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help needed :shooting manual with the canon 10d
im trying to improve my photography by using manual mode . looking for some insight and advice from you guys with experience , i had a frustrating day last sunday trying to get action shots @ a horse show i must say it is a hard thing to get the riders face in focus with them 10 gallon hats with shade under them to begin with . it was definetly the most contrasty day of the year & very bright out & alot of dust clouds the horses were kicking up . i was trying tv mode, av mode & manual with flash , without flash, (i have a sigma super 550 only syncs to 200 shutter speed ,anyone using the speedlight ex 550 at very fast shutter speeds ,fp mode ? ) , al servo , continous shooting mode, is on, mode 2 for moving objects, center point focus ,auto white balance to sun , tryed other settings for wb (local news wag recamended manual focus ,hmm try that sunday) tryed every possible shutter speed /aperture , bumbed up the iso to 200 (i thought iso being bumbed up was for low light situations , was told for really fast shutter speeds i should bumb it up ?, how come my pictures don't look like other great sports shots ive seen, lol)end of day when cloud was over and got some good action shots then , still the faces not really sharp . i was reading my manual today to get a better understanding , and tryed some things in there that i wasn't paying attention to while shooting sunday . the 1st was to exposuer compensation in tv or av mode , adjust the shutter speed, slower or faster, aperture more open or closed , i was experamenting in the manual mode down near the river with my 70-200 2.8l is and also tryed it with the 1.4 II extender , ive been told i need to have at least 750 shutter speed to freeze the action unlike the av,tv mode when i tryed to get the exposure balance meter to the middle i couldn't get anywhere near there with a 350 shutter speed no matter what aperture i went to , when i bumbed up the iso i was able to but the pictures weren't excatly crisp and sharp like i want . ive heard the terms under expose and overexpose a stop 2 stops etc would this mean by not haveing the exposure balance meter in the middle but 1 or 2 nothches =/- ?. if so when does one go about doing this , more light faster shutter speed , less light slower speed am i on the right track ? i also started looking at the histogram and comparing readings , between manual and auto settings , i shot the same pic in auto then manual and the manual was alot nicer and used a faster shutter speed , compared to the auto ss and aperture .is that the best way to go about determing the right exposure in manual ? im going to another horse show again sunday to give it another try . im also thinking of just getting a good position and use my 24-70 2.8l instead of haveing to zoom all the way out with the 70-200 ?. am i headed in the right direction here ? thanks. nicky |
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help needed :shooting manual with the canon 10d
I recommend you visit the 10D/D60/D30 forum at dpreview. Lots of
expertise there. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1019 Phil Nickyvonbuskergr wrote: im trying to improve my photography by using manual mode . looking for some insight and advice from you guys with experience , i had a frustrating day last sunday trying to get action shots @ a horse show i must say it is a hard thing to get the riders face in focus with them 10 gallon hats with shade under them to begin with . it was definetly the most contrasty day of the year & very bright out & alot of dust clouds the horses were kicking up . i was trying tv mode, av mode & manual with flash , without flash, (i have a sigma super 550 only syncs to 200 shutter speed ,anyone using the speedlight ex 550 at very fast shutter speeds ,fp mode ? ) , al servo , continous shooting mode, is on, mode 2 for moving objects, center point focus ,auto white balance to sun , tryed other settings for wb (local news wag recamended manual focus ,hmm try that sunday) tryed every possible shutter speed /aperture , bumbed up the iso to 200 (i thought iso being bumbed up was for low light situations , was told for really fast shutter speeds i should bumb it up ?, how come my pictures don't look like other great sports shots ive seen, lol)end of day when cloud was over and got some good action shots then , still the faces not really sharp . i was reading my manual today to get a better understanding , and tryed some things in there that i wasn't paying attention to while shooting sunday . the 1st was to exposuer compensation in tv or av mode , adjust the shutter speed, slower or faster, aperture more open or closed , i was experamenting in the manual mode down near the river with my 70-200 2.8l is and also tryed it with the 1.4 II extender , ive been told i need to have at least 750 shutter speed to freeze the action unlike the av,tv mode when i tryed to get the exposure balance meter to the middle i couldn't get anywhere near there with a 350 shutter speed no matter what aperture i went to , when i bumbed up the iso i was able to but the pictures weren't excatly crisp and sharp like i want . ive heard the terms under expose and overexpose a stop 2 stops etc would this mean by not haveing the exposure balance meter in the middle but 1 or 2 nothches =/- ?. if so when does one go about doing this , more light faster shutter speed , less light slower speed am i on the right track ? i also started looking at the histogram and comparing readings , between manual and auto settings , i shot the same pic in auto then manual and the manual was alot nicer and used a faster shutter speed , compared to the auto ss and aperture .is that the best way to go about determing the right exposure in manual ? im going to another horse show again sunday to give it another try . im also thinking of just getting a good position and use my 24-70 2.8l instead of haveing to zoom all the way out with the 70-200 ?. am i headed in the right direction here ? thanks. nicky |
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help needed :shooting manual with the canon 10d
have you more money than sense?
das B "Nickyvonbuskergr" wrote in message ... im trying to improve my photography by using manual mode . looking for some insight and advice from you guys with experience , i had a frustrating day last sunday trying to get action shots @ a horse show i must say it is a hard thing to get the riders face in focus with them 10 gallon hats with shade under them to begin with . it was definetly the most contrasty day of the year & very bright out & alot of dust clouds the horses were kicking up . i was trying tv mode, av mode & manual with flash , without flash, (i have a sigma super 550 only syncs to 200 shutter speed ,anyone using the speedlight ex 550 at very fast shutter speeds ,fp mode ? ) , al servo , continous shooting mode, is on, mode 2 for moving objects, center point focus ,auto white balance to sun , tryed other settings for wb (local news wag recamended manual focus ,hmm try that sunday) tryed every possible shutter speed /aperture , bumbed up the iso to 200 (i thought iso being bumbed up was for low light situations , was told for really fast shutter speeds i should bumb it up ?, how come my pictures don't look like other great sports shots ive seen, lol)end of day when cloud was over and got some good action shots then , still the faces not really sharp . i was reading my manual today to get a better understanding , and tryed some things in there that i wasn't paying attention to while shooting sunday . the 1st was to exposuer compensation in tv or av mode , adjust the shutter speed, slower or faster, aperture more open or closed , i was experamenting in the manual mode down near the river with my 70-200 2.8l is and also tryed it with the 1.4 II extender , ive been told i need to have at least 750 shutter speed to freeze the action unlike the av,tv mode when i tryed to get the exposure balance meter to the middle i couldn't get anywhere near there with a 350 shutter speed no matter what aperture i went to , when i bumbed up the iso i was able to but the pictures weren't excatly crisp and sharp like i want . ive heard the terms under expose and overexpose a stop 2 stops etc would this mean by not haveing the exposure balance meter in the middle but 1 or 2 nothches =/- ?. if so when does one go about doing this , more light faster shutter speed , less light slower speed am i on the right track ? i also started looking at the histogram and comparing readings , between manual and auto settings , i shot the same pic in auto then manual and the manual was alot nicer and used a faster shutter speed , compared to the auto ss and aperture .is that the best way to go about determing the right exposure in manual ? im going to another horse show again sunday to give it another try . im also thinking of just getting a good position and use my 24-70 2.8l instead of haveing to zoom all the way out with the 70-200 ?. am i headed in the right direction here ? thanks. nicky |
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help needed :shooting manual with the canon 10d
have you more money than sense?
das B depending on your definition , do you have any photography sense to help me with my post ?. nicky "Nickyvonbuskergr" wrote in message ... im trying to improve my photography by using manual mode . looking for some insight and advice from you guys with experience , i had a frustrating day last sunday trying to get action shots @ a horse show i must say it is a hard thing to get the riders face in focus with them 10 gallon hats with shade under them to begin with . it was definetly the most contrasty day of the year & very bright out & alot of dust clouds the horses were kicking up . i was trying tv mode, av mode & manual with flash , without flash, (i have a sigma super 550 only syncs to 200 shutter speed ,anyone using the speedlight ex 550 at very fast shutter speeds ,fp mode ? ) , al servo , continous shooting mode, is on, mode 2 for moving objects, center point focus ,auto white balance to sun , tryed other settings for wb (local news wag recamended manual focus ,hmm try that sunday) tryed every possible shutter speed /aperture , bumbed up the iso to 200 (i thought iso being bumbed up was for low light situations , was told for really fast shutter speeds i should bumb it up ?, how come my pictures don't look like other great sports shots ive seen, lol)end of day when cloud was over and got some good action shots then , still the faces not really sharp . i was reading my manual today to get a better understanding , and tryed some things in there that i wasn't paying attention to while shooting sunday . the 1st was to exposuer compensation in tv or av mode , adjust the shutter speed, slower or faster, aperture more open or closed , i was experamenting in the manual mode down near the river with my 70-200 2.8l is and also tryed it with the 1.4 II extender , ive been told i need to have at least 750 shutter speed to freeze the action unlike the av,tv mode when i tryed to get the exposure balance meter to the middle i couldn't get anywhere near there with a 350 shutter speed no matter what aperture i went to , when i bumbed up the iso i was able to but the pictures weren't excatly crisp and sharp like i want . ive heard the terms under expose and overexpose a stop 2 stops etc would this mean by not haveing the exposure balance meter in the middle but 1 or 2 nothches =/- ?. if so when does one go about doing this , more light faster shutter speed , less light slower speed am i on the right track ? i also started looking at the histogram and comparing readings , between manual and auto settings , i shot the same pic in auto then manual and the manual was alot nicer and used a faster shutter speed , compared to the auto ss and aperture .is that the best way to go about determing the right exposure in manual ? im going to another horse show again sunday to give it another try . im also thinking of just getting a good position and use my 24-70 2.8l instead of haveing to zoom all the way out with the 70-200 ?. am i headed in the right direction here ? thanks. nicky |
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help needed :shooting manual with the canon 10d
"Nickyvonbuskergr" wrote in message ... im trying to improve my photography by using manual mode . You seem to be starting from zero. I would highly recommend starting with a book that covers all the basic concepts. I like John Shaw's book called "Nature Photographer's Field Guide." -Even though it says "nature", and is based on 35mm film shooting, ALL of the concepts covered will speak directly to your questions, and will explain things in terms that are not only understandable, but also which are not an insult ot your intelligence (as some of the more "basic" photography books seem to be). Start there... Then try things. After you've done that, this forum will be a far more useful source of information because you'll be able to ask more specific questions. I think the reason you didn't get much help may be due to the impression your post gives--that you're starting from scratch, and asked questions that were all over the map. Here's a link to the above book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books -Mark |
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4 your information , i am not one who has been handed everything my whole life
.. i grew up poor on the other side of the tracks and that was when it wasn't so politcly correct to be poor not alot of fun . i am know around my town for my voluntering work with the troubled youth in our community as i was once one myself. thru sports program i am able to get thur to them in ways that others might not .. i work my butt off at my job and i save and spend my money wisely(ur laughing buying all the expensive equipment lol) , don't drink or drug , live a clean life . i have a passion for photography otherwise i wouldn't have spent my hard earned money on equipment . with that said was it a crime to ask for some guidance ? i appreaciate where you think im coming from as i never cared for others who had alot of everything i didn't growing up but thats just not the case here . nicky think what he means is When I see posts like yours my heart sinks inside. Knowing that someone who doesn't even have the most basic and rudimentary skills needed to be a photographer, yet can afford top-of-the-line equipment. I saved up for five years to finally get a decent digital camera and it's nowhere near as nice as the one you have in your hands--the very camera that would allow me to delve into those night-time and available-light shots that I pride myself on. Photography has been a passion and challenge all my life. Yet it's never been in the cards where I could buy better equipment to improve my photos and keep its capabilities ahead of my skills. I always had to make-do with whatever I could. Sometimes with nothing more than an old brownie-box camera that I could get at a garage-sale or hand-me-down b/w darkroom supplies, and using up the old chemicals and papers that were included, making each print count because I could never afford replacement supplies. All that your post brings to mind is an old African proverb: "A rich man shames himself, a poor man shames us all." It's very difficult to want to help someone who is lucky enough to be able to get the equipment that would be better served if _ONLY_ it were in someone else's hands. If you can afford to buy that camera maybe you can afford to pay someone to teach you the basics of photography. That you could easily even learn on your own if you weren't so used to just asking for things all your life and people just handing you whatever you wanted without you doing any real work at all for it. Yes, I've met people like you all my life, it's why your post is so obviously transparent. Asking for free advice from those not as fortunate as you (lessons you could easily teach yourself), while swinging around your new toy like some flashy new necklace isn't going to help your image much, much less your photography. (pun intended) Sorry if this post seems rude or out of place, but if you only knew how many times I've helped others in life that had way more than I'll ever have yet I never got anything more in return for it than a "thanks!" I just couldn't pass up the chance to comment and get it off my chest a little. Maybe now you'll have some insight into why you're not getting the free help you're asking for. From my perspective you don't deserve it. But at least I'll have the compassion, courtesy, and respect to let you know why. It's the only lesson I can afford to give someone like you. It's not the lesson you expected nor wanted but maybe you can learn from it. I doubt it though. People like can never learn the important lessons in life. btw: I built my computer from parts that I found in junk boxes, and use a $9.95 per month dial-up access. In case you think my presence online is hypocritical to my post. |
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help needed :shooting manual with the canon 10d
Hi Nicky
One of the best ways to acquire skills is by some of the many online training options open to you May a camera pro near you has courses on offer? Give it a try - practical experience is good but there ain't no point in redesigning the wheel if you know what I mean das B "Nickyvonbuskergr" wrote in message ... have you more money than sense? das B depending on your definition , do you have any photography sense to help me with my post ?. nicky "Nickyvonbuskergr" wrote in message ... im trying to improve my photography by using manual mode . looking for some insight and advice from you guys with experience , i had a frustrating day last sunday trying to get action shots @ a horse show i must say it is a hard thing to get the riders face in focus with them 10 gallon hats with shade under them to begin with . it was definetly the most contrasty day of the year & very bright out & alot of dust clouds the horses were kicking up . i was trying tv mode, av mode & manual with flash , without flash, (i have a sigma super 550 only syncs to 200 shutter speed ,anyone using the speedlight ex 550 at very fast shutter speeds ,fp mode ? ) , al servo , continous shooting mode, is on, mode 2 for moving objects, center point focus ,auto white balance to sun , tryed other settings for wb (local news wag recamended manual focus ,hmm try that sunday) tryed every possible shutter speed /aperture , bumbed up the iso to 200 (i thought iso being bumbed up was for low light situations , was told for really fast shutter speeds i should bumb it up ?, how come my pictures don't look like other great sports shots ive seen, lol)end of day when cloud was over and got some good action shots then , still the faces not really sharp . i was reading my manual today to get a better understanding , and tryed some things in there that i wasn't paying attention to while shooting sunday .. the 1st was to exposuer compensation in tv or av mode , adjust the shutter speed, slower or faster, aperture more open or closed , i was experamenting in the manual mode down near the river with my 70-200 2.8l is and also tryed it with the 1.4 II extender , ive been told i need to have at least 750 shutter speed to freeze the action unlike the av,tv mode when i tryed to get the exposure balance meter to the middle i couldn't get anywhere near there with a 350 shutter speed no matter what aperture i went to , when i bumbed up the iso i was able to but the pictures weren't excatly crisp and sharp like i want . ive heard the terms under expose and overexpose a stop 2 stops etc would this mean by not haveing the exposure balance meter in the middle but 1 or 2 nothches =/- ?. if so when does one go about doing this , more light faster shutter speed , less light slower speed am i on the right track ? i also started looking at the histogram and comparing readings , between manual and auto settings , i shot the same pic in auto then manual and the manual was alot nicer and used a faster shutter speed , compared to the auto ss and aperture .is that the best way to go about determing the right exposure in manual ? im going to another horse show again sunday to give it another try . im also thinking of just getting a good position and use my 24-70 2.8l instead of haveing to zoom all the way out with the 70-200 ?. am i headed in the right direction here ? thanks. nicky |
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In article , RichPeopleSuck
wrote: When I see posts like yours my heart sinks inside. Knowing that someone who doesn't even have the most basic and rudimentary skills needed to be a photographer, yet can afford top-of-the-line equipment. I saved up for five years to finally get a decent digital camera and it's nowhere near as nice as the one you have in your hands--the very camera that would allow me to delve into those night-time and available-light shots that I pride myself on. Photography has been a passion and challenge all my life. Yet it's never been in the cards where I could buy better equipment to improve my photos and keep its capabilities ahead of my skills. I always had to make-do with whatever I could. Sometimes with nothing more than an old brownie-box camera that I could get at a garage-sale or hand-me-down b/w darkroom supplies, and using up the old chemicals and papers that were included, making each print count because I could never afford replacement supplies. It's always been that way. I've seen guys with Hasselblads that didn't know what to do with them. I've seen people with Sinars that didn't know an f/stop from an f-sharp. |
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help needed :shooting manual with the canon 10d
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books
One of the best and should answer most of your questions. |
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