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DAMN YOU, GOOGLE!
Steve wrote:
On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:46:50 -0500, Ron Hunter wrote: Blinky the Shark wrote: m II wrote: I've been forwarding all of the Chinese garbage to If everyone here and everywhere else started doing it, the idiots at Google may get the message. Wouldn't happen -- your complaints don't cut into their profits. I wouldn't mind if the stupid spam were restricted to Google Users, but the regular NNTP servers get the same garbage. This group is getting unusable and my filter isn't too easy to adapt. You *can't* filter them with TB. You can filter them this way: http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html Strange, I am filtering them with TB. Yes, I have to add something just about every day, but it DOES work. Having to add something just about every day isn't my definition of working *well*. Take a look at the link above. I've been using NewProxy for a weeks now and haven't had to add anything beyond the first day when I filtered Message-Id's containing googlegroups. No spam since. Steev Unfortunately, Googlegroups is NOT the only source of spam. I blocked that easily the first time it appeared. Currently, the incidence of spam from China is about to convince me to insist to my congress-critters, that they make it clear that 'cyber-war' is a sufficient cause to abrogate the 'most favored nation' trade status, with the penalties that implies. Google is just an irritation, the Chinese spam, and outright attacks from many sites, is far from 'just an irritation', it is an attack. |
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DAMN YOU, GOOGLE!
Bruce W. Ellis wrote:
On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 08:48:20 -0800, Blinky the Shark wrote: Steve wrote: On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:46:50 -0500, Ron Hunter wrote: Blinky the Shark wrote: m II wrote: I've been forwarding all of the Chinese garbage to If everyone here and everywhere else started doing it, the idiots at Google may get the message. Wouldn't happen -- your complaints don't cut into their profits. I wouldn't mind if the stupid spam were restricted to Google Users, but the regular NNTP servers get the same garbage. This group is getting unusable and my filter isn't too easy to adapt. You *can't* filter them with TB. You can filter them this way: http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html Strange, I am filtering them with TB. Yes, I have to add something just about every day, but it DOES work. Having to add something just about every day isn't my definition of working *well*. Take a look at the link above. I've been using NewProxy for a weeks now and haven't had to add anything beyond the first day when I filtered Message-Id's containing googlegroups. No spam since. Note that he's not really filtering on the Message-ID header. His TB will no more filter on that header than your Free Agent will; he'd need a solution like you're using -- a local server/proxy to pre-chew groups for his client. Since I started using NewsProxy, the spam has disappeared. Give it a try. Yes, and who has control of just WHAT is defined as spam? If YOU don't have control of it, then you don't know just what ELSE you might not be seeing, now do you? Thanks, but I will do my own driving.... |
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DAMN YOU, GOOGLE!
Blinky the Shark wrote:
Ron Hunter wrote: Blinky the Shark wrote: m II wrote: I've been forwarding all of the Chinese garbage to If everyone here and everywhere else started doing it, the idiots at Google may get the message. Wouldn't happen -- your complaints don't cut into their profits. I wouldn't mind if the stupid spam were restricted to Google Users, but the regular NNTP servers get the same garbage. This group is getting unusable and my filter isn't too easy to adapt. You *can't* filter them with TB. You can filter them this way: http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html Strange, I am filtering them with TB. Yes, I have to add something just about every day, but it DOES work. No, you're *not* filtering GG posts via the Message-ID header. TB cannot do that. You're using some other filtering, and that's *why* you have to keep tweaking it instead of just sitting back letting a true GG filter do its work. Even if you managed to plug in what *looks* like a Message-ID rule for TB, TB is ignoring it -- it will *not* actually filter on that header. One filter ended the Google groups spam. Perhaps you don't know how to use the filters in TB properly. I should mention that I have been using them since they first were included in the program, and have become quite good at defining them properly to get the result I want, limited though they are. |
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DAMN YOU, GOOGLE!
On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:27:29 -0500, Ron Hunter wrote: Steve wrote: On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:46:50 -0500, Ron Hunter wrote: Blinky the Shark wrote: m II wrote: I've been forwarding all of the Chinese garbage to If everyone here and everywhere else started doing it, the idiots at Google may get the message. Wouldn't happen -- your complaints don't cut into their profits. I wouldn't mind if the stupid spam were restricted to Google Users, but the regular NNTP servers get the same garbage. This group is getting unusable and my filter isn't too easy to adapt. You *can't* filter them with TB. You can filter them this way: http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html Strange, I am filtering them with TB. Yes, I have to add something just about every day, but it DOES work. Having to add something just about every day isn't my definition of working *well*. Take a look at the link above. I've been using NewProxy for a weeks now and haven't had to add anything beyond the first day when I filtered Message-Id's containing googlegroups. No spam since. Steev Unfortunately, Googlegroups is NOT the only source of spam. I blocked that easily the first time it appeared. Currently, the incidence of spam from China is about to convince me to insist to my congress-critters, that they make it clear that 'cyber-war' is a sufficient cause to abrogate the 'most favored nation' trade status, with the penalties that implies. Google is just an irritation, the Chinese spam, and outright attacks from many sites, is far from 'just an irritation', it is an attack. You should really try NewsProxy or something similar to filter by Message-ID. If you did that you'd see that googlegroups really is the only source of spam. I've not had a single China spam, or any other kind that I've noticed, in at least the past week. The only time I see it at all is when someone else responds to it and quotes the spam. Steve |
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DAMN YOU, GOOGLE!
Ron Hunter wrote:
Unfortunately, Googlegroups is NOT the only source of spam. I blocked that easily the first time it appeared. Currently, the incidence of spam from China[...] Google is just an irritation, the Chinese spam, and outright attacks from many sites, is far from 'just an irritation', it is an attack. I suggest you check where all that "chinese spam" actually originates from. You may be surprised that _VIRTUALLY ALL_ of it is posted via GoogleGroups. This is trivially proven by e.g. - the Message-ID suffix: - the Organization: http://groups.google.com - the User-Agent: G2/1.0 - the Path: .....postnews.google.com!e10g2000prf.googlegroups. com!not-for-mail and several other header fields. Yes, there are a few spammers who use other news providers. But their number is absolutely tiny compared to the flood coming from GoogleGroups. If you actually had blocked GoogleGroups, then you would see virtually no spam at all. In particular all the chinese garbage would be filtered out. I think instead you are probably filtering on "gmail" accounts in the From header. Those are easily faked. But more important they have nothing to do with GoogleGroups except that both services are run by the same company. It's like not buying Canon cameras because a Canon photocopier ate your term paper. jue |
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DAMN YOU, GOOGLE!
Ron Hunter wrote: Steve wrote: On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:46:50 -0500, Ron Hunter wrote: Blinky the Shark wrote: m II wrote: I've been forwarding all of the Chinese garbage to Now that is a big mistake. You need to forward all of the chinese garbage to the Olympic committee If everyone here and everywhere else started doing it, the idiots at Google may get the message. Wouldn't happen -- your complaints don't cut into their profits. I wouldn't mind if the stupid spam were restricted to Google Users, but the regular NNTP servers get the same garbage. This group is getting unusable and my filter isn't too easy to adapt. You *can't* filter them with TB. You can filter them this way: http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html Strange, I am filtering them with TB. Yes, I have to add something just about every day, but it DOES work. Having to add something just about every day isn't my definition of working *well*. Take a look at the link above. I've been using NewProxy for a weeks now and haven't had to add anything beyond the first day when I filtered Message-Id's containing googlegroups. No spam since. Steev Unfortunately, Googlegroups is NOT the only source of spam. I blocked that easily the first time it appeared. Currently, the incidence of spam from China is about to convince me to insist to my congress-critters, that they make it clear that 'cyber-war' is a sufficient cause to abrogate the 'most favored nation' trade status, with the penalties that implies. Google is just an irritation, the Chinese spam, and outright attacks from many sites, is far from 'just an irritation', it is an attack. |
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DAMN YOU, GOOGLE!
On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:34:55 GMT, Steve wrote: On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:46:50 -0500, Ron Hunter wrote: Blinky the Shark wrote: m II wrote: I've been forwarding all of the Chinese garbage to If everyone here and everywhere else started doing it, the idiots at Google may get the message. Wouldn't happen -- your complaints don't cut into their profits. I wouldn't mind if the stupid spam were restricted to Google Users, but the regular NNTP servers get the same garbage. This group is getting unusable and my filter isn't too easy to adapt. You *can't* filter them with TB. You can filter them this way: http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html Strange, I am filtering them with TB. Yes, I have to add something just about every day, but it DOES work. Having to add something just about every day isn't my definition of working *well*. Take a look at the link above. I've been using NewProxy for a weeks now and haven't had to add anything beyond the first day when I filtered Message-Id's containing googlegroups. No spam since. Steev Same here. NewsProxy is awesome! |
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DAMN YOU, GOOGLE!
In article y7ZIj.15245$pb5.1593@edtnps89, m II wrote:
I've been forwarding all of the Chinese garbage to If everyone here and everywhere else started doing it, the idiots at Google may get the message. I wouldn't mind if the stupid spam were restricted to Google Users, but the regular NNTP servers get the same garbage. This group is getting unusable and my filter isn't too easy to adapt. mike Google does not accept abuse complaints. None. It's years of that attitude that has lead to such spam floods. I just got switched from Supernews to Highwinds. I can no longer fetch headers for filtering Google spam and I can't convince Highwinds of the obvious need for a UDP. What a useless service. -- Google - The top provider of Usenet spam and criminal activity. Block Google and enjoy your Internet again. |
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DAMN YOU, GOOGLE!
Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
In article y7ZIj.15245$pb5.1593@edtnps89, m II wrote: I've been forwarding all of the Chinese garbage to If everyone here and everywhere else started doing it, the idiots at Google may get the message. I wouldn't mind if the stupid spam were restricted to Google Users, but the regular NNTP servers get the same garbage. This group is getting unusable and my filter isn't too easy to adapt. mike Google does not accept abuse complaints. None. It's years of that attitude that has lead to such spam floods. I just got switched from Supernews to Highwinds. I can no longer fetch headers for filtering Google spam and I can't convince Highwinds of the obvious need for a UDP. What a useless service. Whoa, hoss! All you need is Message-ID. That's part of the flippin' overview that filtering is first performed on. That's not to say that your *client* can filter on it; I don't know MT-NewsWatcher. Check in at news.software.readers for help with that. -- Blinky Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org Blinky: http://blinkynet.net |
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DAMN YOU, GOOGLE!
Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
In article y7ZIj.15245$pb5.1593@edtnps89, m II wrote: I've been forwarding all of the Chinese garbage to If everyone here and everywhere else started doing it, the idiots at Google may get the message. I wouldn't mind if the stupid spam were restricted to Google Users, but the regular NNTP servers get the same garbage. This group is getting unusable and my filter isn't too easy to adapt. mike Google does not accept abuse complaints. None. It's years of that attitude that has lead to such spam floods. I just got switched from Supernews to Highwinds. I can no longer fetch headers for filtering Google spam and I can't convince Highwinds of the obvious need for a UDP. What a useless service. Yes, my service provider also uses Highwinds, which I long ago decided was useless, not to mention dead slow. I pay for Giganews. Well worth the money. |
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