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Old July 14th 03, 06:21 PM
maark
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Default eBay sham - WARNING !


WARNING!!! !!!

Below mentioned one is SHAM - PRETENDER:

Matter:

On eBay auction #2939545013 (didnīt exist now !) was offered a camera
FinePix S2 Pro (US$950.00). I payed US$ 950.00 via Western Union after our
mutual agreement (Western Union Trackin number: 8786552590 sending on 11th
July 2003) at below mentioned man and he has sent me a fictitious FedEx and
UPS tracking number!

His name and address:

First name:Andy
Least name:Cheryl
Address:Via Postale Vecchia, 13/D
City:Luvinate (VA)
Zipp:21020
Country:Italy
His phone number :00393280499702

His e-mail:



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Old July 15th 03, 12:03 AM
Jerry L.
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Since you are not 'selling' anything with this post, why bother
putting your information here?

If the deal is too good to be true, that is usually the case.

You need to complain to the 'fine' folks that profit from and operate
E-Bay.
They may care you are out $950.00 bucks but I do not think they will
really give a hoot.

= = =

"maark" wrote in message ...
WARNING!!! !!!

Below mentioned one is SHAM - PRETENDER:

Matter:

On eBay auction #2939545013 (didnīt exist now !) was offered a camera

SNIP
Country:Italy
His phone number :00393280499702

His e-mail:

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Old July 15th 03, 01:50 AM
Danny
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Why would you send money out of country anyway? There have been NUMEROUS
warnings in newspapers and programs, as well as web sites for at least the
last year about scams involving the sending of money out of country via
money order or check....

While I may buy something from Canada from time to time, I would arrange
with a shop in a larger city near the seller to make an inspection of the
merchandise PRIOR to me sending any money. And even then, I would try to
involve the shop in the transaction.

It may cost you a little more in terms of money and time, but you will get
something for your money.

Good luck.

Danny

"maark" wrote in message
...

WARNING!!! !!!

Below mentioned one is SHAM - PRETENDER:

Matter:

On eBay auction #2939545013 (didnīt exist now !) was offered a camera
FinePix S2 Pro (US$950.00). I payed US$ 950.00 via Western Union after our
mutual agreement (Western Union Trackin number: 8786552590 sending on 11th
July 2003) at below mentioned man and he has sent me a fictitious FedEx

and
UPS tracking number!

His name and address:

First name:Andy
Least name:Cheryl
Address:Via Postale Vecchia, 13/D
City:Luvinate (VA)
Zipp:21020
Country:Italy
His phone number :00393280499702

His e-mail:





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Old July 15th 03, 06:21 AM
LuvAntique
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Address:Via Postale Vecchia, 13/D
City:Luvinate (VA)
Zipp:21020
Country:Italy


None of this makes any sense. The seller is registered on ebay as a US source,
sells from Australia, and the complaint has him in Italy. He has a
near-flawless feedback, with one neg more than 6 months ago, out of 300 +
positive. How can he have provide both a FedEx and UPS tracking number, since
only one carrier will be involved? And why an accusation of fraud when there's
hardly been time for the delivery to have been made from US/AUS/IT or wherever
it's from to Czechoslovakia? Hard to say who's on the up and up here, but it
would be appropriate to allow reasonable delivery time before going hysterical.
Maybe he just made a typo on the tracking number he sent, though he does seem
to be spread pretty thinly across three continents. At any rate, ebay insures
these things if it turns out there's fraud involved.
Michael Cleveland
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A Collection of Historical Photographica
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Old July 15th 03, 01:43 PM
Danny
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"LuvAntique" wrote in message
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(snip)
At any rate, ebay insures these things if it turns out there's fraud

involved.
Michael Cleveland
Past Reflections
A Collection of Historical Photographica


Only up to a certain dollar amount. ($200).
They cover $75 for an item valued up to $100 and only $175 for an item
valued at up to $500. They recommend escrow for anything over that. I
have a mountain bike for auction right now and a buyer in Germany offering
me the $1500 buy it now price. I may use the escrow to verify the
collection of his funds before I ship the bike to Michigan, (which is where
he wants it sent). Doesn't smell right to me, but I want cash in hand
before I let go of the bike.

Danny


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Old July 18th 03, 02:50 AM
Todd
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This is a classic scam. There have been numerous victims of this exact same
scam. Do not fall for it.

They almost always originate from Italy, Bulgaria, or Spain. The buyer
always gives a plausible reason why they're registered in the U.S. but wants
their money in Europe (we're on vacation, we had a sudden job transfer, I'm
here on business, etc).

Here are some tell tale signs of a fraudulent auction. If you see any of
these, first assume it's a fraud until you can verify otherwise:

If a "Buy it Now" price is less than 50% of retail. Right now, for example,
there are many auctions offering a Canon EOS 1Ds digital SLR camera for
$2000 or less. The camera retails for $7900. Big red flag.

A buyer who wants payment by Western Union. Sending money Western Union is
no better than wrapping cold hard cash in an envelope and mailing it to
someone. If you wouldn't do that, don't send money via WU. They'll
reassure you that you can send the money in a made up name so they can't
collect it until you change the recipient name, but this is a complete lie.
All the person needs is the MTCN (money transfer control number). Do not
fall for this.

Hundreds of Ebay users names have been hijacked and are now being used to
perpetrate fraud. These users have built up positive feedback in the
hundreds and even thousands. This works to reassure a buyer that they're
trustworthy. But look at the seller's history closely. If they've
typically bought and sold items that are low cost collectibles or video
games or nutritional products, for example, and are all of a sudden selling
high end stereos, plasma TVs, and digital cameras, that should be a big red
flag.

Don't trust any escrow service a seller recommends. Scammers have lulled so
many people into a sense of false security by making them think they're
using an escrow service when in actuality, the "escrow" service is merely a
slick looking website put up by the scammer themselves. You'll get an email
notifying you that the escrow service has received the product (which of
course they haven't) and you'll send the money. You've just been had.

If you receive an email purportedly from Ebay or Paypal asking you to
verify, confirm, re-authorize, etc. your user name and password, treat it as
if it's a scam, because it almost certainly is. Scam artists can easily
re-create a page that looks like it came from Ebay. All they have to do is
lift the logo graphics. If the email provides hyperlinks, don't trust the
link to take you where it says it will. What you see in the text of the
message may be completely different from how the hyperlink is coded.

If you inquire about an auction item and the seller offers to sell it to you
outside of the Ebay system, don't do it. It may be legitimate, but most
likely it's not.

If an Ebay seller has chosen to sell to "pre-approved bidders", be
skeptical. Scammers use the pre-approval process to thwart would be
vigilantes who in good conscience sabotage their auctions by bidding the
item up to a ridiculous price in order to ward off potential victims. By
making an auction for pre-approved bidders only, the scam seller can control
who gets to bid and can weed out the vigilantes. Almost all fraudulent
auctions for expensive electronics and cameras will be "pre-approved bidder"
auctions. Big red flag.

The biggest number of fraudulent auctions involve plasma TVs, digital
cameras, computers, and super premium stereo equipment. If you're looking
at Ebay auctions for these items and they have unbelievably low prices, it's
almost certainly a fraud. Assume that it is until proven otherwise.


"maark" wrote in message
...

WARNING!!! !!!

Below mentioned one is SHAM - PRETENDER:

Matter:

On eBay auction #2939545013 (didnīt exist now !) was offered a camera
FinePix S2 Pro (US$950.00). I payed US$ 950.00 via Western Union after our
mutual agreement (Western Union Trackin number: 8786552590 sending on 11th
July 2003) at below mentioned man and he has sent me a fictitious FedEx

and
UPS tracking number!

His name and address:

First name:Andy
Least name:Cheryl
Address:Via Postale Vecchia, 13/D
City:Luvinate (VA)
Zipp:21020
Country:Italy
His phone number :00393280499702

His e-mail:





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Old July 22nd 03, 04:16 PM
Mitchell Edelman
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Regarding Western Union -

I nearly got caught in one of these scams: I had arranged through ebay
to buy a Canon D60 at $1200 (this before the introduction of the 10D).
The seller was in Spain, and was asking for funds via WU. I went to their
site and filled out the transfer; the site required that I phone their
800 number to complete the transaction, which I did.
The operator asked me if I personally knew the recipient and informed me
that a large number of fraudulent transactions had originated there. She
recommended that I check out the sale very carefully before releasing the
funds, and that WU was not responsible for loss due to fraudulent
international sales.
I cancelled the transaction - no way to kno wif the person was on the
up-and-up, but ...

Cheers,

MJE

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Old August 3rd 03, 11:03 AM
Randy
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Thanks to whoever originated this warning...a lot! YOu saved me $1,200.
Thanks again. (*WHEW!!!!!*)

Todd wrote:
This is a classic scam. There have been numerous victims of this exact same
scam. Do not fall for it.

They almost always originate from Italy, Bulgaria, or Spain. The buyer
always gives a plausible reason why they're registered in the U.S. but wants
their money in Europe (we're on vacation, we had a sudden job transfer, I'm
here on business, etc).

Here are some tell tale signs of a fraudulent auction. If you see any of
these, first assume it's a fraud until you can verify otherwise:

If a "Buy it Now" price is less than 50% of retail. Right now, for example,
there are many auctions offering a Canon EOS 1Ds digital SLR camera for
$2000 or less. The camera retails for $7900. Big red flag.

A buyer who wants payment by Western Union. Sending money Western Union is
no better than wrapping cold hard cash in an envelope and mailing it to
someone. If you wouldn't do that, don't send money via WU. They'll
reassure you that you can send the money in a made up name so they can't
collect it until you change the recipient name, but this is a complete lie.
All the person needs is the MTCN (money transfer control number). Do not
fall for this.

Hundreds of Ebay users names have been hijacked and are now being used to
perpetrate fraud. These users have built up positive feedback in the
hundreds and even thousands. This works to reassure a buyer that they're
trustworthy. But look at the seller's history closely. If they've
typically bought and sold items that are low cost collectibles or video
games or nutritional products, for example, and are all of a sudden selling
high end stereos, plasma TVs, and digital cameras, that should be a big red
flag.

Don't trust any escrow service a seller recommends. Scammers have lulled so
many people into a sense of false security by making them think they're
using an escrow service when in actuality, the "escrow" service is merely a
slick looking website put up by the scammer themselves. You'll get an email
notifying you that the escrow service has received the product (which of
course they haven't) and you'll send the money. You've just been had.

If you receive an email purportedly from Ebay or Paypal asking you to
verify, confirm, re-authorize, etc. your user name and password, treat it as
if it's a scam, because it almost certainly is. Scam artists can easily
re-create a page that looks like it came from Ebay. All they have to do is
lift the logo graphics. If the email provides hyperlinks, don't trust the
link to take you where it says it will. What you see in the text of the
message may be completely different from how the hyperlink is coded.

If you inquire about an auction item and the seller offers to sell it to you
outside of the Ebay system, don't do it. It may be legitimate, but most
likely it's not.

If an Ebay seller has chosen to sell to "pre-approved bidders", be
skeptical. Scammers use the pre-approval process to thwart would be
vigilantes who in good conscience sabotage their auctions by bidding the
item up to a ridiculous price in order to ward off potential victims. By
making an auction for pre-approved bidders only, the scam seller can control
who gets to bid and can weed out the vigilantes. Almost all fraudulent
auctions for expensive electronics and cameras will be "pre-approved bidder"
auctions. Big red flag.

The biggest number of fraudulent auctions involve plasma TVs, digital
cameras, computers, and super premium stereo equipment. If you're looking
at Ebay auctions for these items and they have unbelievably low prices, it's
almost certainly a fraud. Assume that it is until proven otherwise.


"maark" wrote in message
...

WARNING!!! !!!

Below mentioned one is SHAM - PRETENDER:

Matter:

On eBay auction #2939545013 (didnīt exist now !) was offered a camera
FinePix S2 Pro (US$950.00). I payed US$ 950.00 via Western Union after our
mutual agreement (Western Union Trackin number: 8786552590 sending on 11th
July 2003) at below mentioned man and he has sent me a fictitious FedEx


and

UPS tracking number!

His name and address:

First name:Andy
Least name:Cheryl
Address:Via Postale Vecchia, 13/D
City:Luvinate (VA)
Zipp:21020
Country:Italy
His phone number :00393280499702

His e-mail:







 




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