How to get the wife to agree to a 2K printer?

On Mar 17, 11:25 pm, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
why would I need an Epson 2400 pigment printer? I have an
occasional need for large prints for wedding albums or wall prints, but
that is very occasional. My local camera shop has the 2400, and made
some spectacular prints from my last wedding.

Damn, you must get married a lot!

Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
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On Mar 16, 5:55 pm, Matt Ion wrote:
wrote:
Hmm... Don't you have a job? Do you need her to help pay for the
printer? I've never understood the idea of needing a spouse's
permission to buy something. If you want it and can afford it, just
let her know that you're going to buy it and go for it. I don't
really understand what basis or what right she would have to keep
you from buying it.

Spoken like someone who's never been married! ROFL!

Yup, you got me there (though I have been in a very-long-term
relationship). But I still can't imagine letting anyone control my
purchases that way. I don't think I could marry anyone who is that
controlling. And if I did, I certainly wouldn't stay married to her
very long.

Three words of advice for you married folks - separate bank
accounts

Again, this all assumes that the purchase in question doesn't put a
strain on the household's finances. If it does stretch the budget
then yeah, it's a decision that needs to be made together.

-Gniewko

Over here in the Silicon Valley area, you buy a home together and then
there's not enough money left for separate bank accounts

I don't think you should buy a big Epson printer if $2K sounds like a
lot of money. I've owned a few Epsons and the materials costs dwarf
the printer's purchase. You need to buy expensive ink, buy expensive
paper, and cover the costs of Epson's buggy drivers and firmware
wasting them both.

The professional line of Epsons come with rock-solid drivers.
In my opinion, the BEST way to save ink costs is to invest in a decent
colorometer, and establish a color calibrated work-flow. Once you do that,
you'll find that re-prints are nearly a thing of the past--because they look
EXACTLY how you expect them to look. What a relief that is. Truly freeing
and empowering...and the headaches go away.

--
Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
www.pbase.com/markuson

DeanB wrote:
Ok, I want an Epson 4800, its $1815 plus shipping. Its 100lb, and 3
feet wide. Totally ridiculous.

How on earth can I possibly get the wife to let me have it? I already
told her I want real solid paper prints of the kids, that will last a
lifetime and longer, not like our current crappy fading prints, and
not all stored on DVDs and hard drives that are easily lost.

What else can help swing this?


If you are not above a little "Creative Fiction", tell her that a fellow
at your workplace (or other organization with a huge membership)
recently died and his widow must sell all of his hobby stuff prior to
moving to a much smaller residence.
You offered her $300 for the printer and she accepted it.
Wifey will admire your bargaining skills for getting an $1815 printer
for a paltry $300, and you end up with an Epson 4800. Win-Win.

DeanB wrote:
On Mar 17, 10:25 pm, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
Annika1980 wrote:
Far be it for me to discourage anyone from getting the latest and
greatest equipment. I'd like to have the 4800 myself (I have the
2200).
However, Scott makes some good points. Think how many prints you
can get made for $2K. I'm not talkin about the cheapo Walmart crap
either. I'm talking about honest-to-goodness professional quality
photos from a machine like a Fuji Frontier. You can get 8x10s for a
couple of bucks.
Think you'll print 1000 8x10's on your Epson printer?
If you do it'll cost you an extra $500 or so just for ink and paper.
So now you're up to $2500. How many pics can you get printed for
$2500?

The point is that buying a top quality printer these days is rarely
economically feasible compared to having prints made professionally.
So don't even let that enter your decision making process.

My Epson 2200 sits idle collecting dust 99% of the time. And about
the time I do get a hankering to do some prints, I'm always either
out of paper or one of the 7 ink colors. But like you said, Dean,
it is nice to be able to print something when you want it. The
color issue is less of a factor these days, especially if you use a
calibrated monitor and the same commercial printer for your prints.

I was tempted to upgrade my Pixma 950 to the 13 inch wide 9900, but I
had second thoughts because I asked myself what need did I have for a
number of 13x19 prints? All I do now with my printer is print off
borderless 8.5x11s by the dozens, just to look at the wonderfullness
of
my camera. I give away some of them if they are of someone else. So
I'm thinking, why would I need an Epson 2400 pigment printer? I have
an occasional need for large prints for wedding albums or wall
prints, but that is very occasional. My local camera shop has the
2400, and made
some spectacular prints from my last wedding. They are pretty
expensive, but not as much as the printer and inks.

Just ask yourself how often you would need prints from a 4800, and
for what.

Gary Eickmeier- Hide quoted text -

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Whats the big deal about printing smaller prints, even on a 4800? It
has large ink capacities, which makes even smaller prints cheaper. No-
one is forcing you to print maximum size.

There's a limit to how _small_ it can print. Can't go smaller than 8
inches wide IIRC.

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--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Bob Williams wrote:
DeanB wrote:
Ok, I want an Epson 4800, its $1815 plus shipping. Its 100lb, and 3
feet wide. Totally ridiculous.

How on earth can I possibly get the wife to let me have it? I already
told her I want real solid paper prints of the kids, that will last a
lifetime and longer, not like our current crappy fading prints, and
not all stored on DVDs and hard drives that are easily lost.

What else can help swing this?


If you are not above a little "Creative Fiction", tell her that a
fellow at your workplace (or other organization with a huge
membership) recently died and his widow must sell all of his hobby
stuff prior to moving to a much smaller residence.
You offered her $300 for the printer and she accepted it.
Wifey will admire your bargaining skills for getting an $1815 printer
for a paltry $300, and you end up with an Epson 4800. Win-Win.

There is another option that nobody has mentioned, so I figure it's
worth bringing up just for completeness
http://www.heartwoodwhips.com/gallery.htm.

Can work either way. If using it on _her_ doesn't work, hand her the
whip, drop your pants, and bend over.

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--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

On Mar 18, 12:26 am, "J. Clarke" wrote:
DeanB wrote:
On Mar 17, 10:25 pm, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
Annika1980 wrote:
Far be it for me to discourage anyone from getting the latest and
greatest equipment. I'd like to have the 4800 myself (I have the
2200).
However, Scott makes some good points. Think how many prints you
can get made for $2K. I'm not talkin about the cheapo Walmart crap
either. I'm talking about honest-to-goodness professional quality
photos from a machine like a Fuji Frontier. You can get 8x10s for a
couple of bucks.
Think you'll print 1000 8x10's on your Epson printer?
If you do it'll cost you an extra $500 or so just for ink and paper.
So now you're up to $2500. How many pics can you get printed for
$2500?

The point is that buying a top quality printer these days is rarely
economically feasible compared to having prints made professionally.
So don't even let that enter your decision making process.

My Epson 2200 sits idle collecting dust 99% of the time. And about
the time I do get a hankering to do some prints, I'm always either
out of paper or one of the 7 ink colors. But like you said, Dean,
it is nice to be able to print something when you want it. The
color issue is less of a factor these days, especially if you use a
calibrated monitor and the same commercial printer for your prints.

I was tempted to upgrade my Pixma 950 to the 13 inch wide 9900, but I
had second thoughts because I asked myself what need did I have for a
number of 13x19 prints? All I do now with my printer is print off
borderless 8.5x11s by the dozens, just to look at the wonderfullness
of
my camera. I give away some of them if they are of someone else. So
I'm thinking, why would I need an Epson 2400 pigment printer? I have
an occasional need for large prints for wedding albums or wall
prints, but that is very occasional. My local camera shop has the
2400, and made
some spectacular prints from my last wedding. They are pretty
expensive, but not as much as the printer and inks.

Just ask yourself how often you would need prints from a 4800, and
for what.

Gary Eickmeier- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Whats the big deal about printing smaller prints, even on a 4800? It
has large ink capacities, which makes even smaller prints cheaper. No-
one is forcing you to print maximum size.

There's a limit to how _small_ it can print. Can't go smaller than 8
inches wide IIRC.

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, but you can always print 2 or 4 to a page if you want smaller.

DeanB wrote:

Whats the big deal about printing smaller prints, even on a 4800? It
has large ink capacities, which makes even smaller prints cheaper. No-
one is forcing you to print maximum size.

Smaller prints cheaper? For $2000? If I plan on making mostly (almost
exclusively) 8x11 or smaller, then I would not want to get a 13 or 17
inch wide printer. I also suspect that those inks are more expensive and
harder to find at your local big box store. Got to consider all these
factors.

I would love to have a large format pigment ink printer, but I will have
to condider the costs at length.

Gary Eickmeier

Bob Williams wrote:

DeanB wrote:
Ok, I want an Epson 4800, its $1815 plus shipping. Its 100lb, and 3
feet wide. Totally ridiculous.

How on earth can I possibly get the wife to let me have it? I already
told her I want real solid paper prints of the kids, that will last a
lifetime and longer, not like our current crappy fading prints, and
not all stored on DVDs and hard drives that are easily lost.

What else can help swing this?

If you are not above a little "Creative Fiction", tell her that a fellow
at your workplace (or other organization with a huge membership)
recently died and his widow must sell all of his hobby stuff prior to
moving to a much smaller residence.
You offered her $300 for the printer and she accepted it.
Wifey will admire your bargaining skills for getting an $1815 printer
for a paltry $300, and you end up with an Epson 4800. Win-Win.

Honesty is the best policy. If you lie, then the spouse can lie,
and then there is no trust.

Roger
(Happily married 31 years)

Bob Williams wrote:
DeanB wrote:
Ok, I want an Epson 4800, its $1815 plus shipping. Its 100lb, and 3
feet wide. Totally ridiculous.

How on earth can I possibly get the wife to let me have it? I already
told her I want real solid paper prints of the kids, that will last a
lifetime and longer, not like our current crappy fading prints, and
not all stored on DVDs and hard drives that are easily lost.

What else can help swing this?


If you are not above a little "Creative Fiction", tell her that a
fellow at your workplace (or other organization with a huge
membership) recently died and his widow must sell all of his hobby
stuff prior to moving to a much smaller residence.
You offered her $300 for the printer and she accepted it.
Wifey will admire your bargaining skills for getting an $1815 printer
for a paltry $300, and you end up with an Epson 4800. Win-Win.

Worst advice so far.

If you have to lie to your spouse to keept the peace, then you really don't
have much of a marriage. And what would be the point? I'd rather be single
than live like that.

--
Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
www.pbase.com/markuson

In article , Mark²
wrote:

Bob Williams wrote:
DeanB wrote:
Ok, I want an Epson 4800, its $1815 plus shipping. Its 100lb, and 3
feet wide. Totally ridiculous.

How on earth can I possibly get the wife to let me have it? I already
told her I want real solid paper prints of the kids, that will last a
lifetime and longer, not like our current crappy fading prints, and
not all stored on DVDs and hard drives that are easily lost.

What else can help swing this?


If you are not above a little "Creative Fiction", tell her that a
fellow at your workplace (or other organization with a huge
membership) recently died and his widow must sell all of his hobby
stuff prior to moving to a much smaller residence.
You offered her $300 for the printer and she accepted it.
Wifey will admire your bargaining skills for getting an $1815 printer
for a paltry $300, and you end up with an Epson 4800. Win-Win.

Worst advice so far.

If you have to lie to your spouse to keept the peace, then you really don't
have much of a marriage. And what would be the point? I'd rather be single
than live like that.

Is she hawt?