows, air shows, whatever. In fact, this link points to the first
time I bothered with cropping, leveling, and anything beyond basic
exposure before I put them on Flickr (warning: it's just a bunch of
cars):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/489821...7651795473686/

I see you had a poseur "Fabulous Hudson Hornet" in that set, here is a
real runner,
https://db.tt/SAFUrxQ2
https://db.tt/JKrPBH4H

What's the background on those? I'm not familiar with them.


You just have to go back to 1948-1956.
http://www.legendsofnascar.com/hudson.htm
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/05/05/original-fabulous-hudson-hornet-nascar-racer-to-be-added-to-national-historic-vehicle-register/


I see... What makes the one I ran across a poseur? I'm not saying it's
the real thing, but I'm not following what you're saying.


Just verbosity on my part, they were just words leading to my two
shots. The Hudson on your collection reminded me that I too had shots
of a "Fabulous Hudson Hornet".

--
Regards,

Savageduck

 




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