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Finally a decent travel zoom from Fuji
https://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses/fujinon/xf-16-
80mm-f4-r-ois-wr/review/ Because 18-55 or 16-55 is not enough range and 18-135 is not wide enough at the wide end. Not sure why it took Fuji such a long time to come out with a 16-80 zoom lens (=24-120 FF equiv.). Sony and Nikon have had such 16-80 zooms for a long time for their APS-C range. The new lens seems to be very usable, also given its claimed six stops of stabilisation. -- Alfred Molon Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at https://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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On 21/07/2019 08:58, Alfred Molon wrote:
https://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses/fujinon/xf-16- 80mm-f4-r-ois-wr/review/ Same length as the 18-55, 80 grams heavier. The closer focussing is nice. The 18-55 is a useful lens IMHO. But I'd sat this plus an X-T30 body would be a pretty good way to start for anyone tempted by Fuji X. |
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Finally a decent travel zoom from Fuji
On Jul 21, 2019, newshound wrote
(in articlecsSdnctm_bjz5anAnZ2dnUU78dnNnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk): On 21/07/2019 08:58, Alfred Molon wrote: https://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses/fujinon/xf-16- 80mm-f4-r-ois-wr/review/ Same length as the 18-55, 80 grams heavier. The closer focussing is nice. The 18-55 is a useful lens IMHO. But I'd sat this plus an X-T30 body would be a pretty good way to start for anyone tempted by Fuji X. The 16-80mm is a lens I might consider, and it is with the 18-55mm a good choice for a Fujifilm starter. For now it is tough to fault the 18-55mm as it still gives you F/2.8 at 18mm, and f/4 at 55mm. I use the 18-55mm on my smaller X-E3 when I don’t have one of the primes, 23mm f/2.0, or 35mm f/1.4 on that body. However, when it comes to quality glass the 16-55mm f/2.8 is outstanding, and is my daily working lens on my X-T3. I have used it on the X-E3, but it is big and awkward on the small body. The only thing that could improve it would be to have a version with OIS. For now it is, as some have claimed, a bag of primes. I even find that my 16mm f/1.4 is hardly used since I bought the 16-55 (I bought mine used from B&H for $748). Currently on my Fujinon wish list are the 80mm f/2.8, and the 50-140mm f/2.8. I will wait on the 16-80mm. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Finally a decent travel zoom from Fuji
On Jul 21, 2019, Savageduck wrote
(in iganews.com): On Jul 21, 2019, newshound wrote (in articlecsSdnctm_bjz5anAnZ2dnUU78dnNnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk): On 21/07/2019 08:58, Alfred Molon wrote: https://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses/fujinon/xf-16- 80mm-f4-r-ois-wr/review/ Same length as the 18-55, 80 grams heavier. The closer focussing is nice. The 18-55 is a useful lens IMHO. But I'd sat this plus an X-T30 body would be a pretty good way to start for anyone tempted by Fuji X. The 16-80mm is a lens I might consider, and it is with the 18-55mm a good choice for a Fujifilm starter. For now it is tough to fault the 18-55mm as it still gives you F/2.8 at 18mm, and f/4 at 55mm. I use the 18-55mm on my smaller X-E3 when I don’t have one of the primes, 23mm f/2.0, or 35mm f/1.4 on that body. However, when it comes to quality glass the 16-55mm f/2.8 is outstanding, and is my daily working lens on my X-T3. I have used it on the X-E3, but it is big and awkward on the small body. The only thing that could improve it would be to have a version with OIS. For now it is, as some have claimed, a bag of primes. I even find that my 16mm f/1.4 is hardly used since I bought the 16-55 (I bought mine used from B&H for $748). Currently on my Fujinon wish list are the 80mm f/2.8, and the 50-140mm f/2.8. I will wait on the 16-80mm. Since we are talking 16-80mm this might be interesting. This batch was shot with the 16-80mm on an X-T3. https://fujifilm-x.com/en-us/stories...mmf4-r-ois-wr- impressions/ -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On Jul 21, 2019, Savageduck wrote
(in iganews.com): On Jul 21, 2019, Savageduck wrote (in iganews.com): On Jul 21, 2019, newshound wrote (in articlecsSdnctm_bjz5anAnZ2dnUU78dnNnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk): On 21/07/2019 08:58, Alfred Molon wrote: https://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses/fujinon/xf-16- 80mm-f4-r-ois-wr/review/ Same length as the 18-55, 80 grams heavier. The closer focussing is nice. The 18-55 is a useful lens IMHO. But I'd sat this plus an X-T30 body would be a pretty good way to start for anyone tempted by Fuji X. The 16-80mm is a lens I might consider, and it is with the 18-55mm a good choice for a Fujifilm starter. For now it is tough to fault the 18-55mm as it still gives you F/2.8 at 18mm, and f/4 at 55mm. I use the 18-55mm on my smaller X-E3 when I don’t have one of the primes, 23mm f/2.0, or 35mm f/1.4 on that body. However, when it comes to quality glass the 16-55mm f/2.8 is outstanding, and is my daily working lens on my X-T3. I have used it on the X-E3, but it is big and awkward on the small body. The only thing that could improve it would be to have a version with OIS. For now it is, as some have claimed, a bag of primes. I even find that my 16mm f/1.4 is hardly used since I bought the 16-55 (I bought mine used from B&H for $748). Currently on my Fujinon wish list are the 80mm f/2.8, and the 50-140mm f/2.8. I will wait on the 16-80mm. Since we are talking 16-80mm this might be interesting. This batch was shot with the 16-80mm on an X-T3. https://fujifilm-x.com/en-us/stories/fujinon-xf16-80mmf4-r-ois-wr-impressions/ ....and https://jonasraskphotography.com/201...-f-4-r-ois-wr- first-look-preview/ -- Regards, Savageduck |
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In article .com, Savageduck
wrote: On Jul 21, 2019, Savageduck wrote (in iganews.com): Savageduck: On Jul 21, 2019, Savageduck wrote (in iganews.com): On Jul 21, 2019, newshound wrote (in articlecsSdnctm_bjz5anAnZ2dnUU78dnNnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk): Alfred Molon: https://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses/fujinon/xf-16- 80mm-f4-r-ois-wr/review/ newshound: Same length as the 18-55, 80 grams heavier. The closer focussing is nice. The 18-55 is a useful lens IMHO. But I'd sat this plus an X-T30 body would be a pretty good way to start for anyone tempted by Fuji X. Savageduck: The 16-80mm is a lens I might consider, and it is with the 18-55mm a good choice for a Fujifilm starter. For now it is tough to fault the 18-55mm as it still gives you F/2.8 at 18mm, and f/4 at 55mm. I use the 18-55mm on my smaller X-E3 when I don’t have one of the primes, 23mm f/2.0, or 35mm f/1.4 on that body. However, when it comes to quality glass the 16-55mm f/2.8 is outstanding, and is my daily working lens on my X-T3. I have used it on the X-E3, but it is big and awkward on the small body. The only thing that could improve it would be to have a version with OIS. For now it is, as some have claimed, a bag of primes. I even find that my 16mm f/1.4 is hardly used since I bought the 16-55 (I bought mine used from B&H for $748). Currently on my Fujinon wish list are the 80mm f/2.8, and the 50-140mm f/2.8. I will wait on the 16-80mm. Since we are talking 16-80mm this might be interesting. This batch was shot with the 16-80mm on an X-T3. https://fujifilm-x.com/en-us/stories...mmf4-r-ois-wr- impressions ...and https://jonasraskphotography.com/201...-f-4-r-ois-wr- first-look-preview I've always wondered why they make these lenses så slow, is it just to make them compact? This lens is equivalent to a 24-120mm/f8, and compared to the 24- 120/f4 for Nikon, it's tiny. But a 24-120mm/f4 equivalent (16-80mm/f2) shouldn't have to be as big, so why make it so slow? -- Sandman |
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Finally a decent travel zoom from Fuji
On 21/07/2019 16:09, Savageduck wrote:
On Jul 21, 2019, newshound wrote (in articlecsSdnctm_bjz5anAnZ2dnUU78dnNnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk): On 21/07/2019 08:58, Alfred Molon wrote: https://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses/fujinon/xf-16- 80mm-f4-r-ois-wr/review/ Same length as the 18-55, 80 grams heavier. The closer focussing is nice. The 18-55 is a useful lens IMHO. But I'd sat this plus an X-T30 body would be a pretty good way to start for anyone tempted by Fuji X. The 16-80mm is a lens I might consider, and it is with the 18-55mm a good choice for a Fujifilm starter. For now it is tough to fault the 18-55mm as it still gives you F/2.8 at 18mm, and f/4 at 55mm. I use the 18-55mm on my smaller X-E3 when I don’t have one of the primes, 23mm f/2.0, or 35mm f/1.4 on that body. However, when it comes to quality glass the 16-55mm f/2.8 is outstanding, and is my daily working lens on my X-T3. I have used it on the X-E3, but it is big and awkward on the small body. The only thing that could improve it would be to have a version with OIS. For now it is, as some have claimed, a bag of primes. I even find that my 16mm f/1.4 is hardly used since I bought the 16-55 (I bought mine used from B&H for $748). Currently on my Fujinon wish list are the 80mm f/2.8, and the 50-140mm f/2.8. I will wait on the 16-80mm. The 16-55 didn't seem to me different enough to the 18-55 to justify, for my purposes. I have the 10-24 for super wide. But having read the reviews I think I'll definitely get the 16-80 and use that as the default lens on the T3, and relegate the 18-55 to use on the E1 when I want to carry something smaller. Seems I have to wait until September, though. I'm certainly tempted by the same lenses as you, but I don't think I *really* need them. I suppose I am not really a serious enough photographer to be a primes purist. High iso and effective OIS means you don't need fast glass so much any more, and I don't do as much arty, differential focus stuff as I did in film days. |
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Finally a decent travel zoom from Fuji
On Jul 29, 2019, newshound wrote
(in articleHLGdnfg4MLJbL6PAnZ2dnUU78KfNnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk): On 21/07/2019 16:09, Savageduck wrote: On Jul 21, 2019, newshound wrote (in articlecsSdnctm_bjz5anAnZ2dnUU78dnNnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk): On 21/07/2019 08:58, Alfred Molon wrote: https://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses/fujinon/xf-16- 80mm-f4-r-ois-wr/review/ Same length as the 18-55, 80 grams heavier. The closer focussing is nice. The 18-55 is a useful lens IMHO. But I'd sat this plus an X-T30 body would be a pretty good way to start for anyone tempted by Fuji X. The 16-80mm is a lens I might consider, and it is with the 18-55mm a good choice for a Fujifilm starter. For now it is tough to fault the 18-55mm as it still gives you F/2.8 at 18mm, and f/4 at 55mm. I use the 18-55mm on my smaller X-E3 when I don’t have one of the primes, 23mm f/2.0, or 35mm f/1.4 on that body. However, when it comes to quality glass the 16-55mm f/2.8 is outstanding, and is my daily working lens on my X-T3. I have used it on the X-E3, but it is big and awkward on the small body. The only thing that could improve it would be to have a version with OIS. For now it is, as some have claimed, a bag of primes. I even find that my 16mm f/1.4 is hardly used since I bought the 16-55 (I bought mine used from B&H for $748). Currently on my Fujinon wish list are the 80mm f/2.8, and the 50-140mm f/2.8. I will wait on the 16-80mm. The 16-55 didn't seem to me different enough to the 18-55 to justify, for my purposes. I have the 10-24 for super wide. My thinking mirrored yours for some time, and there were other lenses I wanted before even thinking about the 16-55. I was three years into the Fujifilm X-system before I bought my used 16-55. I was thinking more of the WR, which I need more for dust protection out here, rather than rain, or snow. I try not to go out in the rain for photography that much.Once it was on my X-T3 it was a revelation for me, and turned out to be everything that it had been said to be, and I was quite surprised by the amazing image quality throughout the FL range. However, it is much too large for the X-E bodies. As I said above, the 18-55 is a great lens, and now is usually on my X-E2, or X-E3, or if I need a smaller general purpose zoom on the X-T3. The 16-55 gives me that extra 2mm to go wider, and the f/2.8 through the zoom range is helpful at times. The image quality difference between the two lenses is subtle, but undeniable. The 10-24 is a lens I have considered, but I have found my 14mm f/2.8 wide enough when needed. But having read the reviews I think I'll definitely get the 16-80 and use that as the default lens on the T3, and relegate the 18-55 to use on the E1 when I want to carry something smaller. Seems I have to wait until September, though. I'm certainly tempted by the same lenses as you, but I don't think I *really* need them. My current wish list lenses (including the 16-80/4) are going to have to wait for next year, or the next tempting Fuji sale as this has become my year for major house maintenance, and winter storm damage spending. I have had fallen trees dealt with, the roof replaced, and now I have the fence to replace, and the exterior to paint. All of that is costing enough that satisfying my lust for photography gear has been restrained. I suppose I am not really a serious enough photographer to be a primes purist. High iso and effective OIS means you don't need fast glass so much any more, and I don't do as much arty, differential focus stuff as I did in film days. For me there is something about the Fujifilm primes which I find appealing, and occasionally challenging, and using the 23mm f/2.0 on one of my X-E bodies makes a great, and inconspicuous street shooting rig. Then there is the 16mm f/1.4 which is probably one of the best lenses I have ever owned, unfortunately, these days I seem to have the 16-55 on my X-T3 more than I have the 16/1.4 in my bag. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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