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P&S shooters: This is your CUE to do the RIGHT thing
And get a DSLR:
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk...ws_176009.html Friday 25th January 2008 Chris Cheesman Canon EOS 30D The launch of new, improved and cheaper enthusiast-level DSLRs is forcing down the price of seemingly overpriced used cameras by up to 30%, according to a Japanese press report. Trade publication Pen News Weekly reports that a doubling of consumers trading-in new DSLRs has led to an increase in dealers' stocks of used models. 'Rapidly increasing supply forced dealers to reduce the price by as much as 20-30%, stripping profits,' reports Pen. The article, published earlier this month, is based on comments made by an unnamed industry source at a meeting organised by the Tokyo Photo Dealers Association. Pen asserts that the problem affects digital models more so than it did film-based SLRs because newer models are 'without exception' cheaper - and with 'better features' - than the cameras they replace. PictuThe Japanese article cites the Canon EOS 30D as one example of a used DSLR which has seen stock levels rise as a result of newer models entering the market - in this case the EOS 40D |
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P&S shooters: This is your CUE to do the RIGHT thing
I am sitting here staring at my Nikon D80 with Nikon 18-200VR lens attached.
This is a form factor only an SUV lover could admi large, heavy, protruding. I have lugged this gargantua across the Pacific and the Atlantic and probably the neck strap has permanently grooved the underlying bones in my neck and shoulders. Compare this obeastie to the form factor of all in one long zooms from Panasonic, Canon, Olympus, Fuji, Sony. Particularly if you just shoot jpegs, and obviously for personal and not professional use, it is an illogical, I dare say stupid decision, to get a dSLR for the majority of shooters out there, whether they recognize it or not. If most shooters recognized their limits Kodak might still be peddling instamatics . . . . If the noise beast can be tamed in the new Sony 12mp sensor it can be tamed in the smaller sensors too--for the uses these cameras are intended just taming noise to ISO 400 is probably enough. |
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P&S shooters: This is your CUE to do the RIGHT thing
Rich wrote:
And get a DSLR: http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk...ws_176009.html Friday 25th January 2008 Chris Cheesman Canon EOS 30D The launch of new, improved and cheaper enthusiast-level DSLRs is forcing down the price of seemingly overpriced used cameras by up to snipped The vast majority of camera users of any type aren't reading ng's so views exchanged therein probably aren't going to change very many minds. I can never understand how some poster's to ng's can categorically state that which we should all use be it cameras, operating systems or anything else with no regard to why and how we use same. My guess is readers of this group appreciate views and experiences with specific models or types when making choices, but are pretty savvy as to what they feel they need. Dave Cohen Dave Cohen |
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P&S shooters: This is your CUE to do the RIGHT thing
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:05:31 GMT, "flambe" wrote:
I am sitting here staring at my Nikon D80 with Nikon 18-200VR lens attached. This is a form factor only an SUV lover could admi large, heavy, protruding. I have lugged this gargantua across the Pacific and the Atlantic and probably the neck strap has permanently grooved the underlying bones in my neck and shoulders. If you have a D80, then chances are you had a SLR 35mm film camera. If you have an 18-200, chances are you had at least one extra long lens for your 35mm SLR film camera. I'll bet if I take out my old film 35mm and a long lens, that combination would weigh double what your D80 and 18-200 weigh. Well, may a third more. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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P&S shooters: This is your CUE to do the RIGHT thing
flambe wrote:
I am sitting here staring at my Nikon D80 with Nikon 18-200VR lens attached. This is a form factor only an SUV lover could admi large, heavy, protruding. I have lugged this gargantua across the Pacific and the Atlantic and probably the neck strap has permanently grooved the underlying bones in my neck and shoulders. Compare this obeastie to the form factor of all in one long zooms from Panasonic, Canon, Olympus, Fuji, Sony. Particularly if you just shoot jpegs, and obviously for personal and not professional use, it is an illogical, I dare say stupid decision, to get a dSLR for the majority of shooters out there, whether they recognize it or not. If most shooters recognized their limits Kodak might still be peddling instamatics . . . . If the noise beast can be tamed in the new Sony 12mp sensor it can be tamed in the smaller sensors too--for the uses these cameras are intended just taming noise to ISO 400 is probably enough. For many years ASA 400 was considered 'fast'. I have never used anything faster, and have taken a LOT of pictures with ASA 25 film. Working within the limitations of one's equipment is something every photographer has to learn. Size is a very important factor to me, rendering any kind of superzoom, or DSLR, unusable. I am not a professional, not even a 'serious amateur'. I submit that my use of a camera is my business, and no one has a right to tell me that my needs, and my wants, are 'wrong', or that it makes me any less competent because I choose a less flexible, less powerful, less complex, less expensive tool to do what I like to do. Anyone who don't like that can just sit on it! |
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P&S shooters: This is your CUE to do the RIGHT thing
flambe wrote: I am sitting here staring at my Nikon D80 with Nikon 18-200VR lens attached. This is a form factor only an SUV lover could admi large, heavy, protruding. I have lugged this gargantua across the Pacific and the Atlantic and probably the neck strap has permanently grooved the underlying bones in my neck and shoulders. Compare this obeastie to the form factor of all in one long zooms from Panasonic, Canon, Olympus, Fuji, Sony. Particularly if you just shoot jpegs, and obviously for personal and not professional use, it is an illogical, I dare say stupid decision, to get a dSLR for the majority of shooters out there, whether they recognize it or not. I have a Canon S5 and do like the results and light weight. But I want to print 11x14 and larger with some cropping and feel that a DSLR will produce better results and also allow me to shoot as higher ISO with less noise. Are you saying you do not agree with this? If most shooters recognized their limits Kodak might still be peddling instamatics . . . . If the noise beast can be tamed in the new Sony 12mp sensor it can be tamed in the smaller sensors too--for the uses these cameras are intended just taming noise to ISO 400 is probably enough. |
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P&S shooters: This is your CUE to do the RIGHT thing
On Jan 26, 12:05 pm, "flambe" wrote:
I am sitting here staring at my Nikon D80 with Nikon 18-200VR lens attached. This is a form factor only an SUV lover could admi large, heavy, protruding. I have lugged this gargantua across the Pacific and the Atlantic and probably the neck strap has permanently grooved the underlying bones in my neck and shoulders. Compare this obeastie to the form factor of all in one long zooms from Panasonic, Canon, Olympus, Fuji, Sony. Particularly if you just shoot jpegs, and obviously for personal and not professional use, it is an illogical, I dare say stupid decision, to get a dSLR for the majority of shooters out there, whether they recognize it or not. Your logic is flawed. If you use JPEGs only, a DSLR is a major asset since by using JPEGs you restrict and already restricted dynamic range in P&Ss. |
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P&S shooters: This is your CUE to do the RIGHT thing
Hey **** wadd. If you don't like P&S cameras don't buy one. Leaves others
the **** alone and shove your opinion on them up your dSLR memory slot! |
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P&S shooters: This is your CUE to do the RIGHT thing
On Jan 28, 2:42 pm, wrote:
Hey **** wadd. If you don't like P&S cameras don't buy one. Leaves others the **** alone and shove your opinion on them up your dSLR memory slot! Don't like it, don't read it idiot. |
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