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Will I regret keeping a good camera in my trunk?
In article , android wrote:
Bill W: When I buy a new camera body, the previous one ends up in a closet. It crossed my mind to put a walkaround lens on an earlier body, and throw it in the trunk of my car, so I always have a decent camera with me - one that is good in low light. But it gets hot around here, and the car could end up sitting in the sun in 110 degree heat. Does anyone know if this can cause a problem? I'm mainly talking about the possible volatilization of materials inside the camera or lens that could end up leaving a film on the sensor, or on the inside of the lens. Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that? I don't think there's a risk of any other heat damage. Savageduck: You are probably better off keeping it in a cheap soft bag (I have a number of those) which will provide a degree of insulation. Then rather than keeping it in the trunk, put that bag on the floor behind the passenger seat. That way it is reasonably afforded some protection from temperature extremes, and it is easily reachable from within the car. You can also cover it with a towel or small blanket which will provide an additional insullating layer charles: Potential problem here. In a warm humid climate with an air conditioned car, I grabbed the camera, jumped out of the car and watched the scene turn to fog. Andreas Skitsnack: I deal with that all of the time. This morning I took the grandsons to a Jacksonville Jaguars practice. No photos until the fog dissipated from the lens. Sandman: There are anti-fog cloths and solvents you can use on your lenses to prevent this. PeterN: When the condensation is caused by temperature differential, until there is an equalization between the ambient temperature and the glass, fog clothes and solvents will not be effective. Sandman: Works all the time for me, perhaps you haven't find any good ones? Andreas Skitsnack: I haven't tried them because it's a problem that clears itself up within a short time, but is the temperature and humidity differential from an air conditioned automobile and the outside in Sweden the same as it is Florida? Is this of any assistance? http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/ESOW.html Probably not to a general question. Today is a pretty sunny day though, but this summer has been a bit crap. We don't get Florida-type weather here, of course, but our summers can be unbearably hot as well -- Sandman |
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Will I regret keeping a good camera in my trunk?
In article , Andreas Skitsnack wrote:
PeterN: When the condensation is caused by temperature differential, until there is an equalization between the ambient temperature and the glass, fog clothes and solvents will not be effective. Sandman: Works all the time for me, perhaps you haven't find any good ones? Andreas Skitsnack: I haven't tried them because it's a problem that clears itself up within a short time, but is the temperature and humidity differential from an air conditioned automobile and the outside in Sweden the same as it is Florida? android: Is this of any assistance? http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/ESOW.html Not really. The question was rhetorical. Makes sense, since Peter doesn't live in Florida. -- Sandman |
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Will I regret keeping a good camera in my trunk?
On 8/6/2015 10:13 AM, android wrote:
In article , android wrote: In article , Sandman wrote: In article , android wrote: Bill W: When I buy a new camera body, the previous one ends up in a closet. It crossed my mind to put a walkaround lens on an earlier body, and throw it in the trunk of my car, so I always have a decent camera with me - one that is good in low light. But it gets hot around here, and the car could end up sitting in the sun in 110 degree heat. Does anyone know if this can cause a problem? I'm mainly talking about the possible volatilization of materials inside the camera or lens that could end up leaving a film on the sensor, or on the inside of the lens. Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that? I don't think there's a risk of any other heat damage. Savageduck: You are probably better off keeping it in a cheap soft bag (I have a number of those) which will provide a degree of insulation. Then rather than keeping it in the trunk, put that bag on the floor behind the passenger seat. That way it is reasonably afforded some protection from temperature extremes, and it is easily reachable from within the car. You can also cover it with a towel or small blanket which will provide an additional insullating layer charles: Potential problem here. In a warm humid climate with an air conditioned car, I grabbed the camera, jumped out of the car and watched the scene turn to fog. Andreas Skitsnack: I deal with that all of the time. This morning I took the grandsons to a Jacksonville Jaguars practice. No photos until the fog dissipated from the lens. Sandman: There are anti-fog cloths and solvents you can use on your lenses to prevent this. Do they work for fog acquired in D-Types mark II? I don't know what that is... http://tinyurl.com/oa6a3vt Opps! that one never got a mark II. Sorry. Same principle. A raw potato rubbed on the windshield works just as well. -- PeterN |
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Will I regret keeping a good camera in my trunk?
On 8/6/2015 10:22 AM, Sandman wrote:
In article , PeterN wrote: Bill W: When I buy a new camera body, the previous one ends up in a closet. It crossed my mind to put a walkaround lens on an earlier body, and throw it in the trunk of my car, so I always have a decent camera with me - one that is good in low light. But it gets hot around here, and the car could end up sitting in the sun in 110 degree heat. Does anyone know if this can cause a problem? I'm mainly talking about the possible volatilization of materials inside the camera or lens that could end up leaving a film on the sensor, or on the inside of the lens. Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that? I don't think there's a risk of any other heat damage. Savageduck: You are probably better off keeping it in a cheap soft bag (I have a number of those) which will provide a degree of insulation. Then rather than keeping it in the trunk, put that bag on the floor behind the passenger seat. That way it is reasonably afforded some protection from temperature extremes, and it is easily reachable from within the car. You can also cover it with a towel or small blanket which will provide an additional insullating layer charles: Potential problem here. In a warm humid climate with an air conditioned car, I grabbed the camera, jumped out of the car and watched the scene turn to fog. Andreas Skitsnack: I deal with that all of the time. This morning I took the grandsons to a Jacksonville Jaguars practice. No photos until the fog dissipated from the lens. Sandman: There are anti-fog cloths and solvents you can use on your lenses to prevent this. When the condensation is caused by temperature differential, until there is an equalization between the ambient temperature and the glass, fog clothes and solvents will not be effective. Works all the time for me, perhaps you haven't find any good ones? I was thinking post condensate. Didn't realize you were talking about a pre-treatment. I would be careful about what I rubbed on my lens. -- PeterN |
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Will I regret keeping a good camera in my trunk?
In article ,
Sandman wrote: In article , android wrote: Bill W: When I buy a new camera body, the previous one ends up in a closet. It crossed my mind to put a walkaround lens on an earlier body, and throw it in the trunk of my car, so I always have a decent camera with me - one that is good in low light. But it gets hot around here, and the car could end up sitting in the sun in 110 degree heat. Does anyone know if this can cause a problem? I'm mainly talking about the possible volatilization of materials inside the camera or lens that could end up leaving a film on the sensor, or on the inside of the lens. Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that? I don't think there's a risk of any other heat damage. Savageduck: You are probably better off keeping it in a cheap soft bag (I have a number of those) which will provide a degree of insulation. Then rather than keeping it in the trunk, put that bag on the floor behind the passenger seat. That way it is reasonably afforded some protection from temperature extremes, and it is easily reachable from within the car. You can also cover it with a towel or small blanket which will provide an additional insullating layer charles: Potential problem here. In a warm humid climate with an air conditioned car, I grabbed the camera, jumped out of the car and watched the scene turn to fog. Andreas Skitsnack: I deal with that all of the time. This morning I took the grandsons to a Jacksonville Jaguars practice. No photos until the fog dissipated from the lens. Sandman: There are anti-fog cloths and solvents you can use on your lenses to prevent this. PeterN: When the condensation is caused by temperature differential, until there is an equalization between the ambient temperature and the glass, fog clothes and solvents will not be effective. Sandman: Works all the time for me, perhaps you haven't find any good ones? Andreas Skitsnack: I haven't tried them because it's a problem that clears itself up within a short time, but is the temperature and humidity differential from an air conditioned automobile and the outside in Sweden the same as it is Florida? Is this of any assistance? http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/ESOW.html Probably not to a general question. Today is a pretty sunny day though, but this summer has been a bit crap. We don't get Florida-type weather here, of course, but our summers can be unbearably hot as well So you do get fungus on thou lenses frequently? -- teleportation kills |
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Will I regret keeping a good camera in my trunk?
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PeterN wrote: On 8/6/2015 10:13 AM, android wrote: In article , android wrote: In article , Sandman wrote: In article , android wrote: Bill W: When I buy a new camera body, the previous one ends up in a closet. It crossed my mind to put a walkaround lens on an earlier body, and throw it in the trunk of my car, so I always have a decent camera with me - one that is good in low light. But it gets hot around here, and the car could end up sitting in the sun in 110 degree heat. Does anyone know if this can cause a problem? I'm mainly talking about the possible volatilization of materials inside the camera or lens that could end up leaving a film on the sensor, or on the inside of the lens. Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that? I don't think there's a risk of any other heat damage. Savageduck: You are probably better off keeping it in a cheap soft bag (I have a number of those) which will provide a degree of insulation. Then rather than keeping it in the trunk, put that bag on the floor behind the passenger seat. That way it is reasonably afforded some protection from temperature extremes, and it is easily reachable from within the car. You can also cover it with a towel or small blanket which will provide an additional insullating layer charles: Potential problem here. In a warm humid climate with an air conditioned car, I grabbed the camera, jumped out of the car and watched the scene turn to fog. Andreas Skitsnack: I deal with that all of the time. This morning I took the grandsons to a Jacksonville Jaguars practice. No photos until the fog dissipated from the lens. Sandman: There are anti-fog cloths and solvents you can use on your lenses to prevent this. Do they work for fog acquired in D-Types mark II? I don't know what that is... http://tinyurl.com/oa6a3vt Opps! that one never got a mark II. Sorry. Same principle. A raw potato rubbed on the windshield works just as well. Good to know! -- teleportation kills |
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Will I regret keeping a good camera in my trunk?
On 8/6/2015 2:23 PM, android wrote:
In article , Sandman wrote: In article , android wrote: Bill W: When I buy a new camera body, the previous one ends up in a closet. It crossed my mind to put a walkaround lens on an earlier body, and throw it in the trunk of my car, so I always have a decent camera with me - one that is good in low light. But it gets hot around here, and the car could end up sitting in the sun in 110 degree heat. Does anyone know if this can cause a problem? I'm mainly talking about the possible volatilization of materials inside the camera or lens that could end up leaving a film on the sensor, or on the inside of the lens. Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that? I don't think there's a risk of any other heat damage. Savageduck: You are probably better off keeping it in a cheap soft bag (I have a number of those) which will provide a degree of insulation. Then rather than keeping it in the trunk, put that bag on the floor behind the passenger seat. That way it is reasonably afforded some protection from temperature extremes, and it is easily reachable from within the car. You can also cover it with a towel or small blanket which will provide an additional insullating layer charles: Potential problem here. In a warm humid climate with an air conditioned car, I grabbed the camera, jumped out of the car and watched the scene turn to fog. Andreas Skitsnack: I deal with that all of the time. This morning I took the grandsons to a Jacksonville Jaguars practice. No photos until the fog dissipated from the lens. Sandman: There are anti-fog cloths and solvents you can use on your lenses to prevent this. PeterN: When the condensation is caused by temperature differential, until there is an equalization between the ambient temperature and the glass, fog clothes and solvents will not be effective. Sandman: Works all the time for me, perhaps you haven't find any good ones? Andreas Skitsnack: I haven't tried them because it's a problem that clears itself up within a short time, but is the temperature and humidity differential from an air conditioned automobile and the outside in Sweden the same as it is Florida? Is this of any assistance? http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/ESOW.html Probably not to a general question. Today is a pretty sunny day though, but this summer has been a bit crap. We don't get Florida-type weather here, of course, but our summers can be unbearably hot as well So you do get fungus on thou lenses frequently? Florida is one of the worst States for growing mushrooms. -- PeterN |
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Will I regret keeping a good camera in my trunk?
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PeterN wrote: On 8/6/2015 2:23 PM, android wrote: In article , Sandman wrote: In article , android wrote: Bill W: When I buy a new camera body, the previous one ends up in a closet. It crossed my mind to put a walkaround lens on an earlier body, and throw it in the trunk of my car, so I always have a decent camera with me - one that is good in low light. But it gets hot around here, and the car could end up sitting in the sun in 110 degree heat. Does anyone know if this can cause a problem? I'm mainly talking about the possible volatilization of materials inside the camera or lens that could end up leaving a film on the sensor, or on the inside of the lens. Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that? I don't think there's a risk of any other heat damage. Savageduck: You are probably better off keeping it in a cheap soft bag (I have a number of those) which will provide a degree of insulation. Then rather than keeping it in the trunk, put that bag on the floor behind the passenger seat. That way it is reasonably afforded some protection from temperature extremes, and it is easily reachable from within the car. You can also cover it with a towel or small blanket which will provide an additional insullating layer charles: Potential problem here. In a warm humid climate with an air conditioned car, I grabbed the camera, jumped out of the car and watched the scene turn to fog. Andreas Skitsnack: I deal with that all of the time. This morning I took the grandsons to a Jacksonville Jaguars practice. No photos until the fog dissipated from the lens. Sandman: There are anti-fog cloths and solvents you can use on your lenses to prevent this. PeterN: When the condensation is caused by temperature differential, until there is an equalization between the ambient temperature and the glass, fog clothes and solvents will not be effective. Sandman: Works all the time for me, perhaps you haven't find any good ones? Andreas Skitsnack: I haven't tried them because it's a problem that clears itself up within a short time, but is the temperature and humidity differential from an air conditioned automobile and the outside in Sweden the same as it is Florida? Is this of any assistance? http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/ESOW.html Probably not to a general question. Today is a pretty sunny day though, but this summer has been a bit crap. We don't get Florida-type weather here, of course, but our summers can be unbearably hot as well So you do get fungus on thou lenses frequently? Florida is one of the worst States for growing mushrooms. Err... Nevermind!!! -- teleportation kills |
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Will I regret keeping a good camera in my trunk?
On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 11:32:46 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote: On 2015-08-04 00:05, Bill W wrote: When I buy a new camera body, the previous one ends up in a closet. It crossed my mind to put a walkaround lens on an earlier body, and throw it in the trunk of my car, so I always have a decent camera with me - one that is good in low light. But it gets hot around here, and the car could end up sitting in the sun in 110 degree heat. Does anyone know if this can cause a problem? I'm mainly talking about the possible volatilization of materials inside the camera or lens that could end up leaving a film on the sensor, or on the inside of the lens. Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that? I don't think there's a risk of any other heat damage. Running lubes and evaporation to be sure as a risk. Abuse to the batteries, likely. Electronics turned on 'hot' don't cool well - OTOH cameras, other than the sensor, don't heat up much. A hot sensor may show more noise esp. at higher ISO. You could mitigate all that by getting a cheap cooler and keeping everything in there. At least that would slow the warming up. OTOH, if it gets (eventually) hot in the cooler, it will also slow night time cooling. But if you dig it out often enough, then it should be cooler than outright leaving it in the trunk. Can't you bring it during the day? (at work I assume - many work places won't allow it of course - though they're blind to cell phones and their cameras...) There is also the problem of volatalising plasticisers from plastic material. It is these which form a visible film over time on the inside of automobile window glass. The problem isn't as bad as it used to be but I would be surprised if it had gone away entirely. Keeping a camera in a warm environment filled with plastics exposes every surface to the risk of a film forming. The highest risks will come from the plastics of which the camera is made. (Thinks: What about the all-plastic interior of my Pelican carry case?). Plasticiser films develop slowly and you may not even notice that it is happening. It would not surprise me if it could lead to a slow degradation of a camera and its lens. Maybe that's why I became dissatisfied with the performance of my D300? I will never know. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Will I regret keeping a good camera in my trunk?
On 6 Aug 2015 08:26:00 GMT, Sandman wrote:
In article , Andreas Skitsnack wrote: Savageduck: On 2015-08-04 04:05:04 +0000, Bill W said: Bill W: When I buy a new camera body, the previous one ends up in a closet. It crossed my mind to put a walkaround lens on an earlier body, and throw it in the trunk of my car, so I always have a decent camera with me - one that is good in low light. But it gets hot around here, and the car could end up sitting in the sun in 110 degree heat. Does anyone know if this can cause a problem? I'm mainly talking about the possible volatilization of materials inside the camera or lens that could end up leaving a film on the sensor, or on the inside of the lens. Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that? I don't think there's a risk of any other heat damage. Savageduck: You are probably better off keeping it in a cheap soft bag (I have a number of those) which will provide a degree of insulation. Then rather than keeping it in the trunk, put that bag on the floor behind the passenger seat. That way it is reasonably afforded some protection from temperature extremes, and it is easily reachable from within the car. You can also cover it with a towel or small blanket which will provide an additional insullating layer charles: Potential problem here. In a warm humid climate with an air conditioned car, I grabbed the camera, jumped out of the car and watched the scene turn to fog. I deal with that all of the time. This morning I took the grandsons to a Jacksonville Jaguars practice. No photos until the fog dissipated from the lens. There are anti-fog cloths and solvents you can use on your lenses to prevent this. I wasn't aware of anything good for that purpose. Years ago I got some stuff that was supposed to work on mirrors and eyeglasses, but never did very well. No way I would have put that on a camera lens. Maybe newer stuff is better, my current solution is to stay out of the tropics. |
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