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Old July 5th 16, 09:39 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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So with iOS 10 there will be a whole new of metadata mining on your photos. It
will index all your photos and find generic items like cats, dogs, chairs,
food, one person, two persons etc etc, and you'll be able to search for them as
well.

Apple isn't first to this party, both Flickr and Google does this of course,
but the difference is how. All others use their vast server farms to index
millions of photos from all their users, while Apple not only doesn't do that -
they can't. All your photos and all the metadata about your photos is encrypted
in iCloud, so there is no way Apple can see your photos, let alone index them.

No, all indexing takes place on the device, your iPhone and iPad respectively.
In the future the index will (probably, hopefully) be synced between them
instead of each having to do the entire work itself, but that syncing will also
be encrypted.

Say what you will about Apple and supposed "walled gardens", but they do take
your privacy really seriously.

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Old July 5th 16, 10:03 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Apple Privacy and Photos

In article ,
Sandman wrote:

So with iOS 10 there will be a whole new of metadata mining on your photos.
It
will index all your photos and find generic items like cats, dogs, chairs,
food, one person, two persons etc etc, and you'll be able to search for them
as
well.


there is no data mining of photos. scene recognition is done on the
device, intentionally.

Apple isn't first to this party, both Flickr and Google does this of course,
but the difference is how. All others use their vast server farms to index
millions of photos from all their users, while Apple not only doesn't do that
-
they can't. All your photos and all the metadata about your photos is
encrypted
in iCloud, so there is no way Apple can see your photos, let alone index them.


icloud may be encrypted but apple has the keys, so they can *easily*
see anything and everything anyone uploads if they have reason to,
namely a search warrant.

however, that doesn't matter since the photo analysis is done on the
device. apple never sees the photos unless the user uploads them.

No, all indexing takes place on the device, your iPhone and iPad
respectively.


which means there's no data mining.

In the future the index will (probably, hopefully) be synced between them
instead of each having to do the entire work itself, but that syncing will
also
be encrypted.


syncing between devices is coming.

Say what you will about Apple and supposed "walled gardens", but they do take
your privacy really seriously.


that part you got right.
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Old July 5th 16, 10:24 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Default Apple Privacy and Photos

On 2016-07-05 20:39:34 +0000, Sandman said:

So with iOS 10 there will be a whole new of metadata mining on your photos. It
will index all your photos and find generic items like cats, dogs, chairs,
food, one person, two persons etc etc, and you'll be able to search for them as
well.


I don't play the Apple Photos or Photo Streaming game with iOS 9, I m
not about to play it with iOS 10.

Apple isn't first to this party, both Flickr and Google does this of course,
but the difference is how. All others use their vast server farms to index
millions of photos from all their users, while Apple not only doesn't do that -
they can't. All your photos and all the metadata about your photos is encrypted
in iCloud, so there is no way Apple can see your photos, let alone index them.

No, all indexing takes place on the device, your iPhone and iPad respectively.
In the future the index will (probably, hopefully) be synced between them
instead of each having to do the entire work itself, but that syncing will also
be encrypted.

Say what you will about Apple and supposed "walled gardens", but they do take
your privacy really seriously.


That is all very good, but I don't need those particular features.


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Savageduck

 




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