Hybrid Batteries

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:09:20 -0600, ray wrote:

I hope you'll forgive me for being such an idiot. I read the OP eight
times and I did not see AA in there once.

That is what the batteries mentioned by the OP ARE. You might read up
on the subject so you can follow the discussion.

DAMN. I just reread the OP five more times and I still don't see it.

A very quick Google search on "Rayovac Hybrid NiMh 2100Mah" (sans
quotes) will let you know that such batteries are available in two
sizes: AA and AAA.

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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 06:16:04 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

DAMN. I just reread the OP five more times and I still don't see it.

Please enlighten us as to the availability of a "Rayovac Hybrid NiMh
2100Mah" or "Energizer 2500Mah" battery that can be used in some manner
in conjunction with a digital camera or a GPS and is _not_ an AA
battery.

They are available as AAAs...
https://www.batteriesplus.com/pc-359...%20%20%20.aspx
or:
http://tinyurl.com/2cfkmd


--
THIS IS A SIG LINE; NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!

Hillary Clinton visited a veteran's hospital
in Syracuse Tuesday and promised better care
for wounded veterans. She's wounded her share.
Whenever the Commander-in-Chief used to walk
into the Rose Garden with a black eye, you
knew he was having a good week.

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:49:54 -0600, ray wrote:

DAMN. I just reread the OP five more times and I still don't see it.

It's right there in the first line. He names the batteries, and they
ARE AA batteries, which you would KNOW if you read up on the subject.

Except, of course, that the rayovac web site indicates that their hybrid
batteries are available in AA and AAA which you would KNOW if you read up
on the subject.

Well, of course, so would you...

--
THIS IS A SIG LINE; NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!

Hillary Clinton visited a veteran's hospital
in Syracuse Tuesday and promised better care
for wounded veterans. She's wounded her share.
Whenever the Commander-in-Chief used to walk
into the Rose Garden with a black eye, you
knew he was having a good week.

J. Clarke wrote:
Ron Hunter wrote:
Mike Lane wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:46:35 +0100, J. Clarke wrote
(in article ):

Mark B. wrote:
"ray" wrote in message
news On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:44:01 -0700, ~~NoMad~~ wrote:
Now all we need is higher capacity Hybrids!

NM
Or Li-Ion

Li-ion are ok if you only pick up the camera infrequently, or
you're going on a trip where you'll be away from a source of
electricity for a period of time. Other than that, it's just
throwing money down the drain as far as I'm concerned. While I'm
not an earth-hugger, yes there is an environmental concern with
disposable batteries. They cost about the same as they hybrids,
so the only additional cost with hybrids is a good charger.
??? Lithium ion batteries are no more "disposable" than "hybrids".

You seem to be confusing lithium ion with lithium-i_r_on. Lithium
ion is a 3.6 volt rechargeable technology, not readily available in
AA, lithium iron is 1.3 volt nonrechargable and made in AA size.

I always keep a couple of sets of lithium-iron batteries in my bag
for emergencies--they keep practically forever and have very high
capacity.
Yes for cameras I find them excellent. I put in a set of 4 in my
Canon A620 last year. I took about 400 shots on holiday and quite a
few since, and they're still going strong. I don't think I'll go
back to the NiMH with all their charging paraphernalia.

On my camera, the Lithium disposables give about 300 shots, while I
get about 250 from NIMH batteries, IF I do all the shooting in 3-5
days. Longer times greatly reduce the number of shots due to
self-discharge. Since I can buy the disposables for 12 for $20, I
find them a plausible choice for my purposes. My picture taking
tends to be sporadic.

If you need a large number of shots, get a DSLR and turn off the LCD.
I've shot at least 4000 images since the last time I charged the battery
in my 30D. I've never shot a battery to exhaustion in it.

Sounds like the photographer would be exhausted before the battery.... Grin.

Jack Erbes wrote:
Dot wrote:
~~NoMad~~ wrote:

Greetings!

I've been using Rayovac Hybrid NiMh 2100Mah batteries for a couple of
months now. These are the ones that come fully charged in the package
when you buy them. They claim to have 4 times less leakage than
typical NiMh batteries. Previously I had been using Energizer 2500Mah
batteries that seem to leak down pretty fast when not in use.


Not sure which sub-thread to ask under, but how do these various
rechargeables work in cold weather - like below 0F in AK winter.
That's one of the primary reasons I started using primary lithium
cells, as well as shelf life. Where I started using them in field we
also didn't have access to electricity for a week or so. I've just
continued using what works, but am interested in newer stuff, esp. if
I don't have to keep buying batteries. (I've got lots of toys running
on AA or AAA batteries - gps, headlamps for running, footpods, field
computers, etc. Unfortunately, my camera doesn't use std batteries.)

Thanks.

Dot

Interesting question. I'm in Maine but have not used my 76Cx outdoors
much this winter. And then it was in and out of my pocket and it worked
fine for brief periods of time.

I'll have to pay more attention to that next year as we are about out of
winter here now.

Jack

Lithium based batteries do have better low temperature performance than
NiMH, but both will put out less power as they get rather colder.

ray wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 06:16:04 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:

ray wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 04:20:48 -0500, Ron Hunter wrote:

ray wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:18:34 +0000, Dave Cohen wrote:

ray wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:44:01 -0700, ~~NoMad~~ wrote:

Greetings!

I've been using Rayovac Hybrid NiMh 2100Mah batteries for a
couple of months now. These are the ones that come fully charged
in the package when you buy them. They claim to have 4 times
less leakage than typical NiMh batteries. Previously I had been
using Energizer 2500Mah batteries that seem to leak down pretty
fast when not in use.

I use my batteries almost everyday and always carry a spare
freshly charged set. I usually wear out a set of Energizers in
two weeks to a month. When I change to the spare set it seems
that the previously charged batteries have leaked considerable
charge. This is not the case with the new Hybrid batteries.

I find that even though the Hybrids are rated at lower capacity
than the Energizers the Hybrids actually last longer in my usage
situation.

Now all we need is higher capacity Hybrids!

NM
Or Li-Ion

The subject is rechargeable AA's. I've been using a set of Sanyo
Eneloops since last September, only charged once. These are
excellent. Hybrid type are licensed from Sanyo but their rating is
not same. Eneloop claim to keep 85% of their charge for a year,
Hybrid 3 months. I think either way this is much better than other
NiMH's. Hybrids costs less in Walmart, haven't seen them selling
Eneloop, got mine for Ritz. Dave Cohen
I hope you'll forgive me for being such an idiot. I read the OP
eight times and I did not see AA in there once.

That is what the batteries mentioned by the OP ARE. You might read
up on the subject so you can follow the discussion.
DAMN. I just reread the OP five more times and I still don't see it.
Please enlighten us as to the availability of a "Rayovac Hybrid NiMh
2100Mah" or "Energizer 2500Mah" battery that can be used in some manner
in conjunction with a digital camera or a GPS and is _not_ an AA
battery.

--

Well, the rayovac website indicates that they currently have hybrid in AA
and AAA. Am I correct in thinking that AAA is not AA?

Well, if this:
Rayovac Hybrid NiMh 2100Mah

Isn't sufficient, please show me a AAA battery with 2100Mah capacity.
You can wiggle however you want, but your ignorance (and pig-headedness)
is showing. I should know something about the latter....

ray wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:40:49 -0500, Ron Hunter wrote:

ray wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 04:20:48 -0500, Ron Hunter wrote:

ray wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:18:34 +0000, Dave Cohen wrote:

ray wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:44:01 -0700, ~~NoMad~~ wrote:

Greetings!

I've been using Rayovac Hybrid NiMh 2100Mah batteries for a couple of months
now. These are the ones that come fully charged in the package when you buy
them. They claim to have 4 times less leakage than typical NiMh batteries.
Previously I had been using Energizer 2500Mah batteries that seem to leak
down pretty fast when not in use.

I use my batteries almost everyday and always carry a spare freshly charged
set. I usually wear out a set of Energizers in two weeks to a month. When I
change to the spare set it seems that the previously charged batteries have
leaked considerable charge. This is not the case with the new Hybrid
batteries.

I find that even though the Hybrids are rated at lower capacity than the
Energizers the Hybrids actually last longer in my usage situation.

Now all we need is higher capacity Hybrids!

NM
Or Li-Ion

The subject is rechargeable AA's. I've been using a set of Sanyo
Eneloops since last September, only charged once. These are excellent.
Hybrid type are licensed from Sanyo but their rating is not same.
Eneloop claim to keep 85% of their charge for a year, Hybrid 3 months. I
think either way this is much better than other NiMH's. Hybrids costs
less in Walmart, haven't seen them selling Eneloop, got mine for Ritz.
Dave Cohen
I hope you'll forgive me for being such an idiot. I read the OP eight
times and I did not see AA in there once.

That is what the batteries mentioned by the OP ARE. You might read up
on the subject so you can follow the discussion.
DAMN. I just reread the OP five more times and I still don't see it.

It's right there in the first line. He names the batteries, and they
ARE AA batteries, which you would KNOW if you read up on the subject.

Except, of course, that the rayovac web site indicates that their hybrid
batteries are available in AA and AAA which you would KNOW if you read up
on the subject.

And where do I get the 2100 Mah AAA batteries? Sure could use some of
those!

Bill Funk wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:09:20 -0600, ray wrote:

I hope you'll forgive me for being such an idiot. I read the OP eight
times and I did not see AA in there once.

That is what the batteries mentioned by the OP ARE. You might read up
on the subject so you can follow the discussion.
DAMN. I just reread the OP five more times and I still don't see it.

A very quick Google search on "Rayovac Hybrid NiMh 2100Mah" (sans
quotes) will let you know that such batteries are available in two
sizes: AA and AAA.

Perhaps you could supply a URL for those 2100 Mah AAA batteries...?
I think you are up for remedial reading for comprehension.

Bill Funk wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 06:16:04 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

DAMN. I just reread the OP five more times and I still don't see it.
Please enlighten us as to the availability of a "Rayovac Hybrid NiMh
2100Mah" or "Energizer 2500Mah" battery that can be used in some manner
in conjunction with a digital camera or a GPS and is _not_ an AA
battery.

They are available as AAAs...
https://www.batteriesplus.com/pc-359...%20%20%20.aspx
or:
http://tinyurl.com/2cfkmd


Nope. Those are 800Mah, NOT 2100Mah. There is still a problem with
some people not reading the message.

Bill Funk wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:49:54 -0600, ray wrote:

DAMN. I just reread the OP five more times and I still don't see it.

It's right there in the first line. He names the batteries, and they
ARE AA batteries, which you would KNOW if you read up on the subject.
Except, of course, that the rayovac web site indicates that their hybrid
batteries are available in AA and AAA which you would KNOW if you read up
on the subject.

Well, of course, so would you...


The hybrid batteries are available in AA and AAA size, BUT the OP
clearly stated the capacity, which markedly exceeds the capacity
(2100MaH) of any AAA battery I have seen.