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On 2015-04-14 18:24:38 +0000, Bill W said:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 09:41:19 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-14 16:28:50 +0000, Bill W said:Probably On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 08:13:40 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-14 14:12:22 +0000, Bill W said: On 14 Apr 2015 05:57:23 GMT, Sandman wrote:As I have said, not all In article , Bill W wrote: Bill W: Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road, inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software on that one? Savageduck: Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3. https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng Bill W: For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too. Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way. Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after images: http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG. There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and error thing. That's just one image, though, or what am I missing? This is the correct link: http://imgur.com/a/UcAeJ It seems HDR Express has acted on the only part of the image it could extend the DR and get detail, that is the area around the blown highlight of the setting Sun. The blown highlight remains blown and clipped, as does the deep shadow where the data is clipped. The processed image does reveal some detail in the shadows, but not as much as you would get from processing a multi-exposure bracket. A look at the histogram tells the story, the unprocessed on the left, all channels still show clipping after processing: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_97.jpg Actually, the dark areas at the bottom remain pretty dark by choice. There is lots of detail available, but it's my opinion that lightening those dark areas too much is what makes HDR so unpleasant in so many cases. Also, it was single exposure HDR. This is the photo without any adjustments to the HDR image: http://i.imgur.com/7FW7vV2.jpg You can see that no detail is actually lost in the dark ground. In fact, after sleeping on it, that image doesn't look so bad after all, and maybe my adjustments are too dark. It needs some tweaking of course, but my original concern is still present - the most obvious problem is that the blue sky turns grayish when saving the HDR output to either TIFF or JPG. The HDR output itself does not show any desaturation at all, at least on my monitor. The problem appears only when I export that image to TIFF or JPG. BTW, I just checked the preferences, and I am exporting to 16 bit TIFF, and using Adobe RGB, which is what my camera is set to. This is hardly a deal breaker, though. I like the program, and I'm sure there's an easy work around for this. As I have said, no two images are equal, and not all images or scenes are good candidates for HDR treatment. So what I would do is take a look at a few more of their tutorial videos and play around to familiarize yourself with the various nuances of the program. I am going to try some others, and I haven't looked at any of the tutorials yet, so I'll get around to that, too. I'll probably grab the camera and try some bracketed shots this week - handheld and tripod. This might be more of an issue with single shot HDR. Probably. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck wrote: Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial. For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed. Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks. This really looks like grain, not noise. https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1 What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it? Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds another tool to my tool box. Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop. Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road, inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software on that one? Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3. https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too. Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way. Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after images: http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG. There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and error thing. Why did you save it as a tiff? -- PeterN |
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:58:34 -0400, PeterN
wrote: On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck wrote: Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial. For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed. Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks. This really looks like grain, not noise. https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1 What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it? Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds another tool to my tool box. Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop. Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road, inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software on that one? Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3. https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too. Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way. Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after images: http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG. There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and error thing. Why did you save it as a tiff? As opposed to what? |
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On 4/19/2015 6:44 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:58:34 -0400, PeterN wrote: On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck wrote: Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial. For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed. Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks. This really looks like grain, not noise. https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1 What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it? Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds another tool to my tool box. Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop. Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road, inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software on that one? Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3. https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too. Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way. Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after images: http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG. There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and error thing. Why did you save it as a tiff? As opposed to what? Is tiff, or jpeg, your only options. I was thinking you were talking about a PS plugin, or that there was an option to export to LR or PS. -- PeterN |
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:50:58 -0400, PeterN
wrote: On 4/19/2015 6:44 PM, Bill W wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:58:34 -0400, PeterN wrote: On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck wrote: Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial. For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed. Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks. This really looks like grain, not noise. https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1 What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it? Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds another tool to my tool box. Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop. Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road, inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software on that one? Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3. https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too. Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way. Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after images: http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG. There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and error thing. Why did you save it as a tiff? As opposed to what? Is tiff, or jpeg, your only options. I was thinking you were talking about a PS plugin, or that there was an option to export to LR or PS. I do most everything in DXO Optics Pro (& Viewpoint) now. LR & PS are just for things I can't do with DXO - cloning, spot removal, etc. I export from DXO to TIFF so I have an uncompressed processed copy from the original raw file. I honestly don't do much post. I don't try to sell, or display anything, except displaying some stuff on Flickr. But even with Flickr, I do little post. I just point friends to the photos of car shows, air shows, whatever. In fact, this link points to the first time I bothered with cropping, leveling, and anything beyond basic exposure before I put them on Flickr (warning: it's just a bunch of cars): https://www.flickr.com/photos/489821...7651795473686/ |
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On 2015-04-20 01:27:39 +0000, Bill W said:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:50:58 -0400, PeterN wrote On 4/19/2015 6:44 PM, Bill W wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:58:34 -0400, PeterN wrote: On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck wrote: Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial. For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed. Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks. This really looks like grain, not noise. https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1 What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it? Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds another tool to my tool box. Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop. Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road, inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software on that one? Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3. https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too. Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way. Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after images: http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG. There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and error thing. Why did you save it as a tiff? As opposed to what? Is tiff, or jpeg, your only options. I was thinking you were talking about a PS plugin, or that there was an option to export to LR or PS. I do most everything in DXO Optics Pro (& Viewpoint) now. LR & PS are just for things I can't do with DXO - cloning, spot removal, etc. I export from DXO to TIFF so I have an uncompressed processed copy from the original raw file. I honestly don't do much post. I don't try to sell, or display anything, except displaying some stuff on Flickr. But even with Flickr, I do little post. I just point friends to the photos of car shows, air shows, whatever. In fact, this link points to the first time I bothered with cropping, leveling, and anything beyond basic exposure before I put them on Flickr (warning: it's just a bunch of cars): https://www.flickr.com/photos/489821...7651795473686/ I see you had a poseur "Fabulous Hudson Hornet" in that set, here is a real runner, https://db.tt/SAFUrxQ2 https://db.tt/JKrPBH4H -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 20:03:14 -0700, Savageduck
wrote: On 2015-04-20 01:27:39 +0000, Bill W said: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:50:58 -0400, PeterN wrote On 4/19/2015 6:44 PM, Bill W wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:58:34 -0400, PeterN wrote: On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck wrote: Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial. For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed. Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks. This really looks like grain, not noise. https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1 What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it? Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds another tool to my tool box. Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop. Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road, inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software on that one? Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3. https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too. Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way. Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after images: http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG. There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and error thing. Why did you save it as a tiff? As opposed to what? Is tiff, or jpeg, your only options. I was thinking you were talking about a PS plugin, or that there was an option to export to LR or PS. I do most everything in DXO Optics Pro (& Viewpoint) now. LR & PS are just for things I can't do with DXO - cloning, spot removal, etc. I export from DXO to TIFF so I have an uncompressed processed copy from the original raw file. I honestly don't do much post. I don't try to sell, or display anything, except displaying some stuff on Flickr. But even with Flickr, I do little post. I just point friends to the photos of car shows, air shows, whatever. In fact, this link points to the first time I bothered with cropping, leveling, and anything beyond basic exposure before I put them on Flickr (warning: it's just a bunch of cars): https://www.flickr.com/photos/489821...7651795473686/ I see you had a poseur "Fabulous Hudson Hornet" in that set, here is a real runner, https://db.tt/SAFUrxQ2 https://db.tt/JKrPBH4H What's the background on those? I'm not familiar with them. |
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On 2015-04-20 03:23:55 +0000, Bill W said:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 20:03:14 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-20 01:27:39 +0000, Bill W said: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:50:58 -0400, PeterN wrote On 4/19/2015 6:44 PM, Bill W wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:58:34 -0400, PeterN wrote: On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck wrote: Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial. For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed. Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks. This really looks like grain, not noise. https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1 What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it? Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds another tool to my tool box. Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop. Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road, inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software on that one? Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3. https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too. Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way. Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after images: http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG. There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and error thing. Why did you save it as a tiff? As opposed to what? Is tiff, or jpeg, your only options. I was thinking you were talking about a PS plugin, or that there was an option to export to LR or PS. I do most everything in DXO Optics Pro (& Viewpoint) now. LR & PS are just for things I can't do with DXO - cloning, spot removal, etc. I export from DXO to TIFF so I have an uncompressed processed copy from the original raw file. I honestly don't do much post. I don't try to sell, or display anything, except displaying some stuff on Flickr. But even with Flickr, I do little post. I just point friends to the photos of car shows, air shows, whatever. In fact, this link points to the first time I bothered with cropping, leveling, and anything beyond basic exposure before I put them on Flickr (warning: it's just a bunch of cars): https://www.flickr.com/photos/489821...7651795473686/ I see you had a poseur "Fabulous Hudson Hornet" in that set, here is a real runner, https://db.tt/SAFUrxQ2 https://db.tt/JKrPBH4H What's the background on those? I'm not familiar with them. You just have to go back to 1948-1956. http://www.legendsofnascar.com/hudson.htm http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/05/05/original-fabulous-hudson-hornet-nascar-racer-to-be-added-to-national-historic-vehicle-register/ -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 22:03:06 -0700, Savageduck
wrote: On 2015-04-20 03:23:55 +0000, Bill W said: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 20:03:14 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-20 01:27:39 +0000, Bill W said: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:50:58 -0400, PeterN wrote On 4/19/2015 6:44 PM, Bill W wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:58:34 -0400, PeterN wrote: On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck wrote: Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial. For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed. Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks. This really looks like grain, not noise. https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1 What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it? Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds another tool to my tool box. Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop. Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road, inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software on that one? Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3. https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too. Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way. Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after images: http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG. There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and error thing. Why did you save it as a tiff? As opposed to what? Is tiff, or jpeg, your only options. I was thinking you were talking about a PS plugin, or that there was an option to export to LR or PS. I do most everything in DXO Optics Pro (& Viewpoint) now. LR & PS are just for things I can't do with DXO - cloning, spot removal, etc. I export from DXO to TIFF so I have an uncompressed processed copy from the original raw file. I honestly don't do much post. I don't try to sell, or display anything, except displaying some stuff on Flickr. But even with Flickr, I do little post. I just point friends to the photos of car shows, air shows, whatever. In fact, this link points to the first time I bothered with cropping, leveling, and anything beyond basic exposure before I put them on Flickr (warning: it's just a bunch of cars): https://www.flickr.com/photos/489821...7651795473686/ I see you had a poseur "Fabulous Hudson Hornet" in that set, here is a real runner, https://db.tt/SAFUrxQ2 https://db.tt/JKrPBH4H What's the background on those? I'm not familiar with them. You just have to go back to 1948-1956. http://www.legendsofnascar.com/hudson.htm http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/05/05/original-fabulous-hudson-hornet-nascar-racer-to-be-added-to-national-historic-vehicle-register/ I see... What makes the one I ran across a poseur? I'm not saying it's the real thing, but I'm not following what you're saying. |
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More on Exposure 7
On 2015-04-20 06:12:06 +0000, Bill W said:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 22:03:06 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-20 03:23:55 +0000, Bill W said: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 20:03:14 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-20 01:27:39 +0000, Bill W said: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:50:58 -0400, PeterN wrote On 4/19/2015 6:44 PM, Bill W wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:58:34 -0400, PeterN wrote: On 4/14/2015 1:45 AM, Bill W wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:46:41 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-14 01:34:45 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:04:02 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-04-13 23:15:27 +0000, Bill W said: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:39:14 -0700, Savageduck wrote: Here is a B&W take of my Exposure 7 trial. For this rendition I wanted to see how it matched up against NIK Silver Efex Pro 2, and I am impressed. Here I used an Ilford B&W emulation + Vignette, and added 50% grain as if developed in Rodinal, and a few other tweaks. This really looks like grain, not noise. https://db.tt/NBuFaHS1 What was your final verdict on HDR Express? Did you buy it? Yes. I like the subtlety of the results, and I can afford it. It adds another tool to my tool box. Very different HDR results from those produced by NIK HDR Efex Pro or Photomatix, and even HDR Pro in Photoshop. Wasn't that you who posted the photo of a tree next to a road, inviting everyone to try some HDR on it? Did you try the new software on that one? Yup! Here is a rendition of that tree done with HDR Express 3. https://db.tt/NB1lG9Ng For ~$80, I'll probably get it, too. Okay, I got the lighting where I wanted it pretty quickly, but when I saved the image as a Tiff, it seemed to desaturate it in a major way. Did you notice anything like that? Here are the before and after images: http://imgur.com/5Vn88BN They are both JPG, but I worked with the raw file, and saved the adjusted image as a Tiff. The Tiff is desaturated just like the JPG. There is a saturation slider, and I'm sure I can fix this, but this is not WYSIWYG for some reason, and I would have to do the trial and error thing. Why did you save it as a tiff? As opposed to what? Is tiff, or jpeg, your only options. I was thinking you were talking about a PS plugin, or that there was an option to export to LR or PS. I do most everything in DXO Optics Pro (& Viewpoint) now. LR & PS are just for things I can't do with DXO - cloning, spot removal, etc. I export from DXO to TIFF so I have an uncompressed processed copy from the original raw file. I honestly don't do much post. I don't try to sell, or display anything, except displaying some stuff on Flickr. But even with Flickr, I do little post. I just point friends to the photos of car shows, air shows, whatever. In fact, this link points to the first time I bothered with cropping, leveling, and anything beyond basic exposure before I put them on Flickr (warning: it's just a bunch of cars): https://www.flickr.com/photos/489821...7651795473686/ I see you had a poseur "Fabulous Hudson Hornet" in that set, here is a real runner, https://db.tt/SAFUrxQ2 https://db.tt/JKrPBH4H What's the background on those? I'm not familiar with them. You just have to go back to 1948-1956. http://www.legendsofnascar.com/hudson.htm http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/05/05/original-fabulous-hudson-hornet-nascar-racer-to-be-added-to-national-historic-vehicle-register/ I see... What makes the one I ran across a poseur? I'm not saying it's the real thing, but I'm not following what you're saying. Just verbosity on my part, they were just words leading to my two shots. The Hudson on your collection reminded me that I too had shots of a "Fabulous Hudson Hornet". -- Regards, Savageduck |
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