CANON stomps Nikon .... Again !!!

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:35:36 +0000, Tony Spadaro wrote:

This from the guy who brags that he has already owned three DSLRS???
Dallas, you are saying that coming out with new models when they can is a
BAD way of doing things because you might lose a few dollars on re-sale.
This is amazingly dumb. If you didn't get your money's worth from the
purchase in the first place you probably shouldn't have bought it. You
claim to be a professional yet don't want to accept equipment costs as
part of the profession. Something rather weird, considering most
professions get a tax deduction for equipment (replacement, or
amortization - one or t'other)
I bought a new car in December 1993. Those *******S came out with a
new
model in August of 1994 -- Oh the agony! The Pain. The loss. They should
have left the 93 on the market at least another five years! And you know
what? We bought another new car in July of 2001 and THOSE *******S came
out with a 2002 model only three months later. It's criminal!!.
I don't see you complaining about new tv sets, DVD players, computers,
cars clothes or anything else. Perhaps the reason you complain is because
you were too anxious to be in with the cool crowd and had to keep buying
new every time a new model came out. I got news for you pal -- your Nikons
will be out of date soon, and if they don't put out new models too, the
company will end up losing customers even faster. Are you going to
complain about the D71 or whatever Nikon introduces next?
As to the fact that there are now several EF-S lenses--- this changes
NOTHING for D30 D60 and 10D owners. Not a single thing. Meanwhite you are
putzing about with what you claim is one system but it is a system where
sharing lenses between your D70 and your FM2 is pretty much an exercise in
pointlessness.

Tony, you really are becoming a boor. Take it out on your dog, if you have
one.

You don't think 5 DSLR's in 3 years is a bit too much? Why do they keep
bringing out new versions with such alarmingly short lifespans between
generations? I'll tell you why: the previous one's they have been fobbing
off on their customer base have all been substantially lacking in more
than one area.

I predict that we will probably see another new DSLR from them before
middle of next year. It will most likely replace the 300D.

BTW, I am not a professional photographer. I own a decorative concrete
business, although I did manage to put the D70 through my business as a
cap-ex.

Also, any Nikkor lens with an aperture ring will work on any FM2, a model
which I hasten to add, I have never owned. Seeing as you know so much
about me, I'm sure you knew that too. Didn't you?

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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:02:37 -0700, Skip M wrote:

He only called him self VDfan when Canon came out with the 11 megapixel
wonder, having gotten the name wrong. I actually exchanged emails with
Mr.
Youngblood, and Al Jacobs claims to have met him, so I'm reasonably sure
he's a nutter separate from the nutter we know as Annika1980.

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No, I knew he was not Bret, and he was SOOOOO much more annoying than
Bret, even at Bret's peak. He was the George Preddy of his time, but even
more so, because he even managed to get Canon shooters to dis him! On the
other hand, unlike Preddy, he was a "fan" of a good camera.

At the risk of causing a rash of congressional investigations, who is
George Preddy?

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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 04:02:13 +0000, Annika1980 wrote:

From: "Skip M"

Kinda doubt that I'm sorry or that the D100 is (marginally) better than
the D60? G

If you think the D100 is better than the Totally Digital D60, then I kinda
doubt anything you say. You been drinkin from Dallas' kool-aid?

Huh, I haven't even touched a D100 but I know for a fact that it is eons
ahead of the Dsuxty.

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In article pan.2004.08.22.14.29.51.628000@southafrican,
says...
Huh, I haven't even touched a D100 but I know for a fact that it is eons
ahead of the Dsuxty.

Again Dallas, these are the kinds of comments that get you in such
trouble.
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Rediculous. No one held a gun to your head and said "Buy or die". You seem
to be the only person on these forums who feels cheated by Canon because
they have new models coming out, but I doubt I will hear much complaining
when your D70 becomes "so last year". I'm typing this on an ancient windows
98 machine -- I don't feel cheated because there are newer machines on the
market, and most people I know (here and in real life) greet new models with
a certain amount of joy.
Perhaps i you had waited until dSLRS could do what you wanted instead of
having to have the latest and the greatest at every moment - you'd be happy.
But I might be wrong -- perhaps there was a gun to your head. Perhaps the
evil camera mongers are indeed forcing you to upgrade every year or so.
I thought you were raving over an FM2 a few months ago. But I could have
gotten it crossed up. You seem to be buying new cameras every week or so,
and instead of taking the time to learn how to use them, moving on the the
next big thing. Me and my EOS 3 have really gotten to know one another in
the three or four years I've had it. I'll miss it when I go digital, but
I'll bet the interface of the 20D is pretty close to it, and even closer to
my wife's Elan 7.

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"Dallas" wrote in message
newsan.2004.08.22.13.29.22.730000@southafrican.. .
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:35:36 +0000, Tony Spadaro wrote:

This from the guy who brags that he has already owned three DSLRS???
Dallas, you are saying that coming out with new models when they can is
a
BAD way of doing things because you might lose a few dollars on re-sale.
This is amazingly dumb. If you didn't get your money's worth from the
purchase in the first place you probably shouldn't have bought it. You
claim to be a professional yet don't want to accept equipment costs as
part of the profession. Something rather weird, considering most
professions get a tax deduction for equipment (replacement, or
amortization - one or t'other)
I bought a new car in December 1993. Those *******S came out with a
new
model in August of 1994 -- Oh the agony! The Pain. The loss. They should
have left the 93 on the market at least another five years! And you know
what? We bought another new car in July of 2001 and THOSE *******S came
out with a 2002 model only three months later. It's criminal!!.
I don't see you complaining about new tv sets, DVD players,
computers,
cars clothes or anything else. Perhaps the reason you complain is
because
you were too anxious to be in with the cool crowd and had to keep buying
new every time a new model came out. I got news for you pal -- your
Nikons
will be out of date soon, and if they don't put out new models too, the
company will end up losing customers even faster. Are you going to
complain about the D71 or whatever Nikon introduces next?
As to the fact that there are now several EF-S lenses--- this changes
NOTHING for D30 D60 and 10D owners. Not a single thing. Meanwhite you
are
putzing about with what you claim is one system but it is a system where
sharing lenses between your D70 and your FM2 is pretty much an exercise
in
pointlessness.

Tony, you really are becoming a boor. Take it out on your dog, if you have
one.

You don't think 5 DSLR's in 3 years is a bit too much? Why do they keep
bringing out new versions with such alarmingly short lifespans between
generations? I'll tell you why: the previous one's they have been fobbing
off on their customer base have all been substantially lacking in more
than one area.

I predict that we will probably see another new DSLR from them before
middle of next year. It will most likely replace the 300D.

BTW, I am not a professional photographer. I own a decorative concrete
business, although I did manage to put the D70 through my business as a
cap-ex.

Also, any Nikkor lens with an aperture ring will work on any FM2, a model
which I hasten to add, I have never owned. Seeing as you know so much
about me, I'm sure you knew that too. Didn't you?

--
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www.dallasdahms.com
"Is that a Nikon? Omigod! Can I touch it?"

From: columbotrek

I am not
impressed with Canon's techno cams for Techno's sake. A virtual arms
race for no real reason than a place to spend money. Every few months
some incremental improvement. Mostly to get some one to spend money
because they are just not happy with last months model any more. Sorry,
a 1.6 cropping factor is still not good enough to get me off my film
Nikons.

I happen to like the 1.6x cropping factor. I wish they'd make a 4x cropping
factor, for the shooting I like doing (birds at long range).

But I agree with the gist of your message.
The camera companies trickle the technology to us to boost sales. They have to
fill certain price points and distribute the features accordingly.

I'll bet green money that Canon could've made the 20D shoot 20 frames in RAW
mode instead of just 6, but then they'd lose 1D MKII sales.
As someone else surmised, I'm sure it is a software issue and it wouldn't
surprise me if someone hacks it and figures out a way to get more shots in the
buffer in RAW mode. That's what I'm betting on, anyway.

From: Dallas

If you think the D100 is better than the Totally Digital D60, then I kinda
doubt anything you say. You been drinkin from Dallas' kool-aid?

Huh, I haven't even touched a D100 but I know for a fact that it is eons
ahead of the Dsuxty.

In what way? The features are certainly similar, although the old outdated
discontinued Totally Digital D60 boasts higher resolution. So how does the
D100 surpass the D60? I don't claim to know a lot about Nikons, but it appears
to me that the D70 is better than the D100, no?

Dallas wrote:

At the risk of causing a rash of congressional investigations, who is
George Preddy?

Nobody. You haven't missed a thing.



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"Dallas" wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 04:02:13 +0000, Annika1980 wrote:

From: "Skip M"

Kinda doubt that I'm sorry or that the D100 is (marginally) better than
the D60? G

If you think the D100 is better than the Totally Digital D60, then I
kinda
doubt anything you say. You been drinkin from Dallas' kool-aid?

Huh, I haven't even touched a D100 but I know for a fact that it is eons
ahead of the Dsuxty.

Given the persuasive fact that you've never touched one...
....then you MUST be correct.

Inexperience is ALWAYS the best judge.

"Dallas" wrote in message
Tony, you really are becoming a boor. Take it out on your dog, if you have
one.

You don't think 5 DSLR's in 3 years is a bit too much?

Those DSLRs were marketed to three different groups.
1 series to pros.
30, 60 and 10 to mid-level
Digital Rebel to amateurs.

So no.
5 isn't too mush...

Why do they keep
bringing out new versions with such alarmingly short lifespans between
generations? I'll tell you why: the previous one's they have been fobbing
off on their customer base have all been substantially lacking in more
than one area.

I predict that we will probably see another new DSLR from them before
middle of next year. It will most likely replace the 300D.

BTW, I am not a professional photographer. I own a decorative concrete
business, although I did manage to put the D70 through my business as a
cap-ex.

Also, any Nikkor lens with an aperture ring will work on any FM2, a model
which I hasten to add, I have never owned. Seeing as you know so much
about me, I'm sure you knew that too. Didn't you?

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